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I liked the romance in yesterday's episode and did go gaga over it for the while it was shown. But honestly, in context of the story it is becoming monotonous and odd. How come a man who had been into spirituality, who had no inclination towards parties or girls and who was giving lectures on virtues of celibacy, suddenly act so attracted and give those lovey-dovey looks to a girl? His main reason for coming to Ratnagiri was Kumud's challenge and the reason for that was his refusal to marry her. The root cause of this track lay in his leanings towards celibacy and utter lack of interest in marriage.

So isn't this romance an overdose in this context?

It would have been acceptable if Saras was shown to be curious about Kumud (that he was initially). But his romance and his being all heart for Kumud post the "mooh dikhayi" scene has been excessive and rather hard to digest for a man that he was shown to be initially.

They have not even shown Saras feeling reluctant, self conscious or at least fighting with himself or questioning himself as to why he's getting so attracted towards Kumud - at least an inner conflict between his attraction desires and his vows of celibacy should have been shown, or perhaps a confusion in his mind!

But no! He feels Kumud's presence and closes his eyes in filmy style to turn his head and look towards her, then that hair romance or dreaming of her or smiling at her etc. in total filmi lovebird style! 😕

It seems they are too eager to get viewership! Sorry but this dragging and sudden overdose of romance doesn't seem right.

Also, did everyone forget maryada and culture now? How come Kumud's come at night time, all alone, to help Saras make pots? Not even any sibling or elderly accompanied her.

Where the hell is Yash? And how long will this gau-hatya and false allegation track last? If Kumud's forever into arguing with family or villagers over Saras or visiting Saras then when and how will she unravel the truth and bring actual wrong-doer out in open?

This is dangerously bordering on becoming yet another, been-there-done-that kinda stupid, dragging saas-bahu-lovers soap! Not the right sign for a show that showed so much promise initially.

To me it makes perfect sense that Saras is attracted towards KUMUD! She is just as deep and spiritual as him!

Originally posted by: Nkapoor3

To me it makes perfect sense that Saras is attracted towards KUMUD! She is just as deep and spiritual as him!

Kumud is not as spiritual as Saras (as he was initially shown to be). She is spiritual in a regular way. Saras' brand of spirituality was more rigid, strict, spartan, like that of a yogi - this is why he'd do those pujas, keep fasts and had considered celibacy.

So I did not expect Saras to give in or melt to baser human desires so quickly. I don't object to attraction. My issues are with its suddenness without even a dint of confusion or inner conflict or self introspection in Saras.

Originally posted by: Skepblun

Kumud is not as spiritual as Saras (as he was initially shown to be). She is spiritual in a regular way. Saras' brand of spirituality was more rigid, strict, spartan, like that of a yogi - this is why he'd do those pujas, keep fasts and had considered celibacy.

So I did not expect Saras to give in or melt to baser human desires so quickly. I don't object to attraction. My issues are with its suddenness without even a dint of confusion or inner conflict or self introspection in Saras.

@Nkapoor3

I wasn't talking of religion or customs. Customs and rituals are different thing. I was talking about Saras' spirtualism as shown in the serial initially - which was rigid, had self restraint, self-control and a sense of detachment from worldly/earthly or more basic human behaviours (such as sexual desire) along with a disposition to learn about his culture and religion's principles (not rites but doctrines as contained in scholarly texts).

I said that the kind of spirituality and strong beliefs and a typical lifestyle he followed, his attraction and romance with Kumud seems too sudden - at least he should have been shown to battle with himself and his beliefs, have some inner conflict due to his own set belief system and that tug of more baser human desire. A sense of, "Hey! What's this happening to me? Why am I behaving like this? This is not what I thought I wanted to be! This is being so unlike the path I thought I practise!"

Saras just abruptly went into romance mode! The transition should've been smoother, laced with his self introspection and later giving in to that force called love. There was no "Yeh mujhe kya hua?", which ought to have been there given that his refusal to marry due to his vow of celibacy was the main reason for the start of this drama at Ratnanagri with Kumud's family.

The root cause of all the drama did not even figure anywhere later and didn't even cause any inner conflict in Saras? That's what befuddles me.

I agree with you Skepblun, I'm disappointed with how abrupt all of this is too.

Originally posted by: Skepblun

@Nkapoor3

I wasn't talking of religion or customs. Customs and rituals are different thing. I was talking about Saras' spirtualism as shown in the serial initially - which was rigid, had self restraint, self-control and a sense of detachment from worldly/earthly or more basic human behaviours (such as sexual desire) along with a disposition to learn about his culture and religion's principles (not rites but doctrines as contained in scholarly texts).

I said that the kind of spirituality and strong beliefs and a typical lifestyle he followed, his attraction and romance with Kumud seems too sudden - at least he should have been shown to battle with himself and his beliefs, have some inner conflict due to his own set belief system and that tug of more baser human desire. A sense of, "Hey! What's this happening to me? Why am I behaving like this? This is not what I thought I wanted to be! This is being so unlike the path I thought I practise!"

