Classical music:Will India retain it - Page 2

Thank you Anol. 😃 Wrote something this long after a long long time. Kya karu Barnali di ne itna achcha thread start kiya hai.

Originally posted by: apparaohoare

Thank you Anol. 😃 Wrote something this long after a long long time. Kya karu Barnali di ne itna achcha thread start kiya hai.

Appada, please please keep this thread on page 1. Then chances are many youngsters would also read it .

Originally posted by: SmarterDesiKid

If singers like HR [no offence] continue to devolope in the music undustry - then Classical music wil become ancient. teens of today will be paretn's when classical music will be known by very few people - so with teens of today being possesed by songs related to that of HR - Classical music will indeed vanish, or be "endangered"

SDK.....Music rendered by Himesh, ARR,Preetam,Sandeep.....are just like Fast Food. Nice to eat during week ends. But you may not like it every day.

Listen to the songs sung by Lil Champs....The songs were sung first, atleast twice their age before. But the charm or melody still can be enjoyed. But so called fusion music with copied ideas will not last long...

Thanks to IF and Retro cafe...we are able to enjoy those melodious jems even today and feel.....somthing which I cannot tell.

Originally posted by: apparaohoare

While watching the audition's round for the Lil Champs, I commented that " Did anyone notice that not a single kid is wearing any Indian dress". I have not seen a single salwaar or anything Indian. Why? Is it that bad? Few girls looked bad in jeans or pants, but still they were wearing them. If they wore a traditional Indian attire, then they would have looked much better. The best example would be Ujjaini during the Calcutta concert looked really odd. She looked much prettier in Indian clothes.

Oh man! its getting long. I can can write much more, but will stop here for now.

Appa...ji,

Oldendays Gajji used to come on stage during final episode and show his emotions and thank who were instrumental with the Great SAREGAMA ....a pure musical show. But now you and Iwill not see him as his priorities changed. He is behind buck and when some one pays him to promote those dresses what else he can do? Just cash in only 😭😭

Originally posted by: Padma55

Appa...ji,

Oldendays Gajji used to come on stage during final episode and show his emotions and thank who were instrumental with the Great SAREGAMA ....a pure musical show. But now you and Iwill not see him as his priorities changed. He is behind buck and when some one pays him to promote those dresses what else he can do? Just cash in only 😭😭

Gaj ji has nothing to do here. I am talking about the auditons round where thousands of kids came for auditions. The clothes there were not provided by Zee.

Originally posted by: apparaohoare

Great point Sahana. Here in the US the teaching techniques are different and fun. Recently one of my friend wanted to learn guiter. He basically liked few pieces from different english songs and thats how he got interested. He went to a teacher. The teacher showed him how to play a piece, and also taught him another piece. He practiced those songs for two weeks and went back to him. He again taught him two more pieces. He practiced them too, but in the mean time my friend developed a feel for the instrument and started trying out new things on his own. In few months he was able to play few songs, and wanted to learn how to play the guiter in a more professional and proper way. So the bottom line is he did not loose interest.

Do you think if the teacher started with SRGMP, in the first class and told him that it would take at least 2 years before he could play his fav piece, then he would have continued. NO.

I have learnt classical music, and I hated the first one year which made me shout Sa Ga, Re Ma, Ga Pa,.................. I lost all interest. But I was forced to continue.

Exactly. When it comes to teaching methods, we have to learn a lot from the west. If you go to a traditional Indian classical teacher and ask him/her to teach you how to play a certain classical-based film song, he'll think you have got it all wrong.

Very few children of today's generation proceed to learn Indian classical music for more than a few years because of this limitation in teaching.

I mentioned the Yamaha Music School in an earlier post. I used to accompany my then 5-yr daughter to the classes. The kids were first made to listen to simple songs, to move their bodies to the songs, then finally play them on the keyboard (but were asked to sing along as they played). They were made to distinguish between different instruments and then read musical notations. In every class, the children were asked to go close to the teacher and watch how she played the piano. Initiation into beats was also a lot of fun.

Before the classes, I used to wonder how such little kids could be taught the intricacies of classical music. After the classes, I marvelled at the ingenuity of the person who had designed the structure of the course for little children.

Originally posted by: soulsoup

Hey - great post di 😊 and nice contribution by all - Appa - loved your post! 👏👏👏

How about we do something - even a small effort. Like listing all the Hindi Movie songs based on Ragas; also how the ragas are used! 😊

Anol I have started making a list. will post it soon. it;s almost ready. then others can also contribute and we can mak a complete list of tht.

Sahana and Appa i agree to yur comments regd learning just srgmp continously for many years makes the whole process very boring. but isnt it a fact also tht for getting to this subject better yu need to actually do tht. i somehow feel it is needed too. my daughter is learning classical vocal and her guruji taught her just tht for full one and a half yr. And tht particular teaching is showing it;s fruit now. the fast rate at which she is picking up the raags is maybe due to tht only.

but yes maybe if it could be made interesting then definitely it would b better in the long run. because then many may actually come forward.

Originally posted by: soulsoup

Hey - great post di 😊 and nice contribution by all - Appa - loved your post! 👏👏👏

How about we do something - even a small effort. Like listing all the Hindi Movie songs based on Ragas; also how the ragas are used! 😊

Anol, there are plenty of web sites that give list of songs based on Ragas.

Here are some that I know ---

http://www.downmelodylane.com/ragas.html

http://www.asavari.org/songs.html

http://chandrakantha.com/raga_raag/film_song_raga.html

http://www.sudeepaudio.com/filmsongs.htm

Originally posted by: salilu

Anol, there are plenty of web sites that give list of songs based on Ragas.

Here are some that I know ---

http://www.downmelodylane.com/ragas.html

http://www.asavari.org/songs.html

http://chandrakantha.com/raga_raag/film_song_raga.html

http://www.sudeepaudio.com/filmsongs.htm

Hey Salil - great! Now what needed to be done - upload or link to original raga and the movie song too. Also we need some experts help (Barnalidi, Sahana .....) how the transition (i.e. Suddha Swara part) happened! That will be a quite a deal! 😊