Breathing Basics for Singing - Page 6

Originally posted by: srgmp-fan

please don't start direct personal attack towards me. If you have something to say about any contestant, any fact-- good or bad,then go ahead,I don't see a problem with that.

BTW, all contestants are in legal and specified age bracket of the contest. If you feel Sameer is not at par with Sanchita & Diwakar, then bad luck. He can try again after 3 years-- why deprive other innocent contestants now?

He's not trying attack u... he's just saying that if u're just gonna keep bashing sameer... then we sameer fans shud just control our anger... cuz fighting never solves anything! that's it... y do u keep thinking that everything is about u???

Originally posted by: ani11

How can u determine if its a false campaigning.

The campaign for sameer and diwaker is as true as urs is for sanchita.

Why would the sameer fans falsely campaign for him.Sameer is not a political leader who is going to give them high posts once he wins the election.so how can u say its false.Please try to respect other's judgement as well.Just because it is different from u does'nt mean its false.

the only truth is that 2+2=4(no one can get a different answer for this equation except sunny(SDK)😆).The point is that this is music ,there is no right and wrong,no true and false.This world is a hard place for the people who are not able to accept that there is an intelligence,logic and reason behind a judgement which is different from theirs.

oops quoted myself by mistake😕😆

Originally posted by: ani11

How can u determine if its a false campaigning.

The campaign for sameer and diwaker is as true as urs is for sanchita.

Why would the sameer fans falsely campaign for him.Sameer is not a political leader who is going to give them high posts once he wins the election.so how can u say its false.Please try to respect other's judgement as well.Just because it is different from u does'nt mean its false.

the only truth is that 2+2=4(no one can get a different answer for this equation except sunny(SDK)😆).The point is that this is music ,there is no right and wrong,no true and false.This world is a hard place for the people who are not able to accept that there is an intelligence,logic and reason behind a judgement which is different from theirs.

all right.. point taken.

so how do you classify misleading posts that point to age of contestants. I feel it is in bad taste. We all agree, that all contestants are in legal and specified age bracket of the contest. If someone feels Sameer is not at par with Sanchita & Diwakar, then bad luck. He can try again after 3 years-- why deprive other innocent contestants now?

Originally posted by: srgmp-fan

all right.. point taken.

so how do you classify misleading posts that point to age of contestants. I feel it is in bad taste. We all agree, that all contestants are in legal and specified age bracket of the contest. If someone feels Sameer is not at par with Sanchita & Diwakar, then bad luck. He can try again after 3 years-- why deprive other innocent contestants now?

I understand what u are saying,although it is a fact that sameer is 3 years younger to the other too but if someone uses this excuse to vote for sameer and the excuse of handicap for diwaker to vote,that will be wrong.Similarly if someone votes for sanchita because she is the only girl left in the competition then that will be wrong too.

We have to look at the singing right at this point not what it is going to be after a few years.I think most of the people who are campaigning for sameer are going for his talent rather than his age.What u consider as talent in a reality singing competition may differ for different people,for some it can be only singing while for some it can be a combination of singing ,stage presence,audience interaction.You can't blame anyone for their criterion.

I don't think any of sameer or diwaker fans are saying that vote for sameer because he is the youngest or vote for diwaker because he can't see.

Originally posted by: srgmp-fan

He can try again after 3 years-- why deprive other innocent contestants now?

Many of us Sanchita fans also feel that even though she is a good singer, she is lacking in presentation which in turn results at times in her getting less votes. So does this mean Sanchita should get out of the competition and come back after three years when she has mastered presentation ?

Why is it so difficult for you to understand that the one you are finding ordinary is seen as extraordinary by others.

You cannot deny if there is a concert,Sameer will rock the stage, because he has the presence.

Diwakar sings from his heart, is very original and his songs touch the heart.

Sanchita is sur taal note perfect, but lacks in presentation.

So...they all lack something and possess something.What is liked by you may not be liked by another one. But that does not make the other one any lesser.Its mass choice in a free democratic country.If they want Sameer, they will vote him.If they want Sanchiota they will vote for her.If they want Diwakar they will vote for him.All of them have the potential.All of them has a future. We as Fans can talk of the singing merit of the one we are supporting. we dont have to highlight the other two's negative to showcase that.All have eyes and ears.They can see and hear.They can decide their choice.

We as individuals should decide for ourselves, not try imposing views on another one.Just because my POV doesn't agree with yours doesn't make mine wrong or your right.So you deciding anyone who votes for other two is doing for all the wrong reasons is again wrong.

Lataji sings brilliantly.But there are some of us who like Asha ji's songs a little more.Md.Rafi sahab is a legend ,so is Kishor kumar . But some of us may prefer one over the other.Its called personal choice.

Ani & Adi- thanks for taking time to write enlightening ideas and POVs. We'll have to agree to dis-agree on Adi's stage presence point.

I know, I am not as modest and diplomatic as you both sound to me (this is a compliment).

