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Posted: 15 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: Omshanti1111

<font color="#0000ff">Ragini's character is one of the most
realistic characters I have ever seen on TV. I hope her redemption will
be also done with grace and dignity....</font>




Yes, Bani she is very realistic....but her dialouges in the last couple of days has been so hateful, that I am getting a little nervous for her redemption.....words are like bullets...once gone will never come back......but since Parul is a fab actress, and does emotional scenes very well.....I am hoping it would be convincing enough......lets see.....so much for RS experiment...
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Posted: 15 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: Bini311



Yes, Bani she is very realistic....but her dialouges in the last couple of days has been so hateful, that I am getting a little nervous for her redemption.....words are like bullets...once gone will never come back......but since Parul is a fab actress, and does emotional scenes very well.....I am hoping it would be convincing enough......lets see.....so much for RS experiment...



her dialogues only made her realistic. When we get angry, we do not think anything, our power of judgement gets masked, thats when evil people take advantage, This is exactly what happened with Ragini. She was not at ease with Sdahna not speaking the lie, and then she got surrounded by all evil people. Hence all these problems. Our values, judgement all get masked when we fill ourselves with anger and hatred. and from here starts that "self-mode".

At the end of the day, its Ragini who will suffer. Because others do not share that bond with Sdahna. I am feeling how much pained Rgaini will be, when she starts realising her mistake. I'ld love to see Ragini;s redemption in a way that there is no chance of any misunderstanding in the future.

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Posted: 15 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: Omshanti1111



what he wanted to say was that "even the best relationships has to pass the test of time". Ragini's character is a true lesson to learn, I am pretty sure that her character will teach us about how not to depend on people liek Vasu, Avni, Kaushi during times, when one is mentallly down. If Ragini was not down mentally, this would have never happened. These people just took full advantage of Ragini's anger and weakpoint. And at the end of the day, its not Vasu et al who get blamed, but people like Ragini get blamed as also repent.

I understand why the rift was shown, and I have no such problem with a rift provided that it was dealt with properly. There are problems and misunderstanding in all relationships. I am referring to him saying the rift was always planned. I can buy that. I do not buy that the way it would happen was also planned.
As for another misunderstanding between the sisters, I do think RS has learned his lesson and will not repeat this mistake again, especially if it concerns showing Ragini anywhere near the way she has been portrayed till now.
Ragini was taken advantage of at her weakest, but it's always people like her who get balmed the most and people like her who will repent the most too because they fall in their own eyes. I am hoping that a lot of thought goes into her redemption. It can't ever undo the damage but it can make things slightly better.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#54

I think the main reason that negativity didn't work in Bidaai and it works better in other shows is that in other shows the people causing the negitivity are grey/black characters, but in Bidaai Ragini was never portrayed as a grey/black character. Her character was deliberately changed to suit the track (RS admits to this too), thus viewers found it harder to digest this track. If it was dealt with better, maybe if both sisters misunderstanding each other due to circumstances, then this track would have fared better. The main reason this did not work was that Ragini had a 360 degree turn. And I am happy RS realizes that.

Also, I am happy that he finally admitted that the story is about 2 sisters, meaning there are 2 leads, but Sadhna is the driving force of the story. Now that I know this for sure, I don't ever have to expect that Ragini will be shown as the driving force in a track.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: chocolover89

I understand why the rift was shown, and I have no such problem with a rift provided that it was dealt with properly. There are problems and misunderstanding in all relationships. I am referring to him saying the rift was always planned. I can buy that. I do not buy that the way it would happen was also planned.

As for another misunderstanding between the sisters, I do think RS has learned his lesson and will not repeat this mistake again, especially if it concerns showing Ragini anywhere near the way she has been portrayed till now.
Ragini was taken advantage of at her weakest, but it's always people like her who get balmed the most and people like her who will repent the most too because they fall in their own eyes. I am hoping that a lot of thought goes into her redemption. It can't ever undo the damage but it can make things slightly better.



agreed 2000%

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Posted: 15 years ago
#56
Hi,
I am a new Bidaai Fan. Just started watching it and have almost caught all the episodes.
This is my POV

First of all with human emotions in me, I started Disliking Ragini's character and Alekhs a LOT.

