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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: taral83

i think what we are forgeting is GREED........greed makes a person do many things. Parents and teachers instill many good values in us as we grow...actually in preparations to when we face the biggest enemy in our lives "GREED". However it is totally up to the person how to use what they have been taught. Greed is the biggest challenger to truth. Only strong individuals can stand up to greed and go the right way. Ragni has become greedy for a happy martial life, because she has never been loved the way she has beenloved byRanvir....due to her color. It has made her greedy for love..but she has forgotten where she has came from and how much Sad has helped her in the past....Just like when the poor get rich...only some stay down to earth and never forget where they came from but some forget everything and get more greedy for money....It is taking her down the wrong path. Although mamji has taught the same values to all three children............why has only one followed them? Its because of inner strenghth and faith in God.....I had said in another post by Omshanti that god resides in the truth..........if you don't have faith in God then you don't have faith in truth as well, making u vulnerble to the Devil...and lies.......viewers that are defending Ragni and have no objection to lieing (even after taking the oth of truthon the GITA)...have become Greedy......to watch RagVir.........and Ragni's happiness. (AND I AM NOT MAKING ANY ACCUSATIONS ON ANYONES CHARACTER SO PLEASE DON'T TAKE THIS PERSONALLY...SORRY IN ADVANCE IF I HURT ANYONE) that greed to watch Ragni happy has made them blind and therefore can not see the important reasons behind y it was very necessarythat Sad said the truth........all i want to say is...that the truth always wins in the end.........and that is what will happen in Bidaai also. If Ragni's love for Sad is true they will solve their differences in no time........



🤣 Greed!!!.
Wishing your husband to be safe and happy is greed.
Then all of Sadhna's past actions can be explained by greed.
Sadhna spoke the truth because SHE wanted to feel good about herself.

And yeah truth may come out in the end but the person concerned may have died of oldage in the meantime.
I don't base my world view on fiction and I don't think majority of people want to learn lessons on morality from TV serials.. its a business plain and simple.

As about truth always winning in the end ,just read the newspaper.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: Veritas



🤣 Greed!!!.
Wishing your husband to be safe and happy is greed.
Then all of Sadhna's past actions can be explained by greed.
Sadhna spoke the truth because SHE wanted to feel good about herself.

And yeah truth may come out in the end but the person concerned may have died of oldage in the meantime.
I don't base my world view on fiction and I don't think majority of people want to learn lessons on morality from TV serials.. its a business plain and simple.

As about truth always winning in the end ,just read the newspaper.



Haha, Oh my God! Well said Veritas! I love the way you write and put forward your POV. I don't really want to comment on this topic but I could not help myself in applauding the way you write! Three Cheers!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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So one more accusation against Ragini as if there aren't enough already.Greed!!!!What happened to 'love'?Isn't that the purest emotion?She loves her husband.If people ask again does she not love Sadhana as she is her sister,yes she does but at that particular moment her love was only for her husband and apart from that there was also pain involved!

And once again I say trust in any form whether u put blind behind or after is a trust.


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Posted: 15 years ago
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Omshanti I'm not saying that what Sahana did was wrong. But she was'nt honest also with Ragini. Not once she made an attempt to go and talk to Ragini that she is not comfortable in lying. So in my opinion she was not honest in her relationship with her sister. Ragini infact everybody was totally depending on her. I know Vasu would have never listened to her but atleast she should have made an attempt to talk to Ragini. It is not the matter of truth or lie. It is the matter of trust which Sadhana broke. Y did'nt she once said that she will not lie. They would have thought of another way. I'm not saying that Ragini's attitude is rite but her anger is justified.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Zarmeeno,yes they could have solved all this just by having a small talk.Was their bond that weak that Sadhana couldn't even open herself to her sister?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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"wishing her husband to be safe and happy is greed"
Exactally that is the point.........Ranvir is HAPPY......he is happy that he did not get his freedom the wrong way.......but Rag never attempted to find that out...........he is perfectly safe as well.........he was not sentenced to death.......so what is she worried about...she is wants him with her and wants to be loved.....that is greed....i never said anything about wanting her husband safe and happy.....n as for TV teaching us about mortality......well TV is a medium on which one can show one's belief and thinking.....just like the Gita(any other holy book) or music....they are also mediums that teache us about "mortality"...they are also mediums that one uses to portray one's belief and thinking.......so then y consider tv any different then any other medium of teaching? Yes this a fictional story, but as far as I know ...is there any proof on any religious event in history besides what is written in the holy books........so as far as I am concerned that can very well also be just a fictional story, but we use its teaching day in and out......most of us don't think of them that way because we believe that it did happen (i do atleast).....So as far as learning from fiction........you can learn something new from anything...........And I do read the newspaper everyday and am aware of the lies, injustice, theft and murder that goes around........but it doesn't mean that I also get up and become a part of that "wanted" list...............
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Posted: 15 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: taral83

