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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sharad K. rocks

That was a good one. I don't care if he can rap or not, he is a great singer



"That was a good one"
Most certainly, it was a good example of failing to keep ignorance at bay. I never did doubt his singing ability. Terrific singer but errrmmmm til he learns the basics, he needs to eliminate the rapping as he is evidentally not vocally trained to deliver a rap. He needs plenty more lessons in that area (another Guru to love).

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Posted: 17 years ago
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His rapping was really good in Pyar Karke though!
And he definitely raps better than any other contestant on the show....I can't imagine Amanat or Raja or Sumedha or Poonam rapping!
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Gine aneek some time n relax..

he needs to rest now😆

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Posted: 17 years ago
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I teach in the inner city school district. My students are either in their junior or senior year. Lot of my students are aspiring to be a famous rap artist (caught writing the lyrics and practicing a lot in the classroom). I don't think all of them will make it but a lot of them trying their luck. My point is Aneek's talent may not match a lot of rap artists from here(african american accent needed) but obviously it was good enough to be accepted in saregamapa and declared the winner.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: ShishKebab



"Rapping is not rocket science." It's clearly an ignorant remark to make, possibly resulting from your failure to appreciate the vocal techniques and delivery needed to skilfully execute a rap.With that type of attitude (which I suspect Anik had the audacity to delude himself into thinking), it's no wonder that Aneek sounded exceedingly bad.

"Will rappers learn to sing a taraana?" I don't quite understand the logic of your second statement. Rapping and singing are both very powerful forms of expression and this question is really an individual choice rather than one's ability, be it a rapper or taraana singer, to master a particular art. The answer to this question therefore really depends on the vocal dexterity of the musical artist as well as their choice of vocal expression.


Yes, I maintain in my ignorance that rapping is not rocket science - and it is not something that is beyond Aneek who has such a strong base in classical music. Rhythm is an extremely important element of Hindustani classical music.

If Aneek can pull off the fast taanas in "Laaga Chunariya mein Daag" with such finesse, rap music is definitely attainable for him. What is rap? It is the reciting of words in a rhythmic manner in a certain style.

How on earth do you know what kind of attitude Aneek had while singing the rap song? 😆 You are talking about his audacity and delusion and what not.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: ShishKebab



"we may need more rappers than those having good knowledge of Indian music." This is a most bizarre and baffling statement and makes little sense. I fail to see why musical artists or in your case "rappers" not be synonymous with a good knowledge of Indian music. Isn't possible to study and learn about the various forms of Indian music and not be a "rapper" at the same time?

Please give a single example of a rap artiste having good knowledge of Indian music as well.

What i was trying to say that the Indian film music scenario has been diluted to such an extent that MDs nowadays are going for heavy westernisation of tunes with increasing unnecessary use of english words in song coupled with the stress on the use of software & synthesizers to create music instead of using traditional Indian instruments & maintaining the purity of lyrics & poetry.

Does we remember a single rap song which have lately hit the music scene of India, has any rap song created any impact in the minds of majority of Indian public.

When we have our own well established traditions of music in the form of Folk, classical, ghazal, Light music, qawwali, Rabindra sangeet, where is the pressing need to go gaga over something alien as rap music.


Your agreement with the previous comment also seems to reflect your ignorance of the rap artform. As with singing, rapping is an artform that requires years of practise and dedication to master. There's a significant difference between being able to do something and doing it very well. Clearly, Anik couldn't rap very well and thus was either delusional or misinformed into thinking that he had the vocal prowess to perform this feat to a high standard. He needs to book an appointment with the career adviser very soon!

As far as my knowledge of rap music is concerned, sorry to say that it has failed to make an impression on me exposed to Indian music from time immemorial.

Now coming to Aneek's rap flirtations,it need not be taken seriously when he has proved his calibre in the competition as a worthy competitor & winner.

By the way he is the only contestant who has attempted to sing rap which can't be said of the other lot.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: ShishKebab

If Anik is under the disillusionment that he is a singer who has talented rapping abilities then he may need to consider the possibility of seriously consulting a careers adviser. I applaud him for his brave but dismal attempt at uttering words in a rhythmic fashion but he clearly either needs to practise (in which case he would urgently need to be assigned to a rap guru for possibly a few decades) or he should refrain from rapping (which at this tsage of his career I would highly recommend to him).


tension maat lo..........😃 he is not in illusion. he was given that rap portion and he tried his best to do that. the other two dont even know that much. he is still a kid and he will do it better in future.😊
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: punjini


Yes, I maintain in my ignorance that rapping is not rocket science - and it is not something that is beyond Aneek who has such a strong base in classical music. Rhythm is an extremely important element of Hindustani classical music.

If Aneek can pull off the fast taanas in "Laaga Chunariya mein Daag" with such finesse, rap music is definitely attainable for him. What is rap? It is the reciting of words in a rhythmic manner in a certain style.

How on earth do you know what kind of attitude Aneek had while singing the rap song? 😆 You are talking about his audacity and delusion and what not.



Of course, I cannot say for certainty what kind of attitude Aneek had but if like you he holds the belief that rapping is a very simple artform to master, then he could well have deceived himself into thinking he could already be the next Indian version of KRS One.

"If Aneek can pull off the fast taanas in "Laaga Chunariya mein Daag" with such finesse, rap music is definitely attainable for him." Yes I agree but only with serious practise and dedication! It should naturally be obvious that even "masters" trained in the classical music such as Aneek have considerable difficulty in this form of expression.

If as you maintain that "rapping is not rocket science" and that Aneek has mastered the classical music, then I fail to understand why he struggled at rapping. My point is that it takes years to master a vocal artform such as rapping and Aneek has in no way attained the highest level. In fact, as I have maintained several times, he is absolutely atrocious and has just barely touched the first rung of the ladder in this artform. At the moment he needs to seriously develop and work on the rhythmic flow, delivery and lyrical evocation needed for this artform ie He needs practise and a quick visit to the careers adviser.

"Rhythm is an extremely important element of Hindustani classical music." Rhythm is also an important characteristic quality of the heart, something Anik lacks when he's rapping!!!

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Posted: 17 years ago
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"Please give a single example of a rap artiste having good knowledge of Indian music as well."

Panjabi MC.

Other well known artists known to have promoted rap music (though not technically rappers themselves) include Talvin Singh, Ravaliya, Dave Sharma. Plenty other lesser known musical artists out there if you search hard enough.

"where is the pressing need to go gaga over something alien as rap music." If you are referring to the art of "rapping" (as I do not understand your "rap music" terminology), I can answer by simply stating that it is possibly one of the most powerful forms of vocal expression which can be just as effective as singing WHEN executed properly.

"As far as my knowledge of rap music is concerned, sorry to say that it has failed to make an impression on me exposed to Indian music from time immemorial."

You keep emphasizing rap music but I am not exactly sure what rap music is! I am referring not to what you term as "rap music" but to the art of vocally expressing oneself by rhythmical intonations ie rapping.

"alien as rap music."

Well then it's about as alien as Qawwali would have been back at around I think the 8th century. Qawwali had its original roots in Persia and so that would mean that prior to the time of its introduction to India it also would have been deemed as alien music. The same also applies to ghazals.

" By the way he is the only contestant who has attempted to sing rap which can't be said of the other lot"

But my point here is not that he has attempted it, but that he has performed it at a very poor level which is somewhat surprising given his mastery of the classical music as pointed out by the previous commenter. Maybe, his mastery of the classical music just simply isn't enough !!

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Lets focus on what he has - He has a set of fans who worked day and night voting for him , creating software and what not.
At best he may need an image consultant when he jumps into the real world.

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