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Posted: 11 years ago
#21
I totally agree with you all. We all want gopi to stand for her rights.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#22
That track was rubbish

i am NOT a Kokila fan . I only comment on tracks and in this track its Gopi who is wrong .

I don't see what Ahem being a mama's boy has to do with making Gopi's ability to seperate a child from father better or understandable than Kokila's .

Mama's boys may be attached to their mamas . That does not stop them from loving their kids . It perhaps stops them from giving wives more importance than mamas . So i really fail to see the difference .

As i see it , it is a serial where each character makes a mistake in each track . This track , for me its Gopi . For accepting a mistake that wasn't hers and keeping a father from his kid due to her personal problems .

Where Radha's importance in the house is concerned , i blame both eqally , both Kokila and Gopi .
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Posted: 11 years ago
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There is nothing wrong about Ahem and Koki's close relationship. What is wrong is to except that there can be no other person in this world who shares an equally close relationship with the child.

The mama's boy was an explanation to the question, what was the difference between Gopi separating Vidya and Koki doing the same. The fact that Koki is the grandmother and not the mother is the difference😊

I am a Kokila fan. I respect her discipline and conviction. But I am not blind to her faults. And in this track she has quite a few of those.

My only issue is that in this track, it is not only Gopi, but Ahem and Koki too who are at fault.

Gopi is at fault in hiding Vidya from Ahem and that to me is something that these two should deal with
Koki is at fault for pushing Gopi to leave the house. She can keep insisting that she did not say the actual words. It is however obvious that her animosity with Gopi and Ahem's hate towards her were what pushed Gopi away.
Ahem to be is at fault for being ready to believe that his wife could be that careless. And even if she had been at fault, it was an accident.

The argument of grief and distress applies to all three and all three made mistakes. Gopi is rectifying hers slowly. Ahem and Koki are yet to play catch-up.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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he mama's boy was an explanation to the question, what was the difference between Gopi separating Vidya and Koki doing the same. The fact that Koki is the grandmother and not the mother is the difference😊

Do u mean to say the mother has right to seperate more than the grandmother .

I was talking of the right of any individual , father , mother , grandfather , grandmother , to seperate a child from parent .

When the grandmother finds that the mother has ALREADY seperated the child from the house and her son , has no intention of giving it up , and says u all can see her when u have totally missed out on the growing process , when she is even more grown up , and is furious and decides to give daughter in law in same coin , she is wrong coz she by relation is a grandmother and not a mother ?

But i say even this anger is wrong . Whatever silly atrocious behaviour the mother has done , one has to lump it for the child . Which she ultimately did on Hetal's advice .

Same way , whatever your personal fights and blame games with your spouse u have no right to deprive child of the parental bondage of father .

Regarding the 'pushed' to leave the house , u know my thoughts .😊 I frown on zero tolerance level of barbs and words when kids r involved.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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I mean to say that a mother who has brought up a child for 8 long years has a right to claim her right against a grandmother who is out for revenge. 😊

It is her individual right too and she is emotionally involved.

From where I stand, I think Gopi did look out for her second child when she walked out. She did not walk out because she wanted to spite her MIL and hubby. She walked out and saved herself from the hellhole that her home had become, where she was treated like dirt and felt like one.

You know my views on that one😆

As for swallowing whatever comes her way for her own child, I think in the long run it would help the child more if the mother stood up and walked out instead of bowing down to abuse. The child got an environment where she grew up quite well. It would have been more injurious if Vidya had seen her mother being slighted by her own husband and her grandmother from day one. In the greater scheme of things Vidya surely did benefit. Her father loves her and she loves him back. She now has a mother who is stronger.

Gopi is currently swallowing everything that is getting thrown her way. She is doing it more ably now than before. From where I stand the ego is now only from one end.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

he mama's boy was an explanation to the question, what was the difference between Gopi separating Vidya and Koki doing the same. The fact that Koki is the grandmother and not the mother is the difference😊

Do u mean to say the mother has right to seperate more than the grandmother .

I was talking of the right of any individual , father , mother , grandfather , grandmother , to seperate a child from parent .

When the grandmother finds that the mother has ALREADY seperated the child from the house and her son , has no intention of giving it up , and says u all can see her when u have totally missed out on the growing process , when she is even more grown up , and is furious and decides to give daughter in law in same coin , she is wrong coz she by relation is a grandmother and not a mother ?

