Bakwas Episode:Mod's note PG17 - Page 6

Originally posted by: serialjunkie

There is a good saying by Peter Singer (Council for Secular Humanism) :-
"Freedom of speech is important, and it must include the freedom to say what everyone else believes to be false, and even what many people take to be offensive."

In other words, free speech by its very nature can be offensive or be against what everyone else believes in.

Now I do notice that in this forum (IF overall), people cringe when someone expresses harsh opinions about a character. However, we should be able to argue or ignore those comments without shutting the person out.

And I would also not say that anything we say in this forum is an ANY WAY a reflection of our personalities or who we are outside of the forum. Just because an author writes murder mysteries or does an awestruck in-depth analysis of a murderer's-mind does not make the author a murderer himself.

This is my POV - now I may be in the dog house for good. 😭

thats hwy i left bidaai for long time

Originally posted by: serialjunkie

There is a good saying by Peter Singer (Council for Secular Humanism) :-
"Freedom of speech is important, and it must include the freedom to say what everyone else believes to be false, and even what many people take to be offensive."

In other words, free speech by its very nature can be offensive or be against what everyone else believes in.

Now I do notice that in this forum (IF overall), people cringe when someone expresses harsh opinions about a character. However, we should be able to argue or ignore those comments without shutting the person out.

And I would also not say that anything we say in this forum is an ANY WAY a reflection of our personalities or who we are outside of the forum. Just because an author writes murder mysteries or does an awestruck in-depth analysis of a murderer's-mind does not make the author a murderer himself.

This is my POV - now I may be in the dog house for good. 😭

Well said. I can't believe how some members are creating so much hungama for a fictional character and on the other hand completely failing to see the language and tone in their own posts for other members.

This topic was not even on Sadhana in the first place. Someone asked me to share my views on Sadhana being called a nurse...I dont agree with this at all. In fact I loved Sadhana's character mainly due to her dedication and unconditional love for Alekh. But that doesn't mean I can make some harsh comments on someone else who thinks differently. I absolutely detest personal attacks and judgments.

Originally posted by: serialjunkie

There is a good saying by Peter Singer (Council for Secular Humanism) :-
"Freedom of speech is important, and it must include the freedom to say what everyone else believes to be false, and even what many people take to be offensive."

In other words, free speech by its very nature can be offensive or be against what everyone else believes in.

Now I do notice that in this forum (IF overall), people cringe when someone expresses harsh opinions about a character. However, we should be able to argue or ignore those comments without shutting the person out.

And I would also not say that anything we say in this forum is an ANY WAY a reflection of our personalities or who we are outside of the forum. Just because an author writes murder mysteries or does an awestruck in-depth analysis of a murderer's-mind does not make the author a murderer himself.

This is my POV - now I may be in the dog house for good. 😭

👏👏👏👏 Serialjunkie!! well expressed thoughts.

You are not in dog house in my view dear!!! 😳😳

Originally posted by: --Anu--

Well said. I can't believe how some members are creating so much hungama for a fictional character and on the other hand completely failing to see the language and tone in their own posts for other members.

This topic was not even on Sadhana in the first place. Someone asked me to share my views on Sadhana being called a nurse...I dont agree with this at all. In fact I loved Sadhana's character mainly due to her dedication and unconditional love for Alekh. But that doesn't mean I can make some harsh comments on someone else who thinks differently. I absolutely detest personal attacks and judgments.

Originally posted by: serialjunkie

What we write in the forum is not a reflection of ones personality. This is entertainment industry and and what ever is written here is a form of entertainment and everyone has a different take on that. Do not equate one's views expressed in this forum with one's personality, its ad hominem as I said before.

Additionally, because I support someone's right to express their views in this forum does not automatically mean I support their views. Did you read anywhere in this topic in which I state my opinion about Sadhna's character?

As for freedom of speech, do you believe for one second that KKK stands for the good of humanity and does not hold harm principle? Yet they enjoy their freedom in a free society. I can state several examples too to quote equally large number of cases where people have tried to kill Freedom of Speech because they did not like what they heard. Sorry we have to disagree on this.

If this discussion and views expressed by topic starter in some ways violate the forum rules, then let the moderators do their job and why not refrain from squelching the person out??

Also, I should say I certainly do not feel comfortable with the "Us versus Them" tone of these discussions. This forum is for all to discuss and enjoy, not a battle ground.

agreed, it applies to everyone...

Originally posted by: --Anu--

Well said. I can't believe how some members are creating so much hungama for a fictional character and on the other hand completely failing to see the language and tone in their own posts for other members.

This topic was not even on Sadhana in the first place. Someone asked me to share my views on Sadhana being called a nurse...I dont agree with this at all. In fact I loved Sadhana's character mainly due to her dedication and unconditional love for Alekh. But that doesn't mean I can make some harsh comments on someone else who thinks differently. I absolutely detest personal attacks and judgments.

I believe no one should be called on to justify any character. It should be left to ones own discretion. As serialjunkie rightly put it, "Freedom of speech is important, and it must include the freedom to say what everyone else believes to be false, and even what many people take to be offensive."by Peter Singer

Originally posted by: KiNnY-pArTnEr

thats hwy i left bidaai for long time

🤣

Don't worry... I am in the same club for most part... :) I a already 1 1/2 foot out the door... 😆

Originally posted by: serialjunkie

If one feels that Sadhna's role in Aalekh's life was that of a Nurse and nothing more, then that is indeed that persons POV and he/she can state it here in the forum.

Everyone must understand that all POVs are NOT equally palatable or acceptable to everyone. We can't go ad hominem just because someone says something that is not our cup of tea.

I may not agree with Vish's point of view, but I support her right to express it anyway. Its one way of looking at Sadhna's actions, while others look at it in a very favorable way.

Finally, calling Sadhna a Nurse is not nearly calling her a bad name. Its not an attack on Sadhna, but another way of looking at the characterization of Sadhna. You can argue on a number of reasons why Sadhna is not just a nurse but you cannot tell someone to not share their analysis of a character. I hope you appreciate the difference.

In any case, that wasn't the intent of this topic anyway.

The intent of this topic was to discuss how incoherent the entire sequence was and it is about illogical production.