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Posted: 15 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: Omshanti1111

I never said "eavesdropping is bad"...what I want to say, with some characters, certain things cannot just match...Vasu and Sadhna are characters, who never have been sketched by creatives to eavesdrop...because they are very strong personalities and who believe more on their gut feelings than what others say. They dont need evidences from other persons to love or hate a person. They act as per their basic character...

You r so right. Vasu and Sadhna always make their own judgements. They believe what their heart says. Vasu herself realized Sadi's worth and not by anybody's words.
Edited by reguser - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Omshanti1111

Being the character Sdahna is from the beginning, only she is a character who can forgive the mistakes of everyone, be it Naveen, Avni, Mamiji, Ragini, Alekh , Vasu, Kaushi...all of them in some way or the other had been the cause of pain and breaking the family. This "forgiving" nature can be found only in selected people.

Sadhna's forgiving Naveen-Avni is questioned, did she not forgive Vasu? did she not forgive Ragini, Kaushi?...Naveen and Avni throughout has been dumb planners. Naveen fell on Sadhna;s feet in public and its humanity that she forgave them, but gave them a warning too. She shared with Ragini and confirmed Rgaini's thoughts that they indeed could be notorious. That gave Ragini also the confidence how evil some people can be.

with a character like Sadhna, eavesdropping, revenge etc do not fit in, rather forgiveness, love matter. and I am happy that CTs kept Sadhna's character straight. Because whatever judgements she passes, she believes in herself. She does not need to eavesdrop or plan, as this does not go with her basic character

Her love and ever forgiving nature is equal for everyone, be it
a sinner like Naveen, Avni or some one who caused her so much pain, like Vasu, Kaushi etc...

Bani,I agree with you that Sadhana's character was potrayed as such right from the begining as someone who can forgive easily and taking revenge is not part of her character .
the only thing i disagree is @Bold : does that mean people who eavesdrop or take revenge with someone who did wrong with you do not value love or they do not understand what forgiveness means ?
Edited by hereandhappy - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Purehearts


Sadhana is sketched to be a sacrificing and forgiving person, which is probably very pure character in today's world.If we remember every parent , every religion preaches Forgiveness.
It is very common in today's world , esp., new genre to revolt it, taking revenge ,resulting in bad consequences in broader sense wars and terror attacks.
I like Ragini for taking action and stopping it, coz' if my sister would be poisoned , all I would do is stop it.If I would be aggressive after that or not would be different.
On the other hand Sadhana could have been aggressive then.Some people even blame her as illogical then.I would say that is a big accusation.She was logical by forgiving which is what a person does for the first time.But if she forgave Naveen over and over again, I will join you guys and call her wrong.
Ragini is right at circumstance and Sadhana right at hers circumstance !!
Rajanji probably wanted to give Ragini this track ,coz' I guess lot of us were upset here that Parul did not get "the Mahan "role.
Again this is what we got because of that.
Parul is very talented and according to me even this track is not doing any justice for her presence, even for KINSHUK.

