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Posted: 12 years ago
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I have a question. What exactly is redemption?
To me, it is about realizing one's mistake, taking responsibility of their actions and then trying to do the best to correct it.

Another mythological example 😳 When Dasaratha went hunting once, he actually shoots a boy near the river assuming him to be a deer. This boy is the only care giver of his blind and invalid parents. The boy before his death pleads with the king to take care of his parents.
The repentant king goes to the parents with the sad news and begs for forgiveness confessing his mistake. He does not get any. The parents are too distraught and they die out of sorrow. 😭 But not before telling the king that he will also have a similar fate.. He would die wanting to see his son one last time and never would.

In Ramayana, it is said that Dasaratha paid for his mistake(unintentional as it is but he took 3 lives) by dying without seeing Ram, Lakshman, Bharath or Shatrugnan.

So what has Rashi done in terms of redemption? Dasaratha knew that his mistake was costly. He could have run, leaving the parents alone in the woods and they would never have known what happened to their son. But he did not. The King owned up to his mistake, come whatever the consequences and then paid for it too..
So he was being stupid is it? Should he have just forgotten it and walked away? Maybe then he would not have had to face that curse.. This I think is Rashi's argument.


The truth is, if Rashi does not talk like miss goody two shoes, I think I can accept the fact than her justifying her horrible actions as something to do with 'smartness'. Guilt and a moral conscious to do the right thing may bring nothing but a sense of peace to a person. For some, it may be what they need and for some, it may look stupid.
But let us not confuse the lack of morality with smartness.. From what they have shown till now, the lack of a proper conscious and the cowardice to not own up to one's mistake is touted as Redemption.. How can it be?😕

If someone can throw some light on it please..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I wouldn't class it as redemption, Harini. Otherwise Rashi would have owned up and apologised for all her misdeeds. What she is doing here is self preservation. She knows that she has a better life at the Modis, so what better way than have Gopi and her conditions over a barrel and make it seem like she is doing her a favour. I would like to hint that in order to face the future anew one has to atone further past. In an average person that would be a normal emotion.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@ Harini and Xarini - Rashi a crafty manipulator, I'd second this.

Rashi is keeping Gopi in tow to her desires whilst meeting her needs with Hetal, Jigar and the rest at MM.

This silent torturing of Gopi is what should stop.

@ Deepa - interesting points raised. The week ahead will reveal more in Rashi's manipulation.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Swasthi fantastic topic and fabulous replies from everyone.⭐️

I do not see Rashi having a redemption. Here i agree with Harini, Xarina and partly Deepa, the points that Deepa raised i guess we will find out this week, as Deepa said the CVs had to show Gopi forgeting about Rashi somehow. I actually think this week we will see a jealous Rashi as Jigar will come home and show her a pic of Nikki aunty I will leave that for later.

I'm with Deepa on I want to know what Gopi will do when she realises that Rashi hasn't changed, I guess this week maybe a testing time for Rashi, as Koki will get hurt the first person to get blame may be Rashi. When the culpute is Nikki aunty well from the spoliers. What is the whole deal with nikki aunty hmm i think we will find out soon, I will raise that on the forum later

Its high time that Ahem found out some truths in regards to Rashi. We see that he doesn't like when Urmi bubbles on and his shaking of head and anger at some of the stuff Urmi has said.

I will leave it at that for know😊


Edited by Deepikz - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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great topic Swasti 👏

Rashi redemption is not what the CVs are aiming to .. Rashi saving Gopi was more of a closure of tiff between the sisters where neither loose or win ... they wanted to bring Rashi back to MM for which she is made to save Gopi .. and they hug and cry but does that mean Rashi is changed no .. if all it needed was Gopi's life to be on the verge of death.. she has the chance of redemption during Rashi kidnap and Gopis accident .. but that did not see the light of the day ,,,

and having said that... Rashi is changed when compared to her past where she physically and mentally hurt gopi intentionally ... she is not that anymore.. but one thing .. Rashi can never redeemed and turned into gopi .. as we don't want another gopi .. hence we will see one rashi who is different from gopi with subtle changes


Edited by munnihyderabad - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Munni, while I certainly agree that Rashi is not the cruel girl of the first year, she is still cruel. She may have avoided any physical harm on Gopi like she did before but her mental and emotional torture have not stopped.

Be it calling Gopi a gawar in her face and shooting from her mother's shoulders, be it using Gopi's weakness as an orphan to her benefit in the Vansh track, be it humiliating and insulting Gopi after the competition or be it calling her a Jethani in the Kumbh Mela, Rashi has used words to torture Gopi to the maximum and make her bend.

As a very smart manipulator, Rashi always has and even now has been using her words to emotionally weaken and torture Gopi. So as much as I agree that the physical torture has gone down, Rashi has not changed anyway

Rashi need not be Gopi. I do not want that at all. But I do need her to have a proper change and realize her mistake. There is a difference between telling Sorry because that serves a purpose to actually feeling sorry for ones action.

If the physical torture had stopped because Rashi felt wrong about what she did, then that is different. I am afraid that Rashi stopped physically torturing Gopi only because she was afraid that Gopi's growing intimacy with Ahem may expose her. Otherwise this would have continued even now.

What would be redemption though is for Rashi to stop her torturing and manipulations on Gopi altogether. It is all nice of her to say that Gopi is a good person just to have her way, but she is back to frowning and being irritated when Nikki praised Gopi just once. That is not something Rashi would do if she really felt sorry for her actions.

So no.. I do not think that there is any change. Rather, I can see Rashi going back to her original avatar if this continues🥱
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Very interesting viewpoints by all above.

Just to clarify, the word redemption means to redeem or save oneself from the ills, evils or sins. A synonym is salvation.

Whilst we can clearly see Ahem who can best support his Gopi, the changes of Rashi is also noted. However as Deepika said, the new character, Nikki, could add on a new twist to this.

However what still prevails is what Harini mentions, that Rashi still views Gopi as a gawar. This remains unchanged right from the start.

So, how could Rashi have changed? She continues to possessive extreme jealous and notable hatred towards Gopi that is invisible by the rest of the Modi's.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Harini

I am not into Rashi analysis like we used to do it before😛.. following the show but not into discussions.. 😕

anyways you will have more points to talk abt her in depth 😆...




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Posted: 12 years ago
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Aww Munni.. You take care girl.. 😛


There is something though that troubled me when I thought about it. I realized that I expected Dhawal to understand Kinjal's mistake with Falguni and forgive her while when Jigar did the same, I was angry that he did.

So that made me think if I was being prejudiced about Rashi and being too hypocritical.

But then it struck me that I was not wrong.. I feel sorry for Kinjal and angry at Dhawal's behavior because of the fact that Kinjal has confessed to her faults and what more is wholeheartedly working to correct her mistake (whether it is a mistake or not is another discussion)

In Rashi's case, I don't find that realization like Kinjal's. Unlike Kinjal Rashi did not realize the error of her ways. Nor was she humble enough to actually mean her apology.

No wonder I do not see any redemption.. And to add to that when Jigar fawns over her, it adds fuel to fire.. How will one redeem oneself when they know that it is not at all necessary to do so.. After all Rashi has everyone tied around her fingers. She reminds me partly of a character named Nandini in a tamil classic, only Nandini was far more intelligent and had a definite motive for playing with men..
Rashi on the other hand is aimless🤢
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I was watching dangerous liaisons (You go Glenn Close👏).
There is this last scene when the entire audience Boo's at her and she finally gets what she deserves.. I somehow have a feeling that this will happen to Rashi at one point of time and she will be shown completely redeemed after that.😕

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