Originally posted by: srgmp-fan

all right.. point taken.

so how do you classify misleading posts that point to age of contestants. I feel it is in bad taste. We all agree, that all contestants are in legal and specified age bracket of the contest. If someone feels Sameer is not at par with Sanchita & Diwakar, then bad luck. He can try again after 3 years-- why deprive other innocent contestants now?

Yes, to say Sameer should benefit as he is younger then others is really in bad taste. In competition it is competition. If you are in that age group then you are. If Sammer is younger to compete with Sachita, then so be it. THis cannot give him plus point. Those who think that, they should have Sameer come agter three years then or let him compete now and take this critism in positive way. he has this problem so he has.

Actually this tim I saw a better critiscm from SRGM-fan then usual criticism from others which are mostly of look,clothes,hair 😉 etc.😃

Originally posted by: adi_0112

Many of us Sanchita fans also feel that even though she is a good singer, she is lacking in presentation which in turn results at times in her getting less votes. So does this mean Sanchita should get out of the competition and come back after three years when she has mastered presentation ?

Why is it so difficult for you to understand that the one you are finding ordinary is seen as extraordinary by others.

You cannot deny if there is a concert,Sameer will rock the stage, because he has the presence.

Diwakar sings from his heart, is very original and his songs touch the heart.

Sanchita is sur taal note perfect, but lacks in presentation.

So...they all lack something and possess something.What is liked by you may not be liked by another one. But that does not make the other one any lesser.Its mass choice in a free democratic country.If they want Sameer, they will vote him.If they want Sanchiota they will vote for her.If they want Diwakar they will vote for him.All of them have the potential.All of them has a future. We as Fans can talk of the singing merit of the one we are supporting. we dont have to highlight the other two's negative to showcase that.All have eyes and ears.They can see and hear.They can decide their choice.

We as individuals should decide for ourselves, not try imposing views on another one.Just because my POV doesn't agree with yours doesn't make mine wrong or your right.So you deciding anyone who votes for other two is doing for all the wrong reasons is again wrong.

Lataji sings brilliantly.But there are some of us who like Asha ji's songs a little more.Md.Rafi sahab is a legend ,so is Kishor kumar . But some of us may prefer one over the other.Its called personal choice.

Voting is done on the basis of singing ability although in most cases it is not done so. But yes it is personal choice to who you vote for. A healthy criticism is better then plain appreciation which is more on flattering lines. You cannot not critice someone who is voting others based on different criteria.

And yes again we cannot compare these legends to the kids..ASHA/LATA, Rafi ji and Kishore they also might have had this problem as kids who knows, but when they became big, they were the best😆

Originally posted by: Swar_Raj

A healthy criticism is better then plain appreciation which is more on flattering lines.

A criticism presented in the right way can yeild much better results than being brutally honest.

For example see Diwakar. Bappida was not brutally honest to him, but he encouraged and mentored Diwakar.Showed him the finer points with subtlety and what did we get in just 2 weeks time- a brilliant performance today, from what i hear he was truly good today.

So it is also the end result that matters. The criticism, if it yeilded any fruit or not or left a bad taste in the mouth is of paramount importance..

A judge needs to guide , take the participant through the nuances of finer points to make him or her understand the flaws himself /herself.

To a grade 3 student who has done a sum incorrectly ,if we say...you are dumb..got the sum wrong...it will scare him off maths forever. However, if to the same kid we say, oh no...what happend here...come lets try it again and see why it went wrong..bad sum...see the difference,he will do it, not only do, next time also he will be correct and the point which he had missed out earlier would have also got rectified.

Approach is the name of the game. And this approach is totally age dependent.

Originally posted by: adi_0112

A criticism presented in the right way can yeild much better results than being brutally honest.

For example see Diwakar. Bappida was not brutally honest to him, but he encouraged and mentored Diwakar.Showed him the finer points with subtlety and what did we get in just 2 weeks time- a brilliant performance today, from what i hear he was truly good today.

So it is also the end result that matters. The criticism, if iot yeilded any fruit or not or left a bad taste in the mouth.

A judge needs to guide , take the participant htrough the nuances of finer points to make him or her understand the flaws himself herself.

To a grade 3 student who has done a sun incorrectly we say...you are dumb..got the sum right...it will scare him off maths forever. However, if to the same kid we say, oh no...what happend here...come lets try it again and see why it went wrong..bad sum...see the difference,he will do it, not only do, next time also he will be correct and the point which he had missed out earlier got rectified.

Adi are you trying to get the meaning of what I said??? Kiddo, Even i said that a healthy criticism is better or you are trying to make it clear to others here what I wrote. But yes criticsm like this cn help a person to overcome power and that is the reason i hate for Diwaker too when he gets sympathy vote. it is better no to vote then . See his capability, you find him better then others...vote for him. Although in coming years he will be a star and right now he is better then Sameer and lower then Sanchita.

Always remeber, sometimes a friend who helps you can be your enemy too as he did not let you struggle. So always take healthy criticism in a positive way😛