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Posted: 19 years ago
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Cool. Very Cool!! Thank you
Another song in Rupak is "Mere Humafar Mere hamsafar mere paas aa..." from Refugee.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: charades

This might help in understanding these....

This action is called Kriya.

1. Sashbda (with sound)--- a clap or beating a simple percussion instrument.

2. Nishabda (silent).--- a wave of the hand.

Carnatic has other Kriyas too-

Sashabda Kriya: Falling of the right palm on the thigh or on the left palm called a Ghata or Thattu (tap). In Sanskrit one of the meanings for Ghata is "engaged or busy with".

Nishabda Kriya: Finger movements starting with the little finger, usually be touching the thumb to it. - Falling of the hand with the palm facing upwards called a Visarjita. Can also be a wave of hand.

Like Kishore Ji mentioned in his post above

In Hindustani two kriyas are used. Sashabda Kriya is Thali (a clap in Hindi).

Nishabda Kriya is Khali (empty).

Even though I know that Abhi is not active I am replying to his post.

Just a thought that this might help others.

Thanks VJ for your thought for Abhi yes that is a very good explanation I am sure it will help us all to understand. Also I wonder where is KB Da ?
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Excellent posting. Thanks KBji.

Here is a tangential addition for Tagore song lovers.

Tagore being an innovator in truest sense introduced four new taalas.

Shashthi, Jhampak, Ardhajhaap and Rupakrha

He used these taalas in a few songs.

Shashthi as name suggests comprises of 6 beat like dadra, but with division of 2+4, an example: Nidrahara Raater

Jhampak: 5 beats, 3+2 division, an example: Nibiro Ama

Ardhajhaap: half of the Jhaaptaal, 2+3, all taali.

Rupakrha: 3+2+3: Like Rupak with extra beat on 3rd division. Sharato Aalor Kamalabone

Just in case you wanted to know.

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: nadabrahma

Excellent posting. Thanks KBji.

Here is a tangential addition for Tagore song lovers.

Tagore being an innovator in truest sense introduced four new taalas.

Shashthi, Jhampak, Ardhajhaap and Rupakrha

He used these taalas in a few songs.

Shashthi as name suggests comprises of 6 beat like dadra, but with division of 2+4, an example: Nidrahara Raater

Jhampak: 5 beats, 3+2 division, an example: Nibiro Ama

Ardhajhaap: half of the Jhaaptaal, 2+3, all taali.

Rupakrha: 3+2+3: Like Rupak with extra beat on 3rd division. Sharato Aalor Kamalabone

Just in case you wanted to know.

Thanks Good information Kb Da always a come up with great topics
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Thanks Vijay ji for bumping this thread...
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: charades

nadabrahma ji..

Would you please let me know whether you meant "Srishta".

I am aware that both Ardha Jhap and Jhampak tala's are known as of "Rabindra Srishta" but haven't heard of Shashthi.

"Shashthi" means sixth in Sanskrit. "Rabindra Shrishta" means "created by Tagore". The Shasthi taala goes

Dha ge| Dha ge te the, both are taali. So the rhythm 12, 1234.

Rabindranath named it "Shasthi".

Rabindranath composed many songs on this. I mentioned one. There is another I remember now, Tomay Cheye Aachhi Bose.

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Posted: 19 years ago
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HI Kishore dada
bhalo
very interesting article.

dha dhin dhin dha | dhia dhin dhin dha | ta tin tin ta |ta dhin dhin dha

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Now if only I could see a video of Kishore Bhakta explaining the talas on a tabla!
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Thanks for the informative post, Kishore ji.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: charades

Unfortunately I don't understand Bengali😭...but

Fortunate enough to understand sanskrit....😊

Thanks for ur response

You are most welcome.

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