I really don't understand why Sadhna fans assume that Ragini fans get upset because Ragini is not "mahan" or a "devi" or "angel" because Ragini fans get upset at Ragini's lack of an actual role. As soon as Ragini got married, all she did was stand in the background like a piece of furniture or nod her head at what Ranvir said or cry. She hardly ever had any dialogues at all, forget role in anything, yet she was called a lead😕 This went on for atleast 6-8 months, even through the mystery track where she was missing for all of it except the unveiling. Now I know Parul got the chicken pox, but she was shooting for atleast 1 month before she returned to RV house. Also, I clearly remember RS said Parul got sick at the right time because Sadhna-Ranvir are the focus of the current track. So she wasn't even supposed to have a role in the mystery track anyways. After that, DB entered and the infamous rift track happened--Ragini finally got something to do--and the CT + RS made a complete character annihilation of Ragini's character causing everyone to hate her and bash her to the worst degrees (she should be beaten up to a pulp against the wall by Ranvir is just one).
Ragini finally got a chance because even RS knows he has to a LOT of damage control to do from the atrocious rift track in regards to Ragini's character. Also, he knows that he can't mollify Ragini fans anymore with "have patience, and Ragini is a strong character" because the latter is a downright lie unless strong means something complete different that is not in my dictionary.
Honestly I don't care if Ragini is mahan or not. All I care is if she has a worthy role to play in the show. And since she got married, she has FINALLY gotten something to do. I have always felt that Ragini is real and easier to relate to( except for rift until a certain point) while Sadhna is ideal. And I always prefer reality to idealness. I'm probably going to get atatcked for this but Ragini is emotional + practical, while Sadhna is mostly (98+%) emotional.
As for Sadhna's decision to forgive Naveen-Avni being illogical, well in a way it was. She forgave the people who tried to KILL her husband and were unsuccessful resulting in her beloved jiji's husband's jail for months and indirectly her beloved jiji's miscarriage. There are just some people in this world who shouldn't be forgiven. Sadhna should have told Ranvir about them after he came out. BUT because Sadhna did not, Ragini after 1 whole year got something to do, so I am not complaining. 😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: chocolover89

I really don't understand why Sadhna fans assume that Ragini fans get upset because Ragini is not "mahan" or a "devi" or "angel" because Ragini fans get upset at Ragini's lack of an actual role. As soon as Ragini got married, all she did was stand in the background like a piece of furniture or nod her head at what Ranvir said or cry. She hardly ever had any dialogues at all, forget role in anything, yet she was called a lead😕 This went on for atleast 6-8 months, even through the mystery track where she was missing for all of it except the unveiling. Now I know Parul got the chicken pox, but she was shooting for atleast 1 month before she returned to RV house. Also, I clearly remember RS said Parul got sick at the right time because Sadhna-Ranvir are the focus of the current track. So she wasn't even supposed to have a role in the mystery track anyways. After that, DB entered and the infamous rift track happened--Ragini finally got something to do--and the CT + RS made a complete character annihilation of Ragini's character causing everyone to hate her and bash her to the worst degrees (she should be beaten up to a pulp against the wall by Ranvir is just one).
Ragini finally got a chance because even RS knows he has to a LOT of damage control to do from the atrocious rift track in regards to Ragini's character. Also, he knows that he can't mollify Ragini fans anymore with "have patience, and Ragini is a strong character" because the latter is a downright lie unless strong means something complete different that is not in my dictionary.
Honestly I don't care if Ragini is mahan or not. All I care is if she has a worthy role to play in the show. And since she got married, she has FINALLY gotten something to do. I have always felt that Ragini is real and easier to relate to( except for rift until a certain point) while Sadhna is ideal. And I always prefer reality to idealness. I'm probably going to get atatcked for this but Ragini is emotional + practical, while Sadhna is mostly (98+%) emotional.
As for Sadhna's decision to forgive Naveen-Avni being illogical, well in a way it was. She forgave the people who tried to KILL her husband and were unsuccessful resulting in her beloved jiji's husband's jail for months and indirectly her beloved jiji's miscarriage. There are just some people in this world who shouldn't be forgiven. Sadhna should have told Ranvir about them after he came out. BUT because Sadhna did not, Ragini after 1 whole year got something to do, so I am not complaining. 😆

Very well said 👏
as a Ragini fan we just want her to be same as she was before her marriage ,at least her presence is known not that standing in background ,serving tea,making food for Ranvir and just listening ...
@Bold : this was the best quality of Ragini ,which was totally ruined by CT's
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Exactly! I don't want Ragini to be mahan at all. In fact I could care less if she is mahan. Being mahan is not the basis for liking a charcater. If it was, then we should dislkiek everyone but the main female protagonist and to some extent the male protagonist. I just want Ragini to make strong, positive (which is NOT mahan) contributions to the ongoing track not food and tears.
And yes the the CT ruined that characteristic but they seem to be trying to make things better. The thing is that they have a LONG way to go. I hope they realize it..
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: chocolover89

