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Posted: 15 years ago
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I agree with Kinny_partner,I will only blame the Cts.
Kaushi and Vasu stayed true to their characters .
We knew how they would react.Their characters haven't deviated much from their original sketch.
But Ragini's character is so different from what she was shown before marriage,they had to show a FB scene to justify her behavior.
Same with Alekh he was a more protective of Sadhna when he was a retard and also showed more sensitivity..look at him now.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Omshanti1111




<FONT color=#0033cc>Coming to your question why Sadhna did not speak openly with Ragini what she could do with Ranveer...but do youremeber that situation, Sadhna did not herself tell Ranveer, but Ranveer could feel and asked Sadhna... my question is same for Ragini, Ragini knows Sdahna from childhood, could she not make out that Sadhna was in a dilemma...any Tom, Dick and Harry could understand that Sadhna will not be able to speak lies by seeing her shivering and fainting, and even if she does, she will be caught in no time...I agree that Sadhna should have been stronger and said "I wont lie", but when I watched, I left she wated to lie, but could not at the last moment...</FONT>

<FONT color=#0033cc>Ragini's all love vanished within a moment when Sadhna could not cater to Ragini;s needs..again if such a situation arises, then Ragini will again weigh her and Sadhna's relationship onthe factor, whether Sadhna can cater to her needs...there was an act of childishness...</FONT>

<FONT color=#0033cc>This is where neighbouring people come in.. and these neighbouring people are not Naveen or Avni or Vasu or Malti..but Kaushi, Mamaji, Naniji, Vinu who have seen their love over the years... Kaushi and Nani just utilised this situation to prove their point that Sadhna is a curse for Ragini...Mamaji should have interacted more with Ragini, Vinu as the only brother to both his sisters should have done a brotherly act...but noone did anything..rather added fuel to the fire...</FONT>



Yes, I wanted to say the same thing. Why is Ragini and Sadhna's relationship not like that? Why couldn't Sadhna tell her honestly? I'm not blaming Sadhna, I'm just asking why is the relationship not so that Sadhna could open her heart out? I've always felt that Sadhna has always tried to bring happiness into Ragini's life, she has lived for that, Ragini has also done the same but only when her own interest came into picture she faltered, not just this time but even during the Ranvir slapping incident. Even then I expected Ragini to confront her rather than the cold treatment she was meeting out to Sadhna before Ranvir made her understand. Their relationship is weak is all I can say. Yes, others added fuel to the fire but if the relationship is strong no one can step in. See Sadhna Ranvir or Sadhna Mamaji's relationship. Has mamiji been able to ruin it?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: farislove



I don't agree with u, insteadof getting effected by Kaushi and Vasu's negativity,Sadhna and Raginishould make these people understand that life not take on negativity............



So till they understand, they should just sit quietly and lash out? And what if Vasu and Kaushi never understand? Why should they rely on someone else to support/encourage them in their relationship?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: helloall



Yes, I wanted to say the same thing. Why is Ragini and Sadhna's relationship not like that? Why couldn't Sadhna tell her honestly? I'm not blaming Sadhna, I'm just asking why is the relationship not so that Sadhna could open her heart out? I've always felt that Sadhna has always tried to bring happiness into Ragini's life, she has lived for that, Ragini has also done the same but only when her own interest came into picture she faltered, not just this time but even during the Ranvir slapping incident. Even then I expected Ragini to confront her rather than the cold treatment she was meeting out to Sadhna before Ranvir made her understand. Their relationship is weak is all I can say. Yes, others added fuel to the fire but if the relationship is strong no one can step in. See Sadhna Ranvir or Sadhna Mamaji's relationship. Has mamiji been able to ruin it?



agreed... what you said... even during that college guy incident, she suspected Sadhna's intentions...that means if you look at the creatives craetivity, they have been consistently shown that Ragini's understanding was a but weaker than Sadhna's..Slapping incident cannot be related to misunderstanding though.. Sadhna should have kept her cool, she could not, she was at fault...

