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Posted: 12 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: vaishali-AR



Thank you Samarth for that quick summary... SC in the novel honestly appears like a very weak character.. Being flawed is one thing and being weak is another.. Being weak will not allow a person to admit and correct his flaws.. SC of the novel seemed to be on mission to dedicate his life to the cause of the society, yet couldn't do anything to help Kumud get of her misery... What was this cause then that he was so devoted for? wasnt widow remarriage part of that cause? SC of the show seems more flawed that weak.. That gives me some hope in the future.. He is a man who would beat up anyone who looks at Kumud with disrespect ..we saw that... SC of the novel looks like he will sit on bhook hartal to stop eve teasing... 🤢

Vaishali, unfortunately, the whipped up patriotism of that time, had made contemporaries to applaud such weak character as 'strong of principles"🤢 'Sacrifice' was the flavour of the era. M.K.Gandhi had abundantly praised the novel. His fulsome applause is a flaunt on the back cover, till this date. I will put it here someday..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Well, if consummation is not part of the original novel , which I think is the case, and yet they have made it part of the script then we can expect some major deviations from the original storyline.. I want that deviation to happen only in the end not in between.. Marriage to Pramadhan and separation should and I think will happen as per the novel..
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Posted: 12 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: vaishali-AR

Well, if consummation is not part of the original novel , which I think is the case, and yet they have made it part of the script then we can expect some major deviations from the original storyline.. I want that deviation to happen only in the end not in between.. Marriage to Pramadhan and separation should and I think will happen as per the novel..



I agree Vaishali. And also this consummation article is not going to do any favour on the TRP, we have had a stabilised TRP for past 2 weeks but articles such as these wouldn't encourage Indian audience to continue with the show. And if it really happens it might be the ruin of the show as well.
We discuss about characters but viewers outside the forum, who watch it on TV may not think it on a character basis, for them SLB showed something which is a taboo in our society. Not sure why SLB would take such a huge plunge when he is already in a tight spot.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#64

Originally posted by: vaishali-AR

Well, if consummation is not part of the original novel , which I think is the case, and yet they have made it part of the script then we can expect some major deviations from the original storyline.. I want that deviation to happen only in the end not in between.. Marriage to Pramadhan and separation should and I think will happen as per the novel..

You are right Vaishali, but somehow its not that incongruent. Their deep love for each other, not only before break of the engagement, even after her marriage- though physically chaste, huge struggle for both to stay mentally apart- Kumud's extra struggle to stay faithful to her marriage in honesty- dissolution only because of Pramad's philandering disinterest in marriage- all these, does not make it so out of place...plus it confirms to the states they were mentioned in tr. many dialogues in original...and here, its going to work as much required 'assurance' I think.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Another late night...shubh ratri Ladies and Gentlemen.😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: kaadal



I agree Vaishali. And also this consummation article is not going to do any favour on the TRP, we have had a stabilised TRP for past 2 weeks but articles such as these wouldn't encourage Indian audience to continue with the show. And if it really happens it might be the ruin of the show as well.
We discuss about characters but viewers outside the forum, who watch it on TV may not think it on a character basis, for them SLB showed something which is a taboo in our society. Not sure why SLB would take such a huge plunge when he is already in a tight spot.



You know Kadaal , I feel the TRP audience really dont care too much about characterization.. they only devote the 20 minutes on the show while watching.. No one sits and analyses characters and storyline like the internet audience does.. The movie Panineeta also showed something on similar lines and no one thought it was a social taboo.. It all depends on how they show the circumstances that lead to this scenario.. that should be convincing and logical.. the scene itself is only catching eyeballs because of the term ''premarital sex'' Honestly I am more interested in the situation that leads to it and the aftermath of the whole thing on the future of the love story.. more than the scene itself..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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hmmm...

I am not taking a moral stand against the event...just struggling to fit the pieces together basis the character development so far (at least regarding kumud) and the context against which this may happen...

however, let me give it a shot...
from last comments from vaishali,smrth and kaadal..