But i say even this anger is wrong . Whatever silly atrocious behaviour the mother has done , one has to lump it for the child . Which she ultimately did on Hetal's advice .

Same way , whatever your personal fights and blame games with your spouse u have no right to deprive child of the parental bondage of father .

Regarding the 'pushed' to leave the house , u know my thoughts .😊 I frown on zero tolerance level of barbs and words when kids r involved.




I hve been reading all the arguments for and against Gopi for leaving the house 8 years back. My thinking is the Gopi we knew 8 years ago never opened her mouth in front of her MIL or Ahem whether she was in the wrong or whether she was correct nor was she ever allowed to present her case in any situation with koki always saying BAS with her palms put up stopping Gopi from explaining anything ( I am not talking about the meera situation here at all). This being the case immediately after Meera incident with Koki accusing her, Ahem joining Koki, even if Gopi had at a later date tried to communicate with Koki/Ahem, they would not have entertained her not even bothering to listen to what she had to say. I am not saying that Gopi tried but even if she had tried they would not have entertained her. She was fighting a lost cause in trying to communicating anything, Koki's hatred saw to that and Gopi knew the way it was and probably that is why she did not try to inform any of them.She was not strong enough to insist on being listened to(The only way perhaps she could have made them listen to her was walking into MM 8 -9 months pregnant!! ) and once a thing is put off then it is too difficult to gather the courage to come right ahead and declare and face the consequences.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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I mean to say that a mother who has brought up a child for 8 long years has a right to claim her right against a grandmother who is out for revenge. 😊

JLT no mother or human being has a right to do illegal things . Hiding and staying with a child goes against u in court .

Many families do cases against bahus or damads who flee with the children leaving their spouses . What revenge is there in it . Revenge can be argued both ways in court , the bahus who do this are not doing revengeful acts against their husbands ? They r not removing their personal spite of the blame games by turning kids against them by ensuring they never live with them ?

Still i would not call Gopi spiteful . I call her pretty thoughtless .

Kokila has been wrong in many tracks . I can cite quite some , but here she is not out for revenge . As i see it , she is quite finished from inside . A part of her died when her grandchild died . Then she understood there was one more grandchild but they were never told about it . I Don't blame her incredulity . She has not even done court language yet . She kept aside her anger for the kid . She is quite deflated emotionally . Radha has hit her where it hurts . Radha had hit Urmilaben and Rashi where it hurts too for the Swayamji kaand . Unlike Gopi Radha knows exactly how to hit below the belt and win .




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Posted: 11 years ago
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Gopi is very stubborn. It was 8 years ago and people tend to forget exactly what made Gopi leave the Modi house. kokila might have forced Gopi to leave the house without telling her to leave in front of the other members of the family.
The day Meera went missing everyone except Kokila and Radha were crying. Radha was smiling with happiness.
Kokila was thinking of nothing except blaming Gopi for Meera's death. Gopi is so stupid that she did not disclose why she was in the danger area.
Even after 8 years Gopi is still not disclosing the reason for her and Meera being there on that day.

kokila is seeing Gopi as a killer , the one responsible for Meera's death and as a result she does not wish to eat or drink anythig prepared by Gopi.
Gopi should not obey Baa or Hetal They are the ones who wanted Radha to marry Ahem and Kokila agreed. Now they have changed sides and Baa just lets kokila rule everyone.
They should throw Radha out.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Gopi seems to be under Stockholm syndrome. Loving the people who torture her.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Ba is the most reasonable person in that household followed by Hetal. They are flexible. They wanted Radha as bahu because Radha tricked them. Now gopi has come with Vidya, they are so happy that they want to integrate her into the family.

Ahem obeys his mother but he does not do it fully. He married gopi because his mother selected her but he did not accept her for a long time. Now even if Kokila accepts gopi because she saved her life, ahem wont accept her easily.

Kokila is the Captain of the ship called Modi Bhavan and it seems that she is waiting for the right time to think about gopi's status. It is clear that Vidya can never take the place of Meera as for as Kokila and Ahem are concerned though they love her.

Now Urmi will slowly start her kalakari against gopi as now the fear of Radha has subsided.
She will slowly try to poison rashi against gopi. It will be interesting to see as to how long rashi can remain positive?

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