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Posted: 18 years ago
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The National Award wasn't widely understood then. It was not getting the Filmfare Award that really bothered my father. In the year when Mera Saaya was in the reckoning, he told us that all the issues of Filmfare had been bought. I'm not saying there was any cheating but when consumers had to fill in the coupons about their choices, it was so easy to manipulate the awards. I think my father lost out because he couldn't play such games.

My father was very sentimental. He cried easily. There was a very good arranger called Sonik who later became a composing duo with his nephew, Sonik-Omi. Sonik would arrange the songs for my father. Omi, who was the spokesperson of the two, said in an interview after my father died, that most of Madan Mohan's tunes were composed by Sonik. My question to them is--why didn't Sonik-Omi come up with one memorable tune when they were on their own?

My father's favourite sitar player was the renowned Rais Khan. If you've heard the Madan Mohan compositions carefully, you'd know that the sitar base is very crucial. Rais Khan claimed that he had composed all the sitar interludes. It's possible that he did. The point is, they sat together and worked in a room.

My father was so fond of Rais Khan that when there was a musical soiree at our home, he would invite Rais Khan to play the sitar. My father was too embarrassed to discuss money with his friend, so he told his manager to ask Rais Khan what kind of money he should be paid. Rais Khan took tremendous umbrage. A few days later, he called up my father and said there's a wedding at a friend's house and would my father like to sing there. If yes, how much money would he charge?

My father was very, very hurt. He decided that Rais Khan would never again play in his songs. From that day onwards, in 1972 to the day he died, the sitar disappeared from Madan Mohan's tunes.

He was a Sagittarian and completely emotional. My father never used the ghazal as a ghazal per se. He used it as a love song, a sad song etc. Like Zameen se hamen aasman par in Adalat and Aapko pyar chhupane ki buri aadat hai in Neela Aakash. At times, he even copied Western tunes. Like Dil dil se milakar dekho in Memsaab.

But because the ghazal was his forte he became typecast. Naushad goes on and on about the two ghazals from Anpadh -- Aap ki nazron ne samjha and Hai isi mein pyar ki abroo being equal to his entire oeuvre. I don't remember him saying that when my father was alive.

I'll tell you something about Naushad sa'ab. My father used to take us to his house for dinner every two or three months. I remember hearing the songs of K Asif's Love And God at Naushad sa'ab's house. On our way home my father praised his songs wholeheartedly.

I vividly remember attending a recording for the song Chhayee barkha bahaar in Chirag. While Lataji was at the mike, my father said, "See how I'm going to make her say chhayee." The word actually spreads itself out when she sings it.

It was a very tough song to put together. The musicians were making a lot of mistakes. Lataji had to sing it about 15 times to get it right in one take. I remember asking her if she was exhausted. She said, "What to do? Most of my biggest hits have been sung at my tired worst". Today, of course, it isn't like that. Everything is dubbed.

For the doli song in Heer Ranjha, the main theme was derived from traditional sources. But all the antaras were my father's, I remember everyone was crying at the end of the recording. Kaifi Azmi, his wife Shaukat, Chetan Anand. They all went up to Lataji and my father to say, "You made us cry."

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Posted: 18 years ago
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The song Aapki nazron ne samjha (Anpadh) was composed by my father in two minutes during the lift journey from the ground floor to the fifth floor of our building. I remember the moment when my father almost in a trance, shut his eyes and started singing to himself. When the lift reached our apartment, he rushed to the harmonium to complete the tune.

The song Naina barse in Woh Kaun Thi was composed in the early '50s. But it wasn't found suitable for any film until Woh Kaun Thi. Raj Khosla and my father mutually agreed that it would be right for the ghost story. At the time of the recording, Lataji was unwell. So the song was filmed on Sadhana in my father's voice, and redubbed later.

My father's first big commercial break was Bhai Bhai in 1956. I remember my mother telling me that I was lucky for him since it was the year I was born.

He was particularly fond of the song Yeh duniya yeh mehfil in Heer Ranjha because of the variety in arrangement. His own favourite composition was Sawan ke mahine main from Sharabi. He would sing the song for his friends at private gatherings. Perhaps he identified with the lyrics.

