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Posted: 18 years ago
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Jaadoo, Mara Bhai he is # 1 Besharam
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: sareg

NO SOUP FOR PRITAM

That's call news….MD Pritam in soup Kintu..prantu in what soup is he in….hope its Chinese one….( Coz u get varieties in here)

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Posted: 18 years ago
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all indian mds are copycats
its only who get caught that matter

do u really think ppl are really willing to fight 20 yr court cases in india for plagiarism

bollywood has to thank the indian judicial system otherwise each and every writer /music director/ director /producer would be penniless fighting all the lawsuits and paying compensation


the law of IP(intectual property) is so weak in india that one judgement(prithviraj kapoor(prithvi theatres) vs some writer of a play) said that there is no copyright violation because the play was in a different language than hindi
that means if u translate the dialouges of a movie/serial u are virtually free from the risk of piracy.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: leoni

That's call news….MD Pritam in soup Kintu..prantu in what soup is he in….hope its Chinese one….( Coz u get varieties in here)

Dont know if you watch Sienfeld, this was an oblique reference to an episode

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Shikdum [Dhoom (2004)] <TC>
Lifted off Turkish singer Tarkan's 'Sikidim'.
Listen to Shikdum | Sikidim
Yes, a direct lift. Had previously mentioned this as being inspired by 'Simarik' thanks to the confusion caused by Indian TV channels over that song. But this particular song is lifted straight of 'Sikidim'. A lesser known indi-pop singer, Sanjay Raina, has alleged that the track was a lift from his track by the same name that was part of his 1996 album, 'Hungama'. As a response, Pritam lets his cat out of the bag, and says that he was inspired by Tarkan's track and not Sanjay's! While I have not been able to get Sanjay's number, here are the other 2 tracks! And, if Sanjay's tune does sound similar to these tracks then its got to be first of the 3 since Tarkan's song was released as part of his 1999 album, 'Olurum Sana'. (Report in IndiaFM, Hindustan Times)
Trivia: This is one error that's still doing the rounds. Tarkan has a couple of chartbusters in his 1999 album, 'Olurum Sana' (Meaning, 'I'd die for you'). One of them was Simarik, that had an interesting music video shot amidst narrow lanes and a group of girls try to kiss Tarkan. This song got a lot of airtime in Indian channels and for some strange reason every channel got the name of this song wrong - they claimed the song's name was 'Sikidim', while Sikidim was another different song in the same album.
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'Zahreeli raatein', 'Bheega bheega sa' & 'Halka halka sa' [Chocolate (2005)] <TC>
Lifted off Jal's 'Aadat', Abrar-ul-Haq's 'December' & Jesse Cook's 'Breeze from Saintes Maries', respectively!
Listen to Zahreeli Raatein | Aadat
Listen to Bheega bheega sa | December
Listen to Halka halka sa | Breeze from Saintes Maries
'Zahreeli Raatein' is like a faster, DJ'ish version of Jal's 'Aadat' while 'Bheega bheega sa' is a straight lift from Abrar Ul Haq's song with the same words (his version is called 'December', however) that was part of his 2001 album 'Main Gaddi Aap Chalawan Ga'. Jesse Cook's 'Breeze from Saintes Maries' was part of his 2004 album 'Montreal'!
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'Dil samundar', 'Chori Chori' & 'Ana' [Garam Masala (2005)] <TC>
Lifted off Turkish singer Tarkan's 'Kuzu kuzu' (2001), Dr Zeus/ Balwinder Safri's 'Hai rabba' (2003) and Amr Diab's 'Ana' (1999)
Listen to Dil samandar | Kuzu kuzu
Listen to Chori Chori (Sukhwinder Singh, Hema Sardesai) | Chori Chori (Labh Jajua) | Hai Rabba
Listen to Adaa | Ana
Considering that he had already lifted Turkish superstar Tarkan in Dhoom, this is a dead give-away! The prelude is the same, while the parts with 'dooba dooba...' are again lifted straight off the 'kuzu kuzu' part in the original. But, strangely enough, the main tune which goes, 'dil samandar' does not seem to be a direct lift! But just one listen to the complete samples below (don't stop mid way!!) would easily prove the inspiration!

With regard to the second lift, what's particularly baffling is the second version of the same song in the soundtrack, sung by none other than Labh Jajua, better known as Punjabi MC. Given the fact both Punjabi MC and folks like Dr Zeus/ Balwinder Safri belong to the same UK Bhangra scene, its rather startling that Punjabi MC chose to be part of an uncredited version of this track. Is Labh so poorly clued in to his own music scene that he didn't know the source of this track or did he simply ignore the source blinded by the greens offered by the music label Venus?