Yes, Mamaji-Sadhna and Sadhna- Ranveer relationships are equal because as human beings, all are excellent and altruistic, selfless...I run short of adjectives to describe these three people..they have inner sense to feel people..like Ranveer even staying away could feel that Sadhna could be in trouble or by looking at Sdahna felt that there is something wrong going on and she is in a dilemma...

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Its hard to blame anyone for the rift between the sisters as the sole reason as surroundings and circumstances around them created the rift. We have insecurity from mamiji's side. If she only realized Sadhna will never stay in the way for Raginis happiness and saw the good nature of Sadhna, things could have been smoother for the sisters. She is neither a good or bad person, but definitely a bad guilder and influence for her daughter. her whole world is all about mama ji and her kids, a mother will always be selfish when it comes to her own kids as she want the best, that's why she couldn't give a place for Sadhna in her heart. Then we have Vasu, her love for her kids are kind of extreme and it folds her eyes

Like someone above mentioned, the lack of communication between the sisters, there is no doubt they share unique bond between them but somewhere, both have not been 100% honest with each other. At one point, both have hided things from each other instead of sharing it with each other and clear out stuff. Both shares their happiness but hold backs their sorrows and pains with good intention but at one point it will backfire. how will the other part know what you think or feel if you are not open?

High expectations of someone is also not good. Good exp is the court trial, high expectations and hopes for others may be too high for the situation at hand and when the outcomes it not like the one excepted it may create a big emotional breakdown like in Raginis case.
Many good points on the posts aboves👍🏼
The list can go on and on if we take time to analyze everything😆 but the main culprite for the rift are the creative heads😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: meli

Its hard to blame anyone for the rift between the sisters as the sole reason as surroundings and circumstances around them created the rift. We have insecurity from mamiji's side. If she only realized Sadhna will never stay in the way for Raginis happiness and saw the good nature of Sadhna, things could have been smoother for the sisters. She is neither a good or bad person, but definitely a bad guilder and influence for her daughter. her whole world is all about mama ji and her kids, a mother will always be selfish when it comes to her own kids as she want the best, that's why she couldn't give a place for Sadhna in her heart. Then we have Vasu, her love for her kids are kind of extreme and it folds her eyes

Like someone above mentioned, the lack of communication between the sisters, there is no doubt they share unique bond between them but somewhere, both have not been 100% honest with each other. At one point, both have hided things from each other instead of sharing it with each other and clear out stuff. Both shares their happiness but hold backs their sorrows and pains with good intention but at one point it will backfire. how will the other part know what you think or feel if you are not open?

High expectations of someone is also not good. Good exp is the court trial, high expectations and hopes for others may be too high for the situation at hand and when the outcomes it not like the one excepted it may create a big emotional breakdown like in Raginis case.
Many good points on the posts aboves👍🏼
The list can go on and on if we take time to analyze everything😆 but the main culprite for the rift are the creative heads😆



I agree with you on every thing but not about the creatives... I have seen many cases, where the best of friends have separated due to misunderstanding..even siblings raised together have pointed fingers and parted ways...
its only because its you I am saying, as I feel you will understand..if you have watched Bidaai from the beginning, the creatives have sort of kept Ragini's character open to go any side, because starting from her college crush to this recent setback, Ragini had been shown to be the one who has misnderstood..but she always was guided and she responded to that guidance...she has always been a simple girl, who can get deviated....which happens to any average person...Ragini is actually more real...Circumstances were such and the people who were guiding Ragini are the ones, who first of all do not have any quality to guide Ragini and completely turned her dilemma about Sadhna into certainty...Kasuhi's sins are completely responsible for Ragini's tears now...



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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Omshanti1111

<br><br><font color="#0033ff">agreed... what you said... even during that college guy incident, she suspected Sadhna's intentions...that means if you look at the creatives craetivity, they have been consistently shown that Ragini's understanding was a but weaker than Sadhna's..Slapping incident cannot be related to misunderstanding though.. Sadhna should have kept her cool, she could not, she was at fault...<br><br>Yes, Mamaji-Sadhna and Sadhna- Ranveer relationships are equal because as human beings, all are excellent and altruistic, selfless...I run short of adjectives to describe these three people..they have inner sense to feel people..like Ranveer even staying away could feel that Sadhna could be in trouble or by looking at Sdahna felt that there is something wrong going on and she is in a dilemma...<br></font><br>



I'm not saying Sadhna was not at fault in the Slapping incident. I'm just pointing to the behavior by Ragini after that. If Sadhna was at fault, she should have confronted her, scolded her, be mad at her but not given her a cold shoulder the way she did. This clearly shows that the relationship is not a strong one.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Well the obvious answer is Bidaai CT.

