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gilmores

@gilmores

Stunner

+ 8

Posted: 15 years ago

#21

Originally posted by: Omshanti1111

thats what was shown before

Then can Inder just give the property to Karan without Vasu's signatures?

Lols I don't know too much about property/inheritance laws...

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Bani

@Omshanti1111

Inactive

Posted: 15 years ago

#22

Originally posted by: chocolover89

Then can Inder just give the property to Karan without Vasu's signatures?

Lols I don't know too much about property/inheritance laws...

if Inderjeet has started the business and is the founder, he by his will can give to anyone...but if Inderjeet has inherited it by ancestry, then all the property should be equally distributed to all his children.
similarly, Dadaji was the owner of the property, he could have given this property to anyone...like it was shown that it gave the property to Alekh...I dont think CTs will dwell so much deep and thus eventually might make a mockery of their creativity...

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Pallavi

@-Pallavi-

Voyager

Posted: 15 years ago

#23

Originally posted by: Omshanti1111
Many of us are not happy with the present track, because we all want to relax by seeing something entertaining after a hard day's work. When I was couple of years younger, I too used to feel the samea about these sorts of tracks...whatever is shown in the shows, is so real and good to feel...that life is only full of roses, and we would like to see it without the thorns,,..life is all about romance and singing dancing, hugging, kissing and nothing more than that...Alas! if life was only that////

Bidaai has shown all these light moments very nicely...be it one couple or the other, there had been romantic moments or light moments and all have enjoyed...

my question is why is this track so bad...

1. it is because it is based on the life of a father figure..Inderjeet and not the young people.

2. Is it because it is unreal?..is it really unreal?

3. or is it because it is not meeting the expectation of seeing romance in every episode....

I feel this track has really the potential to develop into something very interesting. People like Karan are still born as illegitimate child or else there would not be so many orphanages and so many people lying as orphans in hospitals...Crisis can strike a family in any way or form...but a true human needs to hold his head high and look beyond to see how to solve that problem...

its so easy for everyone to leave Inderjeet and now that Karan has all the property, he can do anything...but is the Rajvansh property only Inderjeet's? everyone bears the Rajvansh name..is it not t? everyone has some responsibility towards the Rajvansh clan, just not to Inderjeet.///even if Inderjeet is at fault, I feel Alekh-Ranveer should work together to get hold of the Rajvansh clan again...its their moral responsibility to save the Rajvansh clan, in some way or the other...

Well said, Bani. Serials need to show all aspects of life.

But, I dont (rather didnt) like this track mainly because the way extra-marital stuff are shown on TV. Though it is a reality, Ekta's serials have made this extra-marital stuff into horror movies 😆 I am really sick of the way it is shown in serials. Hero becomes gayab and spends one night with other woman, or hero drinks and gets confused between wife and other woman, hero is frustrated about his life's problems and spends night with other woman.....And all of a sudden, a beta/beti tapaks into their life.... Isnt it too much for the viewers to handle? The serials show that to find solace in other, a man just spends one night with another. Then why they dont show this for a woman?

May be in Indu's case it is different. Hopefully CTs show how Indu, being a weak person, couldnt adjust with egoist Vasu. And why & how Vasu takes advantage of everyone's majboori, be it Ambika's insecurity's majboori, be it Indu's weakness or be it Sadhna's majboori.... How each one acted differently, and such comparsions would be worth watching..

Viewers would definately like to see the comparison between Vasu-Indu with Sadhna-Alekh and Ranvir-Ragini. The way one spouse becomes the other's strength in latter couples is an example for Vasu-Indu and inturn conveys a proper message (these days I am behind message 😆).

Edited by reguser - 15 years ago

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Purehearts

@Purehearts

Inactive

Posted: 15 years ago

#24

Originally posted by: reguser

Well said, Bani. Serials need to show all aspects of life.

But, I dont (rather didnt) like this track mainly because of extra-marital stuff. Though it is a reality, Ekta's serials have made this extra-marital stuff into horror movies 😆 I am really sick of the way it is shown in serials. Hero becomes gayab and spends one night with other woman, or hero drinks and gets confused between wife and other woman, hero is frustrated about his life's problems and spends night with other woman.....And all of a sudden, a beta/beti tapaks into their life.... Isnt it too much for the viewers to handle? The serials show that to find solace in other, a man just spends one night with another. Then why they dont show this for a woman?