I really don't understand why Sadhna fans assume that Ragini fans get upset because Ragini is not "mahan" or a "devi" or "angel" because Ragini fans get upset at Ragini's lack of an actual role. As soon as Ragini got married, all she did was stand in the background like a piece of furniture or nod her head at what Ranvir said or cry. She hardly ever had any dialogues at all, forget role in anything, yet she was called a lead😕 This went on for atleast 6-8 months, even through the mystery track where she was missing for all of it except the unveiling. Now I know Parul got the chicken pox, but she was shooting for atleast 1 month before she returned to RV house. Also, I clearly remember RS said Parul got sick at the right time because Sadhna-Ranvir are the focus of the current track. So she wasn't even supposed to have a role in the mystery track anyways. After that, DB entered and the infamous rift track happened--Ragini finally got something to do--and the CT + RS made a complete character annihilation of Ragini's character causing everyone to hate her and bash her to the worst degrees (she should be beaten up to a pulp against the wall by Ranvir is just one).
Ragini finally got a chance because even RS knows he has to a LOT of damage control to do from the atrocious rift track in regards to Ragini's character. Also, he knows that he can't mollify Ragini fans anymore with "have patience, and Ragini is a strong character" because the latter is a downright lie unless strong means something complete different that is not in my dictionary.
Honestly I don't care if Ragini is mahan or not. All I care is if she has a worthy role to play in the show. And since she got married, she has FINALLY gotten something to do. I have always felt that Ragini is real and easier to relate to( except for rift until a certain point) while Sadhna is ideal. And I always prefer reality to idealness. I'm probably going to get atatcked for this but Ragini is emotional + practical, while Sadhna is mostly (98+%) emotional.
As for Sadhna's decision to forgive Naveen-Avni being illogical, well in a way it was. She forgave the people who tried to KILL her husband and were unsuccessful resulting in her beloved jiji's husband's jail for months and indirectly her beloved jiji's miscarriage. There are just some people in this world who shouldn't be forgiven. Sadhna should have told Ranvir about them after he came out. BUT because Sadhna did not, Ragini after 1 whole year got something to do, so I am not complaining. 😆


It will belittling the character Sadhana if you call me Sadhana's fan.I am a neutral viewer.When you are speaking you are stating you POV.I have read lots of comments about the character Sadhana here , that too very unfair ones.Any human being(other than some Ragini fans) can understand Sadhana's situation and reactions.Me too have opposed hers many time as I would have not acted like Sadhana many times.But picking small things and making it a big deal , you can see it very well here.There is a proverb"A husband who does not like his wife, will find a stone even in curd rice".It is like that.I think to judge somebody we have to be unbiased.

@Highlighted in red, this is your own POV.Don't want to even say anything about it.It has been discussed at least a million times in this forum.
Edited by Purehearts - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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ay hai.. phir jhagda...

I just want to celebrate!

I want Ragi's Celebration
and I want Vasu's Celebration

So lets not get into murky waters agin y'all.

: )

Lets just enjoy this phase of calmness (even if it is for 2-3 episodes lol)

I am glad Ragi kicked some serious butt today.. it was AWEESOME !

that just gives me a thought! I will open up another thread about that!

ok so all of you please lets just enjoy and be happy about whats going on and give full support to our Duo SAAGINI.

Sadhana fans should realize she is not compelte without Ragini
and Ragini fans shoudl realize she is not complete without Sadhana.

So lets just join hands and live in peace : ) shall we!

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Honestly- can't we all just get along? Sadhna is my girl and I don't try to hide that...however I really loved Ragini too. She has her own personality and way of dealing with things. Yes, the rift track really screwed things up HOWEVER- I cannot forget the years of unprejudiced love that Ragini gave Sadhna while her own mother treated Sadhna like dirt. Kaushi hated Sadhna because of her beauty...but Ragini never felt insecure because of it. She never thought that I should hate Sadhna because she is more beautiful than me...therefore her love was true and pure for Sadhna...