But, IMO, Ragini and Sadhna are first and foremost responsible for the rift. A rift cannot happen between the said people, if THEY themselves didn't allow it. Sadhna should have told Ragini the truth right away, and Ragini should have looked past her grief to realize that Sadhna cannot lie. With those acts, both Sagini set themselves up for a rift that other people took advantage of.
Now that I think about it, Sagini's bond isn't extremely truthful. Sadhna has lied many times to Ragini in the past, yet their bond is supposed to the strongest in the show. If it was as strong as was touted, then Sadhna would've freely told Ragini that she felt uncomfortable telling the truth, or Ragini would've understood that in teh first place. But instead, it was Ranvir who realized that and it was Ranvir to whom Sadhna could tell the truth. Sadhna-Ranvir bond is actually stronger than Sagini and to some extent Ragvir as well.
Kaushi, Vasu played their part in adding fuel to the fire. Yes, they added to the rift, but they are not solely responsible for it. Besides that, circumstances also played their part, but you can't blame everything on circumstances.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#29
it true that the rift was caused by kaushi. but there were more people to it.
other than kausi who had a long desire, then it was Bua too who tried to do it, avni being the person behind it.
we could also see nani many a times especially before ragini's marriage.
the society on the whole is responsible for such things & doesnt want to see these kind of relationships persisting & others happy
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: taral83

I believe that most people and society live under the notion that "apne apne hote hai...aur paraya paraya hote hai....." No matter what Sadhna does for Ragni.......for Kaushi she was never her real sister...not related by blood....so she couldn't have meant good for Ragni.....that is the misconception that Kaushi is living under. I don't believe that Kaushi wanted to cause a rift between them.......in the evil sense............but I think that Kaushi is genuinely under the impression that Ragni suffers because of Sadhna....and that she must some how really and truly show Ragni Sadhna's true intentions and character....All throught out their life.......Kaushi has seen injustice done to Ragni due to her color and Sadhna beauty...........and to add to that Sadhna is not her REAL sister.............those two factors have created a hatred for Sadhna........because she believes that Sadhna is out to hurt Ragni...........If she was her own sister...........yes Kaushi would not have acted the way she does right now......because she would be Ragni's REAL SISTER..............but the truth is she is not.....and all the wrongs that have happened in Ragni's life are directly or indirectly connected with Sadhna..............call it a mother's love or what.........but that is the average mind of society......................No matter what and how much a out sider does for you..........they will never get the same place in one's heart as someone that is your own..........we see that in everyday issues of saas-bahu's..........daughter-in-law will never be a daughter (and not all cases, im speaking general).....and a mother-in-law can never be a mother (again just general)............why...that blood relationship.........And that is Kaushi's problem...........and when all the mess started to happen......with the case and miscarriage....Kaushi thought what a better opportunity to make Ragni realize Sadhna's true character.......I must warn her before she makes more mistakes.......Kaushi is one of the many that are good at heart........but are under misconception about Sadhna's honest,good natured, and loving character.

No Kaushi is not at all good at heart ....
Proof of that was .. the share from Sharmaji's 2 lac rupees for Sadhna .... Kaushi taken all sadhna's property for Sharmaji's treatment ... and she knows that it was Sadhna, who sacrified by marrying Alekh to free Kaushalya Niwas .. but wanted all Sharmaji's money for her own childern. Kaushi even was so angry when Sharmaji wanted to celebrate Sadhna's marriage ... just bcoz paisa Sadhna ke like kiyu kharch kare .... imagine ... I will take all your money ... dene time me thenga .... but she would be chaplush to Malti ... telling Bahu nadan hein
Is this an example of a person GOOD AT HEART ....

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