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Posted: 16 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: desicrowd

^ I do agree that confident girls do get more than required critique from the audience which is not fair...Its like a confident person is always put down for some reason. And somehow its always with girls whereas with boys its admirable and appreciated, maybe thats how the wrold is. As for Shalini I do admire her confidence and stage presence, she doesn't need to work on that as she has it all in her. Right now she just needs to concentrate on singing better than her competitors which I am sure she must be doing so. She has it in her, she shouldn't lose focus with the show ppl trying to portray her as a pretty girl rather than a good singer...



I think it's really their confidence that gets them as far as they do, because most of them actually lack the ability to sing...at least with sur. sorry. The only reason Shalini made it past the audition round was BECAUSE of her stage presence, but if you don't look at her singing and just play a random part of the song, it will sound bad. You listen to the whole thing, it might sound decent, but if you stop at any clip, she'll just sound screechy. Apart from that, Shalini pretty much killed Piya Re. Either way, she's weaker than the others. Anyway, the similarity between all of them is that they are usually one song or one genre singers. Shalini shied away from the sufi theme and still kind of flopped, but she's mostly a high energy singer. But she doesn't have the voice or the sur. Yashita only sung songs that had some weird sound effect...but we all found out in the classical round or anything out of her comfort zone what her singing ablitiy really was. Now, I don't have a problem with Mauli, since I didn't watch most of that season. From what I saw, they were mostly the same type of songs. And then apparently Mayya Mayya was overhyped. If they didn't sing with the confidence that they do, they probably would just be average singers and probably would end up tenth place or less rather than where they do actually make it.
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Posted: 16 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: chutneyx4404



I think it's really their confidence that gets them as far as they do, because most of them actually lack the ability to sing...at least with sur. sorry. The only reason Shalini made it past the audition round was BECAUSE of her stage presence, but if you don't look at her singing and just play a random part of the song, it will sound bad. You listen to the whole thing, it might sound decent, but if you stop at any clip, she'll just sound screechy. Apart from that, Shalini pretty much killed Piya Re. Either way, she's weaker than the others. Anyway, the similarity between all of them is that they are usually one song or one genre singers. Shalini shied away from the sufi theme and still kind of flopped, but she's mostly a high energy singer. But she doesn't have the voice or the sur. Yashita only sung songs that had some weird sound effect...but we all found out in the classical round or anything out of her comfort zone what her singing ablitiy really was. Now, I don't have a problem with Mauli, since I didn't watch most of that season. From what I saw, they were mostly the same type of songs. And then apparently Mayya Mayya was overhyped. If they didn't sing with the confidence that they do, they probably would just be average singers and probably would end up tenth place or less rather than where they do actually make it.


I do agree Shalini is not the strongest singer, the point here is more often it happens that audiences dislike girls having a little bit of confidence or stage presence. Don't get me wrong I don't like kids who are overconfident or disrespectful but from Shalini I gather that she has her confidence which is a good thing. And as I said earlier I think she doesn't need to work on that aspect so all she needs to do now is concentrate on delivering good singing.
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Posted: 16 years ago
#53
Stage presence, confidence is needed but the most important thing is singing in sur and taal, balanced expressions.......singing techniques IMHO

To me , Shalini is a very average singer and not even one song wonder becuase her "Ye raat mein jo nasha hai " was extremely hyped up and not sung properly at all........ not challenging respected judges here , but just telling what I felt.....

Her raat baaki, Piya re - all were very average performances and to me she deserved to be eliminated on basis of singing !!

Also I agree with someone who said she should be eliminated before public voting starts to avoid ridiculous pattern of elimination !!




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Posted: 16 years ago
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I will agree with most people on the fact that Shalini is definitely the weakest link so far. Her performance has been mediocre and she has not shown any versatility or growth. Perhaps on the basis of pure vocal skills she should be the one getting eliminated before others.

However, I am one of those strange few people for whom performance is important. Not that I discredit singing or actual skills. For me singers are two categories - the ones you watch live, and the others whose CD you buy.

To me if it should be purely singing it should be on radio, where we only hear their voices and nothing else. I'm sure most people would vote out Shalini if we did not see what she was like and just heard her sing.

For me Shalini is the watch live kind of singer, purely for the confidence, energy level, style and antics. I would not even bother downloading a CD, but would pay for a live show or watch the videos on youtube. I find her like cross between Amy Diamond and Yulia Volkova. Actually, I think she would carry of "Whats in it for me"

If Ashley Simpson and Lindsay Lohan can have music albums (and Ashley can make my ears bleed) why not Shalini.

I think we need a Mickey Mouse Clubhouse kind of musical singing show for all sorts of talent.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: return_to_hades

I will agree with most people on the fact that Shalini is definitely the weakest link so far. Her performance has been mediocre and she has not shown any versatility or growth. Perhaps on the basis of pure vocal skills she should be the one getting eliminated before others.

However, I am one of those strange few people for whom performance is important. Not that I discredit singing or actual skills. For me singers are two categories - the ones you watch live, and the others whose CD you buy.

To me if it should be purely singing it should be on radio, where we only hear their voices and nothing else. I'm sure most people would vote out Shalini if we did not see what she was like and just heard her sing.

For me Shalini is the watch live kind of singer, purely for the confidence, energy level, style and antics. I would not even bother downloading a CD, but would pay for a live show or watch the videos on youtube. I find her like cross between Amy Diamond and Yulia Volkova. Actually, I think she would carry of "Whats in it for me"

If Ashley Simpson and Lindsay Lohan can have music albums (and Ashley can make my ears bleed) why not Shalini.

I think we need a Mickey Mouse Clubhouse kind of musical singing show for all sorts of talent.



Thats interesting...Like the original where everyone from that club made it big...(my fav Justin TImberlake)...we can have some good talents back home too...
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Posted: 16 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: return_to_hades



To me if it should be purely singing it should be on radio, where we only hear their voices and nothing else.

Don't you like to see those expressions, the feeling that kinda comes out on the faces of the contestants?

The smile?

Even in pure singing, all these things do come out !

Can we see this all on radio?

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: desicrowd