Same goes for Sadhna--who tried up and down to bring RagVir together...we just can't forget her role during the Anmol/Anamika track...she lost the dance competition because she couldn't bear to see her sister disappointed...so she thought, come what may, I'm gonna make sure I don't get in the way...

SAGINI are the heartbeat of this show and I love them both. Sadhna makes whatever decisions she makes, good or bad...but it's all based on love and no selfish intentions...Ragini does what she does without fear...so she can protect her loved ones too....both are special and unique and I love both.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: chocolover89

I really don't understand why Sadhna fans assume that Ragini fans get upset because Ragini is not "mahan" or a "devi" or "angel" because Ragini fans get upset at Ragini's lack of an actual role. As soon as Ragini got married, all she did was stand in the background like a piece of furniture or nod her head at what Ranvir said or cry. She hardly ever had any dialogues at all, forget role in anything, yet she was called a lead😕 This went on for atleast 6-8 months, even through the mystery track where she was missing for all of it except the unveiling. Now I know Parul got the chicken pox, but she was shooting for atleast 1 month before she returned to RV house. Also, I clearly remember RS said Parul got sick at the right time because Sadhna-Ranvir are the focus of the current track. So she wasn't even supposed to have a role in the mystery track anyways. After that, DB entered and the infamous rift track happened--Ragini finally got something to do--and the CT + RS made a complete character annihilation of Ragini's character causing everyone to hate her and bash her to the worst degrees (she should be beaten up to a pulp against the wall by Ranvir is just one).
Ragini finally got a chance because even RS knows he has to a LOT of damage control to do from the atrocious rift track in regards to Ragini's character. Also, he knows that he can't mollify Ragini fans anymore with "have patience, and Ragini is a strong character" because the latter is a downright lie unless strong means something complete different that is not in my dictionary.
Honestly I don't care if Ragini is mahan or not. All I care is if she has a worthy role to play in the show. And since she got married, she has FINALLY gotten something to do. I have always felt that Ragini is real and easier to relate to( except for rift until a certain point) while Sadhna is ideal. And I always prefer reality to idealness. I'm probably going to get atatcked for this but Ragini is emotional + practical, while Sadhna is mostly (98+%) emotional.
As for Sadhna's decision to forgive Naveen-Avni being illogical, well in a way it was. She forgave the people who tried to KILL her husband and were unsuccessful resulting in her beloved jiji's husband's jail for months and indirectly her beloved jiji's miscarriage. There are just some people in this world who shouldn't be forgiven. Sadhna should have told Ranvir about them after he came out. BUT because Sadhna did not, Ragini after 1 whole year got something to do, so I am not complaining. 😆

I understand what you are trying to say. Being a Sadhna fan, I myself didnt like to see Ragini standing like a pillar and nodding head to Ranvir all the time. Parul definately needed much more in this show as she and Sara both are main leads of the show. ...
Regarding bashing of characters, matured viewers will not comment like "she should be beaten up to a pulp against the wall by Ranvir" . These kind of comments about characters is very common, mostly in RS blog. But matured viewers wont write such stuff. For example, I have read your posts and I know you would like to see more of Parul as you feel she didnt get much screen space before (which is a valid point) and at times you have raised questions about Sadhna's actions. But you have done it in a matured way. Similarly, many of Sadhna's fans also write how Parul can be given more screen space. These arguments always lead healthy discussions. But, there is no solution to immature comments which are very irritating to read. I feel, most of them get confused with the actual actress and the role they play.
I dont know whether only Ragini is real and Sadhna is just ideal. But for me, if I see people like Sadhna in real life, then I salute to them. And I am doing the same in this fiction also.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#30

Originally posted by: hereandhappy

Bani,I agree with you that Sadhana's character was potrayed as such right from the begining as someone who can forgive easily and taking revenge is not part of her character .
the only thing i disagree is @Bold : does that mean people who eavesdrop or take revenge with someone who did wrong with you do not value love or they do not understand what forgiveness means ?



I have written at least twice that eavesdropping is not bad...pls read my main post neutrally, you can make out what I am trying to say?

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