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Posted: 11 years ago
#31
To be precise, Gopi also tried many times when she was still at MM to tell Ahem that she is pregnant.. Once she kept a note in his lunch box, second time every one had gathered, Gopi wanted to tell this at that time too, but then Kinjal was the first one to say and she did not want to spoil the happiness of Kinjal.. She thought she will get another opportunity to tell..
What I am saying is Gopi cannot be legally held responsible for not telling that she delivered a baby girl to MM..When they did not trust her that Gopi could never do such things like dropping Meera off...
It is an accident.. it can happen to anyone.. Ahem has done that in the past..He had brought home some other kid in place of Meera ...
It is just the way of looking at it...if Kokila decides that Gopi is wrong, then she is wrong forever.. and that's not fair ...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Well , my contacts with lawyers tell me another story so i guess we shall just have to agree to disagree .😊 Law is like a 2 edged sword , it can be argued both ways .
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Posted: 11 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: Justlikethat1



As long as the child is not born, it is not considered to belong to both parents. The mother has the right over her body and has the right over her fetus.


I doubt this argument would hold when 1) Gopi was married and was not raped when she conceived Vidya, so yes, fetus belongs to both parents, and 2) Gopi "trying" to tell Ahem about her pregnancy is no argument in legal terms. She had many opportunities to tell him.

I believe in feminism, but what I see in this forum is not feminism, but favoring the female's right over the male's, which is just as wrong as chauvinism. Feminism in my terms is equal right for man and woman, but most people here seem to be favoring Gopi over Ahem, for the simple fact that he is harboring hatred against her. No one is thinking of Vidya's needs or the law. It's shocking how people think a father is worthless in a child's life, and as long as a mother is there, a father is not required. 🤔

I wonder if people would be thinking the same if Ahem had separated Vidya from Gopi for 8 years! Then all the feminists would let up a cry over the injustice of a mother and child being separated.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Leki

Nope here Gopi left when she was still conceived with child.. Ahem is also parent agrred to that but Gopi taking away Vidya is not kidnapping... plus court will see the circumstances in that time also there is advantage for Gopi coz she left home coz she was mentally abused... plus Gopi did take good care of Vidya and provided her with all facilities and she did have a normal life... Plus when it comes to a minor child mother have more right over kid..


Just one question - where in the law does it say that a mother has more right over her child than a father?

I challenge all the mothers out there who think in this way, to conceive a child without a father's sperm! If they manage to do that, then yes, keep the child to yourself. 😊 The same goes for any father who thinks they can have a child without the mother's egg. Neither is possible, so people need to accept that a child belongs to both parents equally. Yeah, women may carry the child for 9 months, but that is how their body was created. Why must men be on the lower end because of it? They have just as much claim over the child as a mother does.
Edited by ..RamKiJanaki.. - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..


Just one question - where in the law does it say that a mother has more right over her child than a father?

I challenge all the mothers out there who think in this way, to conceive a child without a father's sperm! If they manage to do that, then yes, keep the child to yourself. 😊

i am afraid a mother does get more rights to a child than a father, in hindu law they say that a mother is needed by the child until the child decides, in muslim law it goes as far as 7 n in english law a mother normally gets her child or children there is no right or wrong in this as its the child who suffer as both parents will be at loggerheads.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: suk19

i am afraid a mother does get more rights to a child than a father, in hindu law they say that a mother is needed by the child until the child decides, in muslim law it goes as far as 7 n in english law a mother normally gets her child or children there is no right or wrong in this as its the child who suffer as both parents will be at loggerheads.


I'm afraid though that India is a secular country. It does not follow the law of any religion, so as per the law of India, no mother or father has the right to take a child away from the other unless given custody by the court. It's the law.

It's really sad to see how many people give such less importance to fathers. I know many single fathers who lovingly bring up their kids after their mothers abandoned them. They take care of them just as well as a mother. Maybe some people here have had bad experiences with their fathers and therefore give less importance to them, but I know from my own personal experience that I could never choose between them, and I would never want to grow up with just one of them.

Anyway, isn't it unfair to say that a mother deserves the child until the child is old enough to decide who they want to stay with? Obviously the child will choose the person who raised them, so already this so-called law is highly biased against fathers. 😕
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: suk19

in english law a mother normally gets her child or children there is no right or wrong in this as its the child who suffer as both parents will be at loggerheads.


