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Posted: 16 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: Nishita123


I agree, performance is important specially in a reality show, but I have seen performance/ stage presence eventually comes to those who are lacking that initially , like Hemachandara, Nihira, Debojeet, Aneek, Poonam, Harpreet , Amanat ........

Havent seen other way round , i.e those who are lacking singing talent, eventually they will get eliminated no matter what . But sadly before that we lose some real talent , who could have gone further in the competition on basis of singing.

Good point !👏

Yeah, you can learn stage performance much more quickly with exposure of this kind than you can learn singing !

So , singing obviously deserves a better chance !

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Posted: 16 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: Nishita123


I agree, performance is important specially in a reality show, but I have seen performance/ stage presence eventually comes to those who are lacking that initially , like Hemachandara, Nihira, Debojeet, Aneek, Poonam, Harpreet , Amanat ........

Havent seen other way round , i.e those who are lacking singing talent, eventually they will get eliminated no matter what . But sadly before that we lose some real talent , who could have gone further in the competition on basis of singing.



Fair enough. However, in my personal perspective people develop stage presence but they do not blow my mind. Confidence, stage presence, audience interaction and security with oneself is something that is psychologically part of the personality. You can fake it and take a good shot at it, but you can never really live it.

But I will admit that I am shallow when it comes to television or live performances. I'm into histrionics. I'm probably those people who gives music purists a cardiac arrests. My Ipod will jump from Aretha Franklin to Lordi.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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I mean if the whole goal of this is that they're going to continue on to stage shows forever...they can do what most do by singing, playing it back, and performing to that if the performance is so important. That's what they usually do at the finally to keep people entertained. To me, the performers end up being the ones that lip synch to the better singers to put it harshly. But I won't say that it should be completely disregarded. But that's falling into the song/getting into it. When they get into it, they express it with their eyes...their stage presence allows us to see that. when somebody is confident, you can hear it in their song. I mean, if they just sing with no expressions or anything, their song will sound robotic, whether you look at them or not. And when someone smiles, you can hear it. Yashodan to me, seems like he's not that into the song when he sings. He's just technically correct, but when you look at him, his stage presence and everything...he's not feeling the song.
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Posted: 16 years ago
#64

Originally posted by: clodpolish

Don't you like to see those expressions, the feeling that kinda comes out on the faces of the contestants?

The smile?

Even in pure singing, all these things do come out !

Can we see this all on radio?



I wouldn't want to stare at someone's smile for five minutes (unless it's someone too special...LOL😛😆)!!! And adding performance to their singing doesn't hurt in any way. It's not like go up to the stage, stand there completely idle, and then sing (purely), we can only see their lips moving and nothing else....stare at them on TV for five minutes (yea, singing is there too, but still....)...😛😆!!! I'd rather watch someone who sings decent but at least is worth watching on TV. If you want "pure" singing, whatever that is supposed to mean, I agree with RTH. Listening to a radio is a better option, imo😛😆!!!.The way they present themselves matter a lot. Media gives more limelight to those who know how to grab the attention of media. Truth hurts, what to do.
And shalini has it in her to perform well. People shouldn't discourage her performance, take back her make-up kit or whatever😛😆....but rather encourage her singing. Here, people are more inclined to bash Shalini for performing well rather than for singing bad. As ridiculous as it can ever get.

Anyways, Shalini rocks...!! And she deserves to be on the show for longer and not like how some people are saying she needed to get eliminated this week!!! She still needs some more time to get a grasp on her singing. I hope she does better this weekend. Very much looking forward to her performance.😊 Others are good too. Debolina, in my opinion, was the right contestant to get out!!!
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Posted: 16 years ago
#65

Originally posted by: *Woh Ajnabee*


Firstly, she's a sweet little girl, and I don't have anything against her - just want to make that clear. If you reread my post that you have quoted above, I clearly say that her confidence and performances are her strong points. What I meant when I said that Shalini needs to get her act together is that if she wants to survive in the competition, her confidence, her performances, her style of singing won't be sufficient, she also needs to match up the level of singing that is coming from the other contestants. It is not fair to her if judges praise her and then all of a sudden public voting kicks her out based on singing. She should know that she needs to practice and do better.
And you say that all "confident gals" are bashed by the world - I don't think that's true at all. See, you find confidence to be the common link between Yashita and Mauli, and I find the common link to be lack of singing. From how I see it, singers like Sumedha, Vaishali, Poonam are all very confident singers. Granted there personalities were nothing like Mauli and Yashita's, but their singing was much better. Perhaps they were not able to shake their booty along with the beat, but their singing was outstanding that they did not need that.
When you mention Mauli and Yashita and label them as the "confident gals" - it makes me cringe. Is having confidence enough despite the fact that you can sing or not. I think you're confusing westernized attitudes with confidence. Just because one holds the in-your-face attitude, does not make one confident.
On this platform, contestants need confidence, performance skills, the X-factor, and above all else good singing. What good is confidence if it doesn't have the good singing to come with it?
Or what is an X-factor if the contestant can't give a performance to save his/her life?
Coming back to Shalini, she's not a bad singer, BUT she still needs to work on her singing. She may be enjoyable to watch, but that does not mean that she's the best - she'll have a tough time I think later on, if she doesn't start working on her songs more closely.