Lataji was the last word for him. I remember Asha Bhosle came for a recording of a cabaret song. She asked my father in front of me, "Madan bhaiyya, this song is nice but who's singing the other songs?" When my father told her that it was Lataji, Ashaji bluntly asked, "Why can't I sing them?" And my father replied, "Jab tak Lata hai Lata hi gayegi." That didn't make Ashaji very happy.

The point is, he was very honest. Lataji and my father had no other relationship except that of a brother and sister. When he would be asked why he was besotted with Lata Mangeshkar, my father would reply, "Why only me? S.D. Burman, Naushad, C.Ramachandra, Roshan, Shankar-Jaikishen are all besotted with her. Are they all mad?"

To make the world believe that Sharda was a better singer than Lataji and Ashaji required a lot of guts. The joke in those days was, love isn't only blind, it's also deaf. It wasn't just my father who said that Lataji was the best. It was the world. O.P. Nayyar said his style of composing suited Shamshad Begum, Geeta Dutt and Asha Bhosle. Possibly he changed his style.

Because the fact remains that for the first film he ever signed he wanted Lataji to sing. But something obviously went wrong and he swore that he would become successful without Lataji. That was wonderful. I respect and admire O.P. Nayyar's achievements. What I can never forget about Lataji is that after my father died, she became closer to us than before, even though she had nothing to gain from us. She looked after us children completely after my mother died. When I got married, she sent the invitation cards out in her name. Today, I want to be there for her if she needs my help.

Coming back to my father, he scored his biggest hit, Laila Majnu, after his death. It was probably his weakest score though. Lataji tells us that he was often off-colour since he had too much to drink during the recordings. Lataji did tell him to get a grip on himself. But dad's frustrations in the last couple of years of his life had become too much to bear. Ironically, his best- remembered songs are from films released after his death -- Mausam and Laila Majnu.

I discovered my father's genius at the age of 16 when I accidentally found tapes of his songs in the cupboard. I heard all his released and unreleased songs on master tapes. I realised his worth. I discovered in the tapes that he had composed ten different tunes for the same song. For example, there were literally ten tunes for Dil dhoondta hai in Mausam. I realised there was still so much more to his genius than what the world had heard.

Today we're no longer called the Madan Mohan family. I never tell anyone I'm his son. One has to come into one's own.

Edited by *dolly* - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Madan Mohan's songs

Aye dil mujhe bata de
Bhai Bhai
Geeta Dutt

Phir wohi shaam
Jahan Ara
Talat Mehmood

Rang aur noor ki baraat
Ghazal
Mohammed Rafi

Kar chale hum fidaa
Haqeequat
Mohammed Rafi

Jhumka gira re
Mera Saaya
Asha Bholse

Teri aankhon ke siwa
Chirag
Mohammed Rafi

Tum jo mil gaye ho toh
Hanste Zakham
Mohammed Rafi, Lata Mangeshkar

Dil dhoondta hai phir wohi
Mausam
Bhupendra

Main tere dar pe aaya hoon
Laila Majnu
Mohammed Rafi

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Thanks a lot salil and dolly!

Great post.. amazing MD 👏 👏
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Filmfare -- July 2000 issue...