- in the novel, the letter of rejection happens after they declare their love and later saras spends the rest of his life nursing a major guilt trip regarding his action...which causes his 'growth' and lifelong 'obligation' to make up for it to kumud.
- kumud's 'stigma' which forces VC hand to get her married in the novel is the engagement break-off.

- makers are definitely trying to turn out the saras character more as flawed than weak.
- therefore the logic of his overarching desire to do good for society for which he leaves behind everything does not stand / will not work.
- nor does the 'stigma' of an engagement break-off in current times.
- BUT public knowledge of her having premarital sex followed by an engagement break-off is a ;stigma' of sufficient magnitude, which may force VC to get her married off to a character like Pramad.
- then what will cause his life-long guilt trip over a hurt to kumud basis his action after a seperation and which will drive him till the end?

- it could be a combo of the premarital consumation followed by an impulsive seperation (caused by guman), resulting in kumud all alone for sometime, probably publicly or at least in family 'shamed' (can't think of any other word here) resulting in a quick marriage ...and we are back to the original track..

so maybe there's a reason why this fits...

however the CVs have continued to surprise..

so lets see how this goes..




Edited by hotdogg - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#68

Originally posted by: vaishali-AR



You know Kadaal , I feel the TRP audience really dont care too much about characterization.. they only devote the 20 minutes on the show while watching.. No one sits and analyses characters and storyline like the internet audience does.. The movie Panineeta also showed something on similar lines and no one thought it was a social taboo.. It all depends on how they show the circumstances that lead to this scenario.. that should be convincing and logical.. the scene itself is only catching eyeballs because of the term ''premarital sex'' Honestly I am more interested in the situation that leads to it and the aftermath of the whole thing on the future of the love story.. more than the scene itself..


Yeah the normal viewers don't think about characters, for them it is a show and as long as the plots are gripping they will watch.. But it depends on how it is shown. Just was telling hotdogg the same, if circumstance leads to it they will go forward with it but if they go forward I am curious to see how SLB takes it from here. It would look like a page out of an old book if this is done only to create a rift between father and daughter as VC is going to be shattered. I am expecting much more from SLB, but will see how it goes.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#69

Originally posted by: hotdogg

hmmm...

I am not taking a moral stand against the event...just struggling to fit the pieces together basis the character development so far (at least regarding kumud) and the context against which this may happen...

however, let me give it a shot...
from last comments from vaishali,smrth and kaadal..

- in the novel, the letter of rejection happens after they declare their love and later saras spends the rest of his life nursing a major guilt trip regarding his action...which causes his 'growth' and lifelong 'obligation' to make up for it to kumud.
- kumud's 'stigma' which forces VC hand to get her married in the novel is the engagement break-off.

- makers are definitely trying to turn out the saras character more as flawed than weak.
- therefore the logic of his overarching desire to do good for society for which he leaves behind everything does not stand / will not work.
- nor does the 'stigma' of an engagement break-off in current times.
- BUT public knowledge of her having premarital sex followed by an engagement break-off is a ;stigma' of sufficient magnitude, which may force VC to get her married off to a character like Pramad.
- then what will cause his life-long guilt trip over a hurt to kumud basis his action after a seperation and which will drive him till the end?

- it could be a combo of the premarital consumation followed by an impulsive seperation (caused by guman), resulting in kumud all alone for sometime, probably publicly or at least in family 'shamed' (can't think of any other word here) resulting in a quick marriage ...and we are back to the original track..

so maybe there's a reason why this fits...

however the CVs have continued to surprise..

so lets see how this goes..





That makes sense hotdogg and if SLB is trying to stay true to the novel, this consummation is a big stigma which might push VC to marry her off to that character. Saras character is indeed flawed then, if beyond repair will see how it goes but this might work. Hopefully everyone eats their mind as we in this forum do and SC will be no.1 soon :)
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Posted: 12 years ago
#70
One last thing...😆
Are Cvs rather preparing the audience for 'it' with this virtual marriage??

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