This is not true. In the US, law is far more fair and secular and does not distinguish between mother and father. I have many friends who have divorced parents, and they spend and equal amount of time with both of them. One week they are with their mother, one week with their father, and the parents take turns having them at home for holidays (thanksgiving with one parent, christmas with another, etc). There was also an incident in the news recently. A child had gone to their mother's house because it was her turn to take care of the child. The mother had the child only for one week, but when she did not bring the child back to the father after the week was over, she got arrested because she broke the child's custody law. US is very strict in these terms. Neither mother nor father can claim more right over the child.

Custody goes to one parent only when there is evidence that the other parent is abusive to their child. It doesn't matter if the parent was abusive to their spouse. They would still get their child if they were never abusive to them.
Edited by ..RamKiJanaki.. - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..


I'm afraid though that India is a secular country. It does not follow the law of any religion, so as per the law of India, no mother or father has the right to take a child away from the other unless given custody by the court. It's the law.

It's really sad to see how many people give such less importance to fathers. I know many single fathers who lovingly bring up their kids after their mothers abandoned them. They take care of them just as well as a mother. Maybe some people here have had bad experiences with their fathers and therefore give less importance to them, but I know from my own personal experience that I could never choose between them, and I would never want to grow up with just one of them.

Anyway, isn't it unfair to say that a mother deserves the child until the child is old enough to decide who they want to stay with? Obviously the child will choose the person who raised them, so already this so-called law is highly biased against fathers. 😕

i was researching this after this discussion came up a good few weeks back it was on a forum lawyers talking to individuals and this is was what was said, they also said that some fathers do get the children or refuse to pay for maintenance leaving the mother struggling. its a two way streak parents are often their own enemy. This is why i quoted about hindu n muslim law
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Posted: 11 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: suk19

i was researching this after this discussion came up a good few weeks back it was on a forum lawyers talking to individuals and this is was what was said, they also said that some fathers do get the children or refuse to pay for maintenance leaving the mother struggling. its a two way streak parents are often their own enemy. This is why i quoted about hindu n muslim law


I know that people often go by religious laws, but in a secular country it doesn't matter what religion someone belongs to. There is one law system to govern the country, and I know India is becoming more progressive in its laws. There used to be way more single mothers than single fathers, but nowadays there are many single fathers too because men are starting to get custody of kids. Trust me, this is not at all rare.

In 90% cases where both parents have a clean reputation, they will get equal custody of the children. No emotional or religious arguments are condoned in court. They care about law only, so in most cases both parents have equal right over the child. Like I mentioned before, either mother or father gets full custody only when the other parent is proven to be incapable of raising the child, either because they are abusive to the child or they are mentally/physically disabled. But these are exceptions which are not often found.

We can look at Yeh Hai Mohabbatein for this example. Raman lost custody of his son, Aditya, because his ex-wife gave false evidence to prove that he was abusive towards him, but he still got custody of his daughter Ruhi. The court did not automatically give Ruhi to Shagun just because she was Ruhi's mother. A mother is important no doubt, but a father is equally important.

So we cannot say Gopi alone deserves Vidya. Ahem may have failed as a husband, but he is still a great father as we've seen him taking care of Vidya after she came to the Modi Bhavan. It's unfair to Vidya for her to be deprived of both parents, so I will continue to say this that Gopi did a terrible mistake by separating Vidya from Ahem for 8 years. Had I been in Ahem's position, I would not have forgiven Gopi for a long time. That resentment is completely realistic and expected. Gopi overcame Meera's death only because she had Vidya. She had the joy of raising another child who healed the pain her heart, whereas Ahem, although he had the whole family, could not get over Meera's death because his life was empty without the joy of a child.
Edited by ..RamKiJanaki.. - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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So we cannot say Gopi alone deserves Vidya. Ahem may have failed as a husband, but he is still a great father as we've seen him taking care of Vidya after she came to the Modi Bhavan. It's unfair to Vidya for her to be deprived of both parents, so I will continue to say this that Gopi did a terrible mistake by separating Vidya from Ahem for 8 years. Had I been in Ahem's position, I would not have forgiven Gopi for a long time. That resentment is completely realistic and expected. Gopi overcame Meera's death only because she had Vidya. She had the joy of raising another child who healed the pain her heart, whereas Ahem, although he had the whole family, could not get over Meera's death because his life was empty without the joy of a child.


Word .

A big 👏 to all your arguments and knowledge as thats exactly what i know in my limited way .

Regarding bold , in my case , for LIFE . And tameez is preached to him .😆

I really dislike the feminist bubble the serial makers build up by over hype of the Maa . I have seen so many Maas lose custody for lesser offences .



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