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Originally posted by: Mister.K.

The thing to be realized with debates is that, everyone has an opinion and they will defend it with all their might. If it's a debate competition and if it's being judged, someone will walk away the winner. It doesn't mean that the winner is a true winner; it just means that the winner convinced a couple of people supervising the debate. It just means that the winner found a few more supporters for his subjectivity. If it's an open forum like this one, it's much harder to declare a winner. Each one is entitled to think that they are the winners.

If it's less about winning the debate and more about convincing the others, that too is a futile exercise. In my experience, I have found people to be extremely stubborn and extremely rigid in their belief systems. They don't sway easily.

So, before I express any opinion, now-a-days I ask myself one simple question ' what do I realistically expect to get out of this? 99.99% of the time, the answer comes back as "nothing".

i prefer discussions to debates... debates involve tactics, while discussions involve open mindedness imo

Originally posted by: slumdog

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Originally posted by: Mister.K.

The thing to be realized with debates is that, everyone has an opinion and they will defend it with all their might. If it's a debate competition and if it's being judged, someone will walk away the winner. It doesn't mean that the winner is a true winner; it just means that the winner convinced a couple of people supervising the debate. It just means that the winner found a few more supporters for his subjectivity. If it's an open forum like this one, it's much harder to declare a winner. Each one is entitled to think that they are the winners.

If it's less about winning the debate and more about convincing the others, that too is a futile exercise. In my experience, I have found people to be extremely stubborn and extremely rigid in their belief systems. They don't sway easily.

So, before I express any opinion, now-a-days I ask myself one simple question ' what do I realistically expect to get out of this? 99.99% of the time, the answer comes back as "nothing".

Mister. K. You sound like such a nihilist at times. Reducing everything to nothing. Although, I do somewhat agree with most of what you say. I would have to agree with OBJ there, I prefer discussions to debates. The problem with debates is as you point out, people either want to win or change someone's opinion. They are both futile. Especially online, no one is gaining anything by winning or thinking they won a debate online, other than some pretentious self gratification. This is how some of the more immature folk get all heated up, aggressive and offensive because they have to either win at all cost, or they feel that having their view questioned means some sort of epic catastrophe.

Similar to what you say, I tend to ask myself the question Mr. Sweeney asks Derek in American History X 'Has anything you've done made your life any better'. I like to ask myself, how will my life be any better with what I choose to do. Is this an exercise in futility or is there something to gain.

For me I enjoy discussions because I find it fascinating to see all the different perspectives that are there on the subject. There seems to always be something new to learn, a new point of view or just some interesting tidbit. (Of course I am not thoughtful all the time and sometimes will post the most stupidest things and get caught up in the most ridiculous arguments ever). It is not just IF or DM. My real life is also all discussion. I just can't watch TV, movies or read a book or do anything without discussion. That's why Law & Order is my favorite series, it gives so many aspects to discuss.

With discussions online, you get to meet people with similar views and chit-chat/socialize. But when you are really lucky opposites attract and then there is chemistry; like me and Ajnu. 😉

Sarina, I think you are more right than wrong when you said that at times I act like a nihilist. Some time back, you also figured me for a solipsist (or at least you asked my views on that subject which means that thought did cross your mind) and I think you were more right than wrong then too.

Originally posted by: Mister.K.

Sarina, I think you are more right than wrong when you said that at times I act like a nihilist. Some time back, you also figured me for a solipsist (or at least you asked my views on that subject which means that thought did cross your mind) and I think you were more right than wrong then too.

Time permitting, I don't mind having discussions! What you got? Bullet points please.

I feel that rafi saab should somehow be resurrected with advanced nuclear science. what say?

Originally posted by: gengarjetty2

I feel that rafi saab should somehow be resurrected with advanced nuclear science. what say?

You mean Cryonics? But his body wasn't preserved that way. You got to have a bodya as a starting point...

Originally posted by: Mister.K.

You mean Cryonics? But his body wasn't preserved that way. You got to have a bodya as a starting point...

then chodo now we'll never have a singing god. oh well, there's always mamu.

Originally posted by: Mister.K.

Sarina, I think you are more right than wrong when you said that at times I act like a nihilist. Some time back, you also figured me for a solipsist (or at least you asked my views on that subject which means that thought did cross your mind) and I think you were more right than wrong then too.

Time permitting, I don't mind having discussions! What you got? Bullet points please.

Yes, your views on matters tend to reflect nihilistic, solipsist thoughts.

Anyway, as for discussion. We can discuss morality as Ajnu suggested.

How do you perceive morality? What do you think of the questions OBJ posted related to morality, that is do you think there is complete morality? Personally, what do you identify with better in terms of morality, liberalism or conservatism? Do you agree with my perception that even with differing moral views, there is still a common ground of greater good/societal good?

Anything you want to add works too. 😊

Could you elaborate on your views on solipsism? Sometimes solipsism is confusing to me. Can solipsism exist or be proven? What if each person thought they were an solipsism, that is for each person, their mind is the only thing that exists - it is hard for me to wrap my head around it. 😕 Do you think that God is the one true solipsist?

Originally posted by: *Woh Ajnabee*

.........Hahah, GD will drag us with our ears and force us to make up. 😆 But we know better than to let petty debates come in the way. ;)

Drool time. DID tomorrow! Jaane Terrence ko maine kabse nahi dekha. 😍

Originally posted by: Mister.K.

OK. What the heck, I will add a couple of more sentences to the above:

a. Sarina's views on this topic are radical. Not many can digest them much less appreciate them. If you take a poll, probably she will be in the minority.

b. Ajnu's views on this topic are more or less black and white.

c. My views are at a median point.