May be in Indu's case it is different. Hopefully CTs show how Indu, being a weak person, couldnt adjust with egoist Vasu. And why & how Vasu takes advantage of everyone's majboori, be it Ambika's insecurity's majboori, be it Indu's weakness or be it Sadhna's majboori.... How each one acted in each case and the comparsion would be nice to watch.

As I have already mentioned earlier in a different post, I would definately like to see the comparison between Vasu-Indu with Sadhna-Alekh and Ranvir-Ragini. The way one spouse becomes the other's strength in latter couples is an example for Vasu-Indu.

@highlighted,even if it is one night stand it ens up in a illegitimate child most of the time .
Even a husband like Mihir has one night stands.
I know it is human to err but in these serials it is so common even a man with good character errs.I guess this is what makes these track boring.
And on top of it I just could not bear the helplessness that was created in Rajvansh parivaar because of this.
How everything looked so fragile with one illegitimate kid and how the kid ended up holding every rein in his hand.
Really can any person walk into to the house with knowing one's past/ wrong doings and claim the right to be the son and even bedroom.
Give me a break!

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Suchi-

@Suchi-

Sparkler

+ 3

Posted: 15 years ago

#25

I am still not really back with bidaai due to this track. This is not something I wanted to see, and its hard for me to digest really.

But.. after saying that;

Karan: Well, he wants to take revenge against the whole clan due to what he probably had to go through. HE probably was called a prostitute's son, cause his mother didn't have a husband. So he wants to bring that 'emotion' into the family by framing sagini.

He probably was called Hara** and other names and he wants to vent that anger out onto his brothers, who had proper and secure lives.

He naturally wants to make inderjeet's life miserable cause he thinks that indu ruined his life. By not acknowledging kusum and karan.

So I don't really blame karan, he is just lashing out and most likely it's going to be our sagini who are going to make him realize that he is part of this family and is welcome.

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About Vasu: well... she will kind of realize what she did to indu and this was a backlash cause of her behavior. I mean we are seeing good vasu for only few weeks but before that remember that vasu that could stoop to any level to just get what she wants. So if she is going to feel cheated I kind of blame her too. Though cheating is never a solution to get away from 'tension' and 'marital issues' I mean if vasu would have done this it would have been the end of rajvansh izzat.
So yes Indu is more responsible but I hope vasu also dosen't totally gets over the board angry with him. And accepts karan. this is ofcourse hard and easier to say than done.

But for some reason I am thinking, Kusum is not really telling the truth and karan is not what he seems to be. I could be terribly wrong.

I mean , if a woman had a son, then why not approach the father. I mean if she really loved Indu sooo much that she didn't want to ruin his izzat then she would have hid his name, or told good things about him and made it clear to him that she doesn't want to interfere in his life.

But then again, the child has to go through a lot so he probably couldn't see past his anger

Edited by suchitra_1 - 15 years ago

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hereandhappy

@hereandhappy

Explorer

Posted: 15 years ago

#26

IMO...after Ragvir HM,this is one of the better track in Bidaai,It may not be very interesting as we all have seen it in many other serilas but this track is very real and best part about it is NO One is on wrong side in this track . We will see many types of human behaviour how they will react in same situation .

I liked Ranvir and Aalekh's reaction as well as i can also see reasons of why Karan is doing this( I mean i cannot blame him) ...he is deprived of everything which he deserve just like Aalekh and Ranvir and so he is bound to be like that ,Injustice was done with him and so his reaction is completely justified ...i hope everything is presented in a good way

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yanks28

@yanks28

Achiever

+ 2

Posted: 15 years ago

#27

This track does have major potential. If it can be dealt with the beauty, love, and care that tracks such as the Anmol/Anamika...Shlok track...and so on were dealt with...then that would be great. Either way, I'll be watching.

I do wonder though...why it seems every affair results in a child...I understand if Indu went into the arms of another woman...but did he HAVE to get that intimate with her? He didn't consider the consequences at all? Also, he was MARRIED to Vasu for one year prior to this...so there was a very reasonable chance that Vasu might also have been expecting...so how could Indu risk it with Kusum then? With the way timing is being portrayed in this instance...it seems Vasu was probably already expecting when Indu and Kusum met...most likely in the early stages of her pregnancy...or that it happened right after Indu left Kusum...