The 3rd lift, of that in 'Adaa' seems more like a strong influence 'cos of the sheer number of things that Pritam has added to his version. But the basic thread is from Amr Diab's track.
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Jhoom [Ek Khiladi Ek Hasina (2005)] <TC>
Lifted from Britney Spears' commercial for Pepsi, 'Joy of Pepsi' (2001, 2002)!
Listen to Jhoom | Joy of Pepsi
A lift from an Advt.!! Pritam sure is going places!
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Chhoren ki baatein [Fight Club (2005)] <TC>
Direct lift from Pakistani singer Ali Zafar's 'Channo ki aankhen' from his 2003 album 'Huqa Pani'
Listen to Chhore ki baatein | Channo ki aankhen
Ali Zafar's Rangeen (from the same album) has been lifted by Himesh in Aashiq Banaya Aapne! Fight Club's CD does credit Ali Zafar for the source track. So, Pritam gets away scot-free this time!
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Akhiyaan Na Maar [Ek Khiladi Ek Haseena (2005)] <TC>
Lifted from Pakistani singer Waris Baig's 2004 track, 'Challa'
Listen to Akhiyaan na maar | Challa
Waris Baig's 2004 album, Aaja Nach Lay had the track Challa. Pritam's version is a considerably souped up, catchier version....but of course such things don't take away the fact that its copied!
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Dhoom machaale [Dhoom (2004)] <TC>
Partly inspired by Jesse Cook's 'Mario takes a walk'
Listen to Dhoom machaale | Mario takes a walk
To Pritam's credit (!!), the portion that derives inspiration is just the opening 2 lines and everything else further in seems to be his own! And that includes the main catchy hook 'Dhoom machaale'!
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Ya ali, Lamha lamha, Bheegi bheegi & Tu hi meri shab hai [Gangster (2006)] <TC>
Bheegi bheegi is inspired legitimately (!!) by Mohiner Ghoraguli's Bangla jibhonmuki gaan, 'Prithibi'! 'Ya ali' is a direct lift from the Arabic band Guitara's 'Ya ghaly' (from their 2002 album, Qisati), Lamha lamha is lifted from Waris Baig's 1998 track, 'Kal shab dekha maine', while 'Tu hi meri shab hai' is a direct lift from 'Sacral Nirvana' by Oliver Shanti & Friends.
Listen to Bheegi bheegi | Prithibi
Listen to Ya ali | Ya ghaly
Listen to Lamha lamha | Kal shab dekha
Listen to Tu hi meri shab hai | Sacral Nirvana
The album sleeve does have a credit note to Gautam Chatterjee! More on Mohiner Ghoraghuli! Was it because this is an Indian lift and the rest are from outside? Strange justice Pritam follows! 'Ya ali' and 'Tu hi meri' are mighty direct lifts. And so is 'Lamha lamha'! That leaves us with 'Mujhe mat roko'...till we trace its roots!
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Ankahee Title Song [Ankahee (2006)] <TC>
Lifted off Boney M's 1984 track, 'Somewhere in the world' from the album 10000 Light Years.
Listen to Ankahee Title Song | Somewhere in the world
Pritam adds a false start not in the original that makes his version sound rather different. But, prod a bit further and the similarity is glaring!
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Is this love [Pyar ke side effects (2006)] <TC>
Direct lift from Paul Anka's 1969 track 'A-mi-manera'.
Listen to Is this love | A-mi-manera (My way)
The original, is a 1969 track composed by Paul Anka, also made popular as 'My way', by Frank Sinatra and many other singers including Julio Iglesias and much later, by Gypsy Kings (the version added here)!
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Kya mujhe pyar hai [Woh lamhe (2006)] <TC>
Blatant lift from the track, 'Tak bisakah' by the Indonesian band Peterpan.
Listen to Kya mujhe pyar hai | Tak bisakah
Tak bisakah' means, Couldn't you? and is by one of Indonesia's most popular and successful pop groups, Peterpan. This track was part of the soundtrack of an Indonesian teen flick, 'Alexandria' (2005) and is apparently incredibly popular in those parts of the world!
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Now I understand why the music directors demand so much money for making music in one movie, half of the money goes in buying music CDs from different bands in the world.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: lalit1




the law of IP(intectual property) is so weak in india that one judgement(prithviraj kapoor(prithvi theatres) vs some writer of a play) said that there is no copyright violation because the play was in a different language than hindi
that means if u translate the dialouges of a movie/serial u are virtually free from the risk of piracy.

Lalit, how recent was this case? I agree that IP laws in India are poorly implemented. That's why some of our artists go to foreign countries to get copyrights registered.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: T.

Lalit, how recent was this case? I agree that IP laws in India are poorly implemented. That's why some of our artists go to foreign countries to get copyrights registered.



this is an old case 1950 or so

i only remember bcos it was mentioned in the sahara vs barbara taylor bradford " a woman of substance" karisma kapoor serial controversy

which ironically sahara won in spite of clear copyright violation

it is far more easier to prove music copyright cases
but even that takes a long time to prove

only popular escape way is claiming ignorance of the song



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Posted: 18 years ago
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Ya Ali/ Ya Ghali? Ask Pritam
By MIO Team

Pritam is once again in the news for the charges of plagiarism on him. This time it's the song that did the best to his career 'Ya Ali' from 'Gangster'. As the nation crooned the song like an anthem, nobody was aware that it was a direct lift from an originally Arabic number called 'Ya Ghali' composed by a Kuwait based band called GuiTaRa and is one of their most popular composition. Now the band alleges that the Bollywood composer has used their song without their knowledge and haven't even given due credit to them. Bandleader Fahad Shammoh claims that the song is completely stolen and was eventually upset after he watched it on TV. He says that the laurel of 'Ya Ali' goes to 'Ya Ghali' and so he has the due to get the profit. The rights of the Arabic song is owned by Prince Al Waleed Bin Talal from the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia royal family and he now plans to sue Pritam over the issue and the case is in progress.

On this issue Pritam says that he had no knowledge about the original song and that he has not stolen it or has got inspired by it. He says that 'Ya Ali' is inspired by a Muslim folk song that has been prevalent for centuries now. But Zubeen Garg, the singer of 'Ya Ali' puts in that he had knowledge about the original song but insists that the Bollywood number is not completely copied. He further adds that at time the composer has to comply with the producer's demands and he is left with no choice.


Edited by vinnie-thepooh - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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pritam bhai, aap God ka gana bana kar, khud itni be-reham harkat kaise kar sakte hain?? aap ko sharam nahin aii..........................
Edited by ~Nikki - 18 years ago

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