How much you know about Carnatic Music - Page 3

13.How is a thala different from rhythm?

Carnatic music has one of the most complex thala systems among the world's music systems. Both in terms of the mathematical ranges and rhythmic varieties or thalams used, Carnatic music has no parallel.

Tala is bascially a time-measure and it is executed in cyclical pattern. concept. Therefore, it has a beginning and an end and is repeated until the composition ends.

When a tala cycle is sub-divided into units of time - e.g. 4, 8, 6, 16, 9 etc. - various thalams are produced.

In Carnatic music, the complex structure of the thala system has contributed to the development of rhythm and to the art of percussion.

Because of the thala strucutres, the role of a percussionist in Carnatic music (e.g. mridangam player) is far more intense and demanding than in any other system of music. The percussionist in the Carnatic music system does not merely keep time and provide the basic sarva laghu (four-beats). The percusionist must go beyond time-keeping and must judiciously and dexterously bring out the mood and emotion of a composition. Therefore, the percussionist would play a variety of mathematically-timed rhythmic patterns. This requires that the percussionist undergo significant training not only in producing various rhythmic patterns but also in developing musical acumen to know when a certain rhythmic pattern will be appropriate.

14.In a Sulapdi Saptha scheme of thalas, how many thalas are available?

the Sulapdi Sapta Thala scheme is also called the 35-thala scheme.

This scheme begins with seven basic thalas. The thalams differ from each other because of the the laghus (hit and finger counts), druthams (hit and wave), and anudruthams (wave only) within them.

The following table illustrates the basic seven talas.

16.Thalas are named in two parts - first part representing the jati and the second the name of the thala. If I say, Kanta Jati Triputa, would you be able to say how many units or aksharas it has? Similarly, what are the aksharas for the other thalas.

Drutam represents 2 units.

kanta jati has 5 units

and triputa talam has 100 angam

in this case 1 represents kanta laghu 5 and 0 reprents drutam

Kanta jati triputa Triputa talam has a kanta laghu (a beat followed by four finger counts = 5) followed by a dhrutham (a hit and a wave or a count of 2 aksharas) and one more dhrutham (2 aksharas) for a total count of 9 aksharas

in below iam writing for kanta jati only , it will different for other jatis..

Talam Name &n bsp; Angam Aksharam

1.Dhruva talam 1 0 1 1 17

2.Matya talam & nbsp; 1 0 1   ; 12

3.Roopaka talam 0 1   ; 7

4.Jhampa talam 1 U 0   ; 8 ( U is anudrutamand represents 1 unit)

5.Triputa talam 1 0 0   ; 9

6.Ata talam & nbsp; 1 1 0 0   ; 14

7.Eka talam & nbsp; 1   ; 5

Originally posted by: egghatcher

hmmmmmmmmmmm 😉😛 is there a compromise here .......for western hindustani or western carnatic for moi...... i am from Mumbai😆

😆 No, Taran, there is no compromise, I think it is level of confidence. On Hindustani music, since we kind of grow with you so familarity is more. THanks Dolly for giving us this informative thread😊

Originally posted by: egghatcher

wow. that is such a anti -rudyard kiplingisque statement ...... the east met west , the north meets south .. and he thought this would not happen😛 emancipation is the chance one should give to all truly.. and what better medium but through music ....... please refer to an universal topic begun by barnali where music transcends everything to emerge through colours even.. off course they are still debating why the ga is not coloured and da is dark ( due to being incharge of black hole)

I think the above statement is not dividing music , just giving light to its diferents stream. Ga is usually referred to golden, If I am not mistaken. Yes music cannot be divided but has its own form. It is the familarity, like Arabic stream line is not too unfamiliar with us, (although it is neither Hindustani or Carnatic.) as we are introduced to it. TO me it is familarity and it doe snot mean the songs cannot touch your heart if you are unfamiliar with its formation. Most Carnatic clasical are complicated Raag wise (For me) but they sound awesome. With no knowledge of language, we still enjoy them (Although few hindi songs, despite of knowledge of their formation, we may not like them)

Originally posted by: dolly

thank you everyone for coming to this thread.. 😊

17.What is Venkatamukhi's greatest contribution to music theory?

Venkatamakhi codified the Indian music ragas into 72 melakarta or parent ragas. He provided a framework that allows ragas to be classified into precise mathematical and arithmetical scales. He formulated the raga scheme in the sixteenth century.

THankd Dolly to you😛

honestly speaking I donot have knowledge of any form of music.Iam sort of pushed into this 😆 ..because at present Iam taking my son to a guru to learn some music and tabla.And I thought it will beneficial for me if I know few things myself so I can quiz him ( beleive me quizing a 5 yr old is not easy) 😆 😆