I understand if he falls in love with another woman, and she falls in love with him...but this Kusum must also have been of very weak character...if she had an intimate physical relationship to a man she wasn't married to...and I wish Indu had the mind to hold back...and not go to THAT extent...but obviously he didn't...

I agree with all those that think there is still more to this story than meets the eye...Karan still seems a little fishy...

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yanks28

@yanks28

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Posted: 15 years ago

#28

@ Purehearts....does Karan have a criminal record we don't know about? Because you're right...Indu did nothing..he looked terrified....it's not like he was alone...he was surrounded by family...Alekh was standing by his side...but Indu looked like he was about to wet his pants..."Just leave me alone!" kind of thing...

Is it Vasu who scares him, or Karan?

Karan has been wronged and it probably hardened him...but he still needs to realize that these people are his family, whether he likes it or not...he'll have to soften up...he's treating Alekh like $&*! and Alekh is his BROTHER...same goes for Ranvir...eww....ok...wow I finally said it....yeah, Karan, Ranvir, and Alekh...are brother...🤢 And those women he was trying to defame...are like his sisters...do you want your sister to be known as a prostitute?

I feel bad for Ranvir...he just looks shattered...I feel bad for Alekh...how in the world will he bring everyone together...Vasu...who will EXPLODE...Indu who's scared to death and still has no backbone...and his brother...who is not in a good state right now...bring all of them together with his *new* brother...older brother?

I need some antacids...🥺

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Bani

@Omshanti1111

Inactive

Posted: 15 years ago

#29

this track is full of potential, just like the rift track...Human nature and character are the most unpredictable in this world...we never could think that Ragini could utter that "Sadhna was jealous of her"..its not unrealistic in the part of Ragini, when a person is in pain, he/she cannot see anyone other than himself/herself, its a human emotion...not all persons are like Sadhna...but as soon as Ragini came back to her senses, she knew that she was wrong and she did everything possible to rectify her mistake...

Similarly, Indu also made a mistake, when he was unable to bear the pain of his strained relationship with Vasu, only difference here is since it was a man-woman relationship, Karan was born...

In Sadhna-Ragini strained relationship, there were lots of mud throwing, but there was no scope for a child to be born, though that was also a grave mistake to throw out a bahu by dragging her through the stairs and then abusing her that "she was jealous that she was not able to become a mother", ficing her husband's marriage to another lady.....

Infidelity does not necessarily need to be linked with man-woman relationship only...infidelity can be used for other relationships...
Indu is not a compulsive flirt or a characterless person...he was sick and tired of his relationship with a lady who had no love in her,she had ego and arrogance...his fault is he never tried to find out how Kusum felt or how Kusum was after he left her

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Bani

@Omshanti1111

Inactive

Posted: 15 years ago

#30

Originally posted by: yanks28
This track does have major potential. If it can be dealt with the beauty, love, and care that tracks such as the Anmol/Anamika...Shlok track...and so on were dealt with...then that would be great. Either way, I'll be watching.

I do wonder though...why it seems every affair results in a child...I understand if Indu went into the arms of another woman...but did he HAVE to get that intimate with her? He didn't consider the consequences at all? Also, he was MARRIED to Vasu for one year prior to this...so there was a very reasonable chance that Vasu might also have been expecting...so how could Indu risk it with Kusum then? With the way timing is being portrayed in this instance...it seems Vasu was probably already expecting when Indu and Kusum met...most likely in the early stages of her pregnancy...or that it happened right after Indu left Kusum...

I understand if he falls in love with another woman, and she falls in love with him...but this Kusum must also have been of very weak character...if she had an intimate physical relationship to a man she wasn't married to...and I wish Indu had the mind to hold back...and not go to THAT extent...but obviously he didn't...

I agree with all those that think there is still more to this story than meets the eye...Karan still seems a little fishy...

Karan may be fishy or he may not be the son...but that does not nullify Inder's involvement with Kusum and why Inder fell for Kusum..because he could not sope up with Vasu's temper and arrogance

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