Saras just abruptly went into romance mode! The transition should've been smoother, laced with his self introspection and later giving in to that force called love. There was no "Yeh mujhe kya hua?", which ought to have been there given that his refusal to marry due to his vow of celibacy was the main reason for the start of this drama at Ratnanagri with Kumud's family.

The root cause of all the drama did not even figure anywhere later and didn't even cause any inner conflict in Saras? That's what befuddles me.

@NKapoor3

Maybe I have failed in explaining my POV clearly or perhaps you don't want to understand what I am trying to say and just respond seeing one or two lines.

I know Saras is not a sanyasi. But he was not like other typical heterosexual men of his age either and was at least tending towards that spartan path of a sanyasi. That was his goal and the path he had intended to take as shown in the show initially. I said it is normal for him to give in and get attracted (our basic desires aren't in our control and we don't realise when they take over us).

I said it was fine to show him curious or getting attracted but the increase in attraction or getting closer should've been accompanied by some inner conflict, hesitation, confusion and self introspection given his earlier intended goal. That was not there and this romance and lovey dovey gaze seemed abrupt to me.

If he could get into such a bawaal (with Kumud) due to his celibacy plans (marriage refusal) and forever had conflicts with his dad over this, it shows how strongly he was inclined towards this and what a strong belief system he had devised for himelf. This thing did play a dominant role in his personality and lifestyle. So how come this doesn't interfere now - in a sense that it at least causes an inner conflict in Saras (doesn't mean it should stop him from coming close).

I hope I've made myself clear over this.

Anyway, I saw your post in another thread wherein you said that you want more intense SaMud romance, so I see where your responses to my POV are coming from and I think we'd probably not be able to agree over this issue.

I wrote my POV in context of the story as a whole not just SaMud.

Originally posted by: Skepblun

@NKapoor3

Maybe I have failed in explaining my POV clearly or perhaps you don't want to understand what I am trying to say and just respond seeing one or two lines.

I know Saras is not a sanyasi. But he was not like other typical heterosexual men of his age either and was at least tending towards that spartan path of a sanyasi. That was his goal and the path he had intended to take as shown in the show initially. I said it is normal for him to give in and get attracted (our basic desires aren't in our control and we don't realise when they take over us).

I said it was fine to show him curious or getting attracted but the increase in attraction or getting closer should've been accompanied by some inner conflict, hesitation, confusion and self introspection given his earlier intended goal. That was not there and this romance and lovey dovey gaze seemed abrupt to me.

If he could get into such a bawaal (with Kumud) due to his celibacy plans (marriage refusal) and forever had conflicts with his dad over this, it shows how strongly he was inclined towards this and what a strong belief system he had devised for himelf. This thing did play a dominant role in his personality and lifestyle. So how come this doesn't interfere now - in a sense that it at least causes an inner conflict in Saras (doesn't mean it should stop him from coming close).

I hope I've made myself clear over this.

Anyway, I saw your post in another thread wherein you said that you want more intense SaMud romance, so I see where your responses to my POV are coming from and I think we'd probably not be able to agree over this issue.

I wrote my POV in context of the story as a whole not just SaMud.

I agree he wasn't typical! But so is not KUMUD! her nature and beliefs are quite similar to Saras! Hence I don't find the attraction rapid! This guy has always craved for love and can see this girl has this in abundance! He can see that he has a major impact on her! Hence I don't find the attraction rapid! Anyway lets agree to disagree! I personally feel his sanyasi stuff was to guard off all emotional contact! I don't think becoming a non sanyasi will go against his morals! I think we have interpreted the character of SARASWATICHANDRA differently!

I agree that all the things he was attempting were probably a way to avoid emotional connections. But I didn't object to rapid attraction due to any morality issues! I just said that if the belief system was so strongly etched and interfered in every aspect of his life, then the attraction process should have been a bit slower due to that thing sort of creating a mental hurdle for him. That is all.

Kumud is not exactly like him. She is like him in several ways. But not *exactly* like him. She hadn't set so many mental barriers on herself the way Saras had. She is more "normal" and into the world, she had dreams of her sapno ka rajkumar also, unlike Saras who was forever escaping from the world and building a shell around him.

I expected Saras to get to romance part a bit later and slowly. I find it abrupt that his shell and all so called self restraint he'd been imposing on himself is melting/cracking/breaking down/giving away so soon.

Okay, let it break down even. But why not make his change of heart more understandable by at least showing some hesitation or "Yeh mujhe kya ho raha hai" type introspection? I don't find his transition smooth. It's too abrupt for me. That's all.

It was not about morality. Just that nobody changes so rapidly or even if one changes, it's a gradual process and it doesn't come across outwardly so soon.

Anyway, thanks for discussing in a healthy manner. I agree, on some points, we have to agree to disagree.