HIS MUSIC TOUCHED MY SOUL



Lata Mangeshkar recalls Bhaiyya Madan Mohan

The point driven home by Lata Mangeshkar's recent con-cert in Mumbai was that the Lata-Madan Mohan combi- nation was unbeatable. From Unko yeh shikayat hai ki hum kuch nahin kehte to Main to tum sang nain milake and Lag ja gale se to Ruke ruke se qadam, every single Lata-Madan Mohan composition is timeless. To find out more about the creative genius who never got his due in his lifetime, I spoke to his melodious muse. Over to Lata Mangeshkar: It seems like yesterday when I first met Madan bhaiyya. I'd just started my career as a playback singer and had gone to Filmistan studio for a recording. That's where we met. He was the son of the owner of Filmistan stu he saw little recognition in his lifetime. Today, after he's gone, no other composer is admired as much as he is dio, I think he was an assistant music director at the time. We sang a song about love between a sister and brother for Shaheed. The song was neither featured in the disc nor the film. Perhaps it was meant to bring Madan bhaiyya and me together.
S
oon after this incident, he came home on Raksha Bandhan and de clared, "Tuney aur maine bhai-bahen ka gaana gaaya hai. Tu mujhe raakhi baandh." The year was 1948. How time flies! After some months, Madan bhaiyya bagged his first assignment as a music director, Aankhen. I don't know why, but I told him I wouldn't sing for him in Aankhen. I turned him down without even listening to his compositions. I don't know what was wrong with me. Perhaps I did that because I was busy running around trying to consolidate my career. I used to live at Grant Road. Every day I'd catch a local train and head for the other end of town to Malad, Andheri or Goregaon. Maybe I said no to Madan bhaiyya's first film because I didn't have time. He was very hurt. "Tu raakhi baandhti hai aur tuney mere hi gaane ko na kahaa?" Anyway I started singing for him thereafter and never stopped. Madhosh, Adaa, Baaghi were some of his early films that I sang for. Dekh Kabira Roya was one of our earliest hits. His songs would almost invariably succeed even though the films didn't always run. One day he came to me and said, "Main Punjab jaa rahaa hoon shaadi karne." He showed me a picture of my bhabhi-to-be and asked whether I liked her. I said she was very pretty. After the wedding, he held a small reception in Mumbai. Naushad saab, Suraiya and I were some of the invitees. I even have a photograph of the occasion. I became a regular visitor at Madan bhaiyya's home in Khar. Soon his children were born. He loved to cook and enjoyed good food. He frequented our home too. His home was very close to my new one. His son Sanjeev still lives there.

He also had another flat opposite his residence which we used for rehearsals. He would compose a tune and con duct a small rehearsal right there in his home. Madan bhaiyya always gave his singers the freedom to improvise. I had the same freedom while working with Shankar-Jaikishen, especially for Raj Kapoor's films. Did I put in a special effort for Madan bhaiyya's tunes? I try to put in a special effort for every composer. The songs I sing are mine, aren't they? But Madan bhaiyya's tunes were different from the music prevalent in those days.

There were so many stalwarts back then. Each had his own individual style. Everyone did his best even though the remuneration wasn't all that attractive. Work in itself was the reward. There was no backstabbing or bitching. A composer once said, "It's hard to decide whether Lata Mangeshkar's voice was made for Madan Mohan's compositions, or vice-versa." Perhaps I have the knack of knowing exactly what a composer wants. But there's one more thing: if the song is good, the singer is inspired to sing well. Madan bhaiyya's ghazals were unlike anything I've ever heard in my life. I've never heard such ghazals by anyone else, neither have I sung such compositions for any other composer. His style of composition was unique. He knew a little bit of classical music since he had heard many distinguished artistes like Bade Ghulam Ali Khan while working at a radio station. To compose like Madan bhaiyya was a gift from God. His music touched my soul. He knew precisely how to phrase a ghazal. Why just ghazals? He composed many beautiful songs for me like Ja re badra bairi jaa and Jiya le gayo re maro sanwariya. But his ghazals were a class apart." People thought of him as hot-headed. But he was a softie. Whenever he felt very hurt or very happy, he'd have tears in his eyes. He was very possessive about the people whom he loved. But to express one's feelings for others is also an art. Madan bhaiyya lacked that ability. He couldn't express his love for others. I could understand his feelings and attitudes. But those who didn't know him well couldn't understand him. He never ran after awards or recognition. But when he didn't get the Filmfare award for Woh Kaun Thi he was upset. I remember we were recording some days after his mother's death. I told him how sorry I was that he didn't get the Filmfare award for Woh Kaun Thi I felt he deserved


DID OTHER singers really resent my tuning
with Madan bhaiyya? Fortunately,
such talk never reached my ears