Very well said, Ajnu!!! 👏 👏 👏 You covered it all. Many people confuse arrogant attitude as confidence and vice versa. Mauli had confidence, but for Yashita it was more of an attitude. BTW, Yashita was a better singer than Mauli, IMHO. Mauli got the hypes for her Mayya Mayya song, but she sang it out of sur from the original!! One can say that she added her style to it, but that's still deviating from the original - in that aspect everyone can claim to be a singer just that each one is singing in his or her own style!!

Mayya Mayya rendition on stage was the best by Anamika in LC2, and Mauli made it sound like a sensual song! With her good looks and style, along with her stage presence, that style worked for her advantage, but the truth remains that she sang different from the original!! When a MD composes a song, usually they follow a raag or mix up a number of them in the whole song - there is a reason based on the mood of the song, the situation, etc. It is disrepectful to them when one changes that and adds own style or tune to the song just for personal gains. Then why not write own song and compose it??

Vaishali and Poonam had the voice, sur and confidence on stage - never even once I felt that they lack confidence! Maybe Vaishali lacked the super looks but Poonam was very cute too. So I dont understand the scale used for measuring one's confidence!! I feel it's more about looks at the end - how pleasing to one's eyes the singer is!! In that aspect, I believe all six girls in LC3 have the cute factor! And I didnt feel anyone except Debolina lacked confidence on stage! And to me Shalini is overconfident which is a negative factor for a singer! And all the hypes she gets in fact make it worse for her and I feel sorry for her that she is only a kid and should be guided in the right path to become a good singer!

If stage presence is the factor required for a singer, how did Khailash Kher become a popular singer? How about Lataji and Ashaji?? How come Ushaji didnt become as great a singer as Lataji then when she had the absolute stage presence?! How about singers like Yesudas, ARR, Shankar, Abhijeet, Suresh, Himesh, Chitra, Aneek, Raja and all? In that aspect, Asma would be the best from C09 - she had 100% stage presence!! Now Bazy will be super excited to read this!! 😆
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Posted: 16 years ago
#66

Originally posted by: clodpolish

Good point !👏

Yeah, you can learn stage performance much more quickly with exposure of this kind than you can learn singing !

So , singing obviously deserves a better chance !


Yes, I agree with Nishi and Cloddy, singing is what makes one a singer in the long run and not the performance!! Unless one wants to survive on stage shows for the rest of life rather than becoming a good singer, the singing talent is what matters. Anyway LC is a singing talent competition and not a performance competition! 😃

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Posted: 16 years ago
#67

Originally posted by: akanna



Very well said, Ajnu!!! 👏 👏 👏 You covered it all. Many people confuse arrogant attitude as confidence and vice versa. Mauli had confidence, but for Yashita it was more of an attitude. BTW, Yashita was a better singer than Mauli, IMHO. Mauli got the hypes for her Mayya Mayya song, but she sang it out of sur from the original!! One can say that she added her style to it, but that's still deviating from the original - in that aspect everyone can claim to be a singer just that each one is singing in his or her own style!!

Mayya Mayya rendition on stage was the best by Anamika in LC2, and Mauli made it sound like a sensual song! With her good looks and style, along with her stage presence, that style worked for her advantage, but the truth remains that she sang different from the original!! When a MD composes a song, usually they follow a raag or mix up a number of them in the whole song - there is a reason based on the mood of the song, the situation, etc. It is disrepectful to them when one changes that and adds own style or tune to the song just for personal gains. Then why not write own song and compose it??

Vaishali and Poonam had the voice, sur and confidence on stage - never even once I felt that they lack confidence! Maybe Vaishali lacked the super looks but Poonam was very cute too. So I dont understand the scale used for measuring one's confidence!! I feel it's more about looks at the end - how pleasing to one's eyes the singer is!! In that aspect, I believe all six girls in LC3 have the cute factor! And I didnt feel anyone except Debolina lacked confidence on stage! And to me Shalini is overconfident which is a negative factor for a singer! And all the hypes she gets in fact make it worse for her and I feel sorry for her that she is only a kid and should be guided in the right path to become a good singer!

If stage presence is the factor required for a singer, how did Khailash Kher become a popular singer? How about Lataji and Ashaji?? How come Ushaji didnt become as great a singer as Lataji then when she had the absolute stage presence?! How about singers like Yesudas, ARR, Shankar, Abhijeet, Suresh, Himesh, Chitra, Aneek, Raja and all? In that aspect, Asma would be the best from C09 - she had 100% stage presence!! Now Bazy will be super excited to read this!! 😆



rafi saahab had both stage presence and talent:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcwvuF2cDZY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWBoXjk9Ruc

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: gengarjetty2


rafi saahab had both stage presence and talent:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcwvuF2cDZY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWBoXjk9Ruc



C'mon OBJu, you know what I meant!! I didnt say he didnt! 😃 And Sonu too has both!! 😉
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Posted: 16 years ago
#69

Originally posted by: akanna



C'mon OBJu, you know what I meant!! I didnt say he didnt! 😃 And Sonu too has both!! 😉



no he doesn't.. his voice become extremely cheap already and he cries and quivers lol

did u hear rafi saahab whistling at the pataake? 😆
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: gengarjetty2


no he doesn't.. his voice become extremely cheap already and he cries and quivers lol
did u hear rafi saahab whistling at the pataake? 😆



I can sense that you are asking for trouble!! 😆 You are so desperate to hear a mouthful from a bunch of folks here especially Shezu!! Just because you dislike Sonu for some weird reason and favours Aneek doesnt make Sonu any less singer for his fans! 😃

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