When ever I saw their faces anger flooded on my face and tears in my eyes as to how they can repay someone's goodness this way.

Reality is, these characters are very much real. People do use other people for benefit and take advantage of others and are ehsaan faramosh. Loads of them.

So I applaud Parul and Angad in giving such convincing portrayal of such true side of realistic emotions.

Sadhana, well... People like her are not meant to gain anything (worldly at least)

So thus, their living is only through giving and without that they feel empty inside.

In other words, Sadhana is happy, because she is doing what she loves doing. Living for Others

I do not justify her lies and her lying in the court, and lying in other places , do not match her character.

There is no such thing as a white lie. A lie is a lie doesn't matter how and when its told Except with conditions.

a) When a person is intermediating in order to bring about reconciliation between two disputing parties.

b) When a man speaks to his wife, or a wife to her husband, concerning matters that will increase the love between them.

So now keeping in this mind, Sadhana told the truth in the court as that was necessary as a witness cannot lie when is put on a stand and made to swear.

About the other lies that she has said in my point of view if it falls under one of the above mentioned conditions then it is to be overlooked.

now again this is my opinion,
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About her character itself,
She has a very good heart that beats for others. She puts others first and then her and if someone considers this kind of behavior to be Naive and bewakoofi then well they are right. A person of matter does not fall in the same hole twice and sadhna well she fell in the same hole ( that is people taking advantage of her) more than twice.

Her greatest weakness is her strength and her greatest strength is her weakness.

We cannot understand her because she is not meant to be understood.

So , she is happy and content. As what her heart desires she is following it and doing it.


Conclusion:

Ragini = very real

Sadhana = human goodness at a level that cannot be understood by everyone.


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Posted: 15 years ago
#57
zarmeeno hats off to u i am fully agree with ur each word ki agar aap ek ideal character ho aur sabkko advise dete ho kya karna hai kya nahi to yeh advice kyon nahi di ki ragini ko ph karke us ki maa ke baare main bataya jaye haan aap sauda karke shaadi kar sakte ho sauda karke divorce de sakte ho per ranveer aur ragini ki help nahi le sakte kuchh log yahan per yeh kah rahe hain ki beti ke ghar se kuchh bhi lena galat hota hai to bhai beti ke yahan per kaam kare job kare yeh sahi hai are musibat main to rishtedaar hi kaam aate hain phir kyon ranveer se paise nahi liye i dont thik ideal character but thanks rajan sahi ne mana to sahi ki ragini ko destroy kiya gaya hai per koi inse yeh poochhe destroy ragini kko hi karna tha sadhna ko kar deta itna itna destroy karke kahta hai ki improve karega foolish person and foolish CT aur jo log kahete hain ki woh dono character ko pyar karte hain galat hain woh log galat dancing step ko notice karte hain but yeh nahi mante who is better dancer agar dono ko like karte unbiased hote to jaroor maante kisne bahetar dance kiya
but zarmeeno u r most sensible person aur baaki jo kahete hai mujhe nahi lagta and smitha80 u r also most sensible person in the forum this is for u 👏
**Mod's note:This is for the third time I m informing u that u hv again violated the rule of "no personal attacks" as well as "no name calling" by addressing the creatives and RS as foolish..this is the last verbal warning which is given to you..next time if this is repeated again..we will have to take further action against you**
Edited by jyoti06 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
#58

Originally posted by: chocolover89

RS's words on Ragini: "We tried to show Ragini abit different, but it did not work."

I do not for one minute believe that her character was always planned like this. If it was, then there wouldn't be events showing otherwise. What I see from his comments is that they tried to experiment with Ragini's character, and he clearly admits that he made a mistake because it simply did not work. Obviously, if Ragini's character was like this from the beginning, and always intended to be like this, then what mistake did he make? Why even admit to making a mistake then?If he has the guts to admit he went wrong, then he could have alsoused the easy way and saidfans didn't like it, but Ragini was always like this.