Anpadh Woh Kaun Thi Dastak Mausam ing with Madan bhaiyya? Fortunately, such talk never reached my ears (laughs). He perhaps felt, "Jo main apne gaane mein chahta hoon woh shaayad Lata kar sakti hai." He would always say, "Tu mujhe na mat kaha kar." Since I used to be so busy in those days I used to be exhausted. In addition, there was the sinus problem. So even Madan bhaiyya's recordings would get cancelled. Iwas very famous for that, you know. Composers would say, "Lata ki re-cording hai. Pataa nahin hogi ya nahin."' Even if my sinusitis surfaced slightly I would cancel my recording. Singing With the Woh Kaun Thi heroine Sadhana

PEOPLE thought of him as hot-headed. But he was a softie. Whenever he felt very hurt or very happy, he'd have tears in his eyes

it more than any other nominee that year. He replied, "Tu mere liye yeh sochti hai yehi mera award hai." I remember when he recorded the song Naina barse rim jhim for Woh Kaun Thi, the whole thing became quite a joke. I was indisposed with a severe attack of sinusitis. He shot the song on Sadhana in Shimla in his own voice. Onlookers were stupefied. Later I dubbed the song. Even when he recorded Maai ri in Dastak, I was ill. Because of my sinus problem I often had to cancel recordings. Some composers chose to get their numbers recorded by others. Others waited for me, even demolishing sets if I wasn't up to it.

Believe it or not, all those melodies that make you swoon were re corded after very few rehearsals. Neither Madan bhaiyya nor I had the time for too many rehearsals. Just one or two rehearsals, that's it. He never moped about the lack of recognition. But deep within he was determined to prove his worth.


He saw little recognition in his lifetime.
Today, after he's gone, no other composer
is admired as much as he is.


He was perhaps destined to be recognised after his death.

Singing without any technical support in those days was no easy task. And I wasn't willing to compromise on the quality of my singing one bit. I remember some time before his death he came to a recording with his head and arm swathed in bandages. I was disturbed. He said he'd been in a road accident at Khandala. Though his injuries were quite serious, he still went ahead with the recording. I had gone to the United States for my concerts. On my way back, when I was in London, Someone told me told that a very big music director had passed away. He didn't know the name. I rang up home. Only then did I get to know that Madan bhaiyya was no more. It was a very major personal loss for me. We were like one big family. Even his wife loved me a lot. Whenever they quarrelled, I would mediate between the couple. My relationship with Madan bhaiyya was everlasting. Composer Chitragupta was another family friend. All of us Mangeshkars visited his home regularly and he visited ours too. He wasn't a topnotch music director. But he was highly educated. I was the one to name Chitragupta's son Milind. I loved singing Chitragupta's tunes. Another abiding relationship I shared was with Majrooh saab (Sultanpuri). We were very close. Whenever he was troubled, he shared his problems with me. I remember when I was seriously ill in 1966, Majrooh saab came to visit me every day for several months. He would sit by my side, recite his shayari, have his meal, inquire about my medicines. Not just Majrooh saab, but his wife and children visited as well. Lekin ab Majrooh saab aur Madan bhaiyya jaise log kahan?

Edited by *salil* - 18 years ago
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you tube links
Aap Ki Nazaron Ne - Lata

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdB9j-G8eBM

Woh Chup Rahe To - Lata Mangeshkar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaTUPL5UnPg


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From: "FILMFARE":

Gulzar : Dil ki Dastaan
(by ANURADHA CHOUDHARY)


Gulzar on how this haunting song was written, composed and visualised:

The lyrics were inspired by one of Ghalib's couplets, Jee dhoondta hai phir wohi fursat ke raat din. In the couplet, Ghalib dreams about his beloved and longs for days of leisure. I tried to recreate that feel and explore the concept of leisure I imagined he was talking about. I took that one line and developed the idea. And I ended up defining leisure as it meant to me.

I was extremely lucky to have worked with a stalwart like Madan Mohan on this tune. Madan Mohan belonged to an era when maestros were treated like maestros. Such was his reputation that every singer, be it Lataji or Ashaji, would go to his music room for rehearsals much before the scheduled recordings.

I've heard Lataji say his notes would keep changing with every rehearsal; it was, of course, said with a lot of respect. He would work so creatively on a single tune that he would exhaust all variations and permutations of notes.