i think what we are forgeting is GREED........greed makes a person do many things. Parents and teachers instill many good values in us as we grow...actually in preparations to when we face the biggest enemy in our lives "GREED". However it is totally up to the person how to use what they have been taught. Greed is the biggest challenger to truth. Only strong individuals can stand up to greed and go the right way. Ragni has become greedy for a happy martial life, because she has never been loved the way she has been loved by Ranvir.... due to her color. It has made her greedy for love..but she has forgotten where she has came from and how much Sad has helped her in the past....Just like when the poor get rich...only some stay down to earth and never forget where they came from but some forget everything and get more greedy for money... .It is taking her down the wrong path. Although mamji has taught the same values to all three children............why has only one followed them? Its because of inner strenghth and faith in God.....I had said in another post by Omshanti that god resides in the truth..........if you don't have faith in God then you don't have faith in truth as well, making u vulnerble to the Devil...and lies.......viewers that are defending Ragni and have no objection to lieing (even after taking the oth of truth on the GITA)...have become Greedy......to watch RagVir.........and Ragni's happiness. (AND I AM NOT MAKING ANY ACCUSATIONS ON ANYONES CHARACTER SO PLEASE DON'T TAKE THIS PERSONALLY...SORRY IN ADVANCE IF I HURT ANYONE) that greed to watch Ragni happy has made them blind and therefore can not see the important reasons behind y it was very necessary that Sad said the truth........all i want to say is...that the truth always wins in the end.........and that is what will happen in Bidaai also. If Ragni's love for Sad is true they will solve their differences in no time........



You are right and I got your point. Its Kaushi's "GREED" (not love) for her own daughter's happiness that makes her do injustice with Sadhana. Trying to save your own husband is not a "GREED" unless there is no injustice done to another person. I call it GREED not "LOVE" because love doesn't make you blind... its greed. This can be easily understood with Mamaji and Kaushi's behavior in recent times.

The attachment and desires produce anger, that results in destuction of intelligence and bewilderment. One loses a sense of right or wrong.

I also think TV makes some impact on the mindset of viewers....may be a little.


Edited by --Anu-- - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
#38
Is Ranvir an alternate version of Ragini or what?So he is happy so what she has to be too?We keep saying everyone is deifferent then again want Ragini to act like Ranvir!
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Posted: 15 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: taral83

"wishing her husband to be safe and happy is greed"

Exactally that is the point.........Ranvir is HAPPY......he is happy that he did not get his freedom the wrong way.......but Rag never attempted to find that out...........he is perfectly safe as well.........he was not sentenced to death.......so what is she worried about...she is wants him with her and wants to be loved.....that is greed....i never said anything about wanting her husband safe and happy.....n as for TV teaching us about mortality......well TV is a medium on which one can showone's belief and thinking.....just like the Gita(any other holy book) or music....they are also mediums that teache us about "mortality"...they are also mediums that one uses to portray one's belief and thinking.......so then y consider tv any different then any other medium of teaching? Yes this a fictional story, but as far as I know ...is there any proof on any religious event in history besides what is written in the holy books........so as far asI am concerned that can very well also bejust a fictional story, but we use its teaching day in and out......most of us don't think of them that way because we believe thatit did happen (i do atleast).....So as far as learning from fiction........you can learn something new from anything...........And I do read the newspaper everyday and am aware of the lies, injustice, theft and murder that goes around........but it doesn't mean that I also get up and become a part of that "wanted" list...............




Yeah Ranvir is happy because in Bidaai's version of jail he can wear gold rings,eat ok food and spend his time talking to friendly next cell goon.oh and people can just drop in for a visit.
However in real life you have torture improper living conditions(read rats cockroaches and other vermin) no medical facilities,no proper sanitation, regular beatings from Police and probable "friendly" visits from other convicts.
And yes people don't watch daily soaps to get their daily moral dose ,they watch Astha(others too) channel for that or mythologies.

And I was right you are naive since lies, injustice, theft and murder don't get you on the wanted list but rather a seat in parliament.
Edited by Veritas - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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if sadna wud hav told ragz b4hand tat she canot teztify in favour of ranvir ..i dont c ny rift comin bw sis ,,tat shocckk element had 2 b thr ...n the ultimate court sequenze which wud pave way 4 de driftin apart of sis,, the ctz had 2 show it @ny cozt ,,n oh i saw de preview . 4 2morw ahem ahem accidently 😆...n gundaaa iz out of coma ,,,😲😆..n telin sadna tat sum1 send them 2 .resort inorder2 .harm alek😲😲😆..so itz a thriller nite 2morw ..im egrly waitin 4 da suzpaanzzee 2 b out ,,,😆

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