What he said was that a rift was always planned. Maybe it was, maybe it's just him trying to justify it happening after tons of Bidaai fans flooded his blog saying don't do it. I cannot believe, nor can anyone actually convince me to believe thatthe rift was planned like this: Ragini's husband will go to jail, Ragini will miscarry, and Ragini will hate Sadhna. I can believe that a rift was in the pipeline however, the way it will happen was not planned.Come on, do we actually believe that CM was always supposed to be the culprilt from the very beginning?


Otherwise, I liked the interview a lot. He answered many questions that really needed to be answered, and I admire the fact that he can admit he made a mistake. I really wish he hadn't decided to experiment on Ragini like this, but atleast he realizes that it backfired very badly and probably will not attempt to ruin Ragini like this again is it is possible for her to fall deeper into a pit. Sadly, the damage has been done, and it's going to be very hard for him and the CT to fix it.


Btw, with Garima Digri on board, with all due respect to her, it might be next year before that happens. YRKKH is the slowest serial-the wedding day itselftook 1 month of episodes.



well said.. RS made a mistake not listening to the viewers and 'experimented' with ragini LOL...
Garima Digri will copy the story from the forum so which ever way you wanted ragini to be shown she will do that for you all... as that is what she was doing with YRKKH...(in betn borrowed foolish brains of RS team )LOL
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Posted: 15 years ago
#59

Originally posted by: yshd_sharma

zarmeeno hats off to u i am fully agree with ur each word ki agar aap ek ideal character ho aur sabkko advise dete ho kya karna hai kya nahi to yeh advice kyon nahi di ki ragini ko ph karke us ki maa ke baare main bataya jaye haan aap sauda karke shaadi kar sakte ho sauda karke divorce de sakte ho per ranveer aur ragini ki help nahi le sakte kuchh log yahan per yeh kah rahe hain ki beti ke ghar se kuchh bhi lena galat hota hai to bhai beti ke yahan per kaam kare job kare yeh sahi hai are musibat main to rishtedaar hi kaam aate hain phir kyon ranveer se paise nahi liye i dont thik ideal character but thanks rajan sahi ne mana to sahi ki ragini ko destroy kiya gaya hai per koi inse yeh poochhe destroy ragini kko hi karna tha sadhna ko kar deta itna itna destroy karke kahta hai ki improve karega foolish person and foolish CT aur jo log kahete hain ki woh dono character ko pyar karte hain galat hain woh log galat dancing step ko notice karte hain but yeh nahi mante who is better dancer agar dono ko like karte unbiased hote to jaroor maante kisne bahetar dance kiya

but zarmeeno u r most sensible person aur baaki jo kahete hai mujhe nahi lagta and smitha80 u r also most sensible person in the forum this is for u 👏

Thank u so much
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Final Warning from Dev Team
Friends it has come to my notice that some members are directly or indirectly addressing RS as foolish which is more or less a personal attack to the Bidaai creative team..your comments about a foolish or bad story is fine as story can be bad or foolish..its fictional..but we cannot address a creative head/producer as foolish in a open forum when we very well know that RS is a reputed producer who is having his blog on IF and also goes through each and every comment here..so while criticizng lets criticize the storyline and not the person whom we hardly know in personal life..so how can we question someone's intelligence if we personally don't know that guy ??How will we feel if our boss addresses us as foolish openly in front of everyone..please think about it..Instead of saying "Foolish RS" we can say that "RS and creatives hv made a foolish sort of storyline" which will look more appropriate in the context of constructive criticism..I said this in rules post also that we should know how to use certain words in the right context......For more information Refer to our Rules Post**
This is my final warning to those who have violated this rule..they know who they are..please don't repeat it again or else Dev team will have to take a very strict action this time😊
Bidaai Dev team
Eva,Jyoti and Kiran
Edited by jyoti06 - 15 years ago

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