He worked out four tunes for Dil dhoondta hai and finally chose one. The decision was entirely his own. Yeh nahin ki the director or singer said they liked it, so he chose it. He would play you any number of tunes, but he'd decide which was the best. Incidentally, Sanjeev Kohli, his son, has recently released a CD, which contains all the four tunes of Dil dhoondta hai.

Lyrics of Dil Dhoondta Hai :

Dil dhoondta hai phir wahi fursat ke raat din - (2)
baithe rahe tasavvur-e-jaanaan kiye hue
Dil dhoondta hai phir wahi fursat ke raat din...
Jaadon ki narm dhoop aur aangan mein letkar - (2)
aankhon pe khinchkar tere aanchal ke saaye ko
aundhe pade rahe kabhi karwat liye hue
Dil dhoondta hai phir wahi fursat ke raat din...
Ya garmiyon ki raat jo purvaiyaan chalein - (2)
thandi safed chaadaron pe jaageen der tak
taaron ko dekhte rahen chhat par pade hue
Dil dhoondta hai phir wahi fursat ke raat din...
Barfili sardiyon mein kisi bhi pahaad par - (2)
vaadi mein gunjati hui khamoshiyaan sune
aankhon mein bhige bhige se lamhe liye hue
Dil dhoondta hai phir wahi fursat ke raat din...

If you're wondering how Jee dhoondta hai became Dil dhoondta hai that, again, was Madanji's work. When he composed the tune, he changed the word. I was horrified, how dare anyone take such liberties with Ghalib? But then Madanji showed me a publication where the couplet had appeared as Dil dhoondta hai. It wasn't as if he changed the word on his whim. Madan Mohan knew what he was talking about. Most music directors those days knew a lot of poetry by heart. So Dil dhoondta hai it remained.

The song had two versions: one was a duet and the other, a solo. The duet was a happy tune while the solo, in Bhupinder's voice, was sad and nostalgic. The solo remains my favourite. Yet, the duet has been appreciated by a number of connoisseurs. They say it's a difficult number to sing, that it has a difficult taal. I'm sure they know better, but me, I love the solo.

The duet was picturised on Sanjeev Kumar and Sharmila Tagore, and I decided to do so with an overlap of the past and present. So, as Sanjeev revisits his familiar haunts, his memories of precious moments with Sharmila play alongside. Each scene had to be filmed twice because we had to shoot the young and old Sanjeev. So with every shot, we had to do a make-over on him. We used the masking technique to picturise the song on screen. It was quite innovative, I thought, and it was the first time this technique was used. It went on to become the highlight of the song.
The other memory I have of shooting that song is that of Bosky. She was just knee-high then and was with me in Pehelgam, Kashmir while we shot the song. It was fun having her around.

Sometimes when I look back, I really wish we could work with similar kind of leisure on our songs now. Jee dhoondta hai phir wohi fursat ke raat din. Kash phir wohi Kashmir ho gaana banane ke liye, gaana likhne ke liye.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: *salil*

This is one of the best tribute documentaries I have seen. A must see for those who haven't seen this before. Rich tributes paid by:

Lata Mangeshkar
Yash Chopra
Javed Akhtar
Sonu Nigam
Udit Narayan
Roop Kumar Rathod
....and many others

Making of Veer Zara songs -Tribute to Madan Mohan (30 min. total)

This contains many of Veer Zara's song tunes in Madan-ji's voice recorded more than 30 years back.

Part1 Part2 Part3


I must see this as soon as I get time. Thanks Salilji!
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Posted: 18 years ago
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I wish Madan Mohan had used Asha a little more. I think he was under the impression that she could only sing fast songs.
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Originally posted by: *dolly*

you tube links
Aap Ki Nazaron Ne - Lata

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdB9j-G8eBM

Woh Chup Rahe To - Lata Mangeshkar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaTUPL5UnPg


more you tube links

Jhumka gira re - Mera saaya

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMghF-0mi5I

Teri aankhon ke siwa
Chirag
Mohammed Rafi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-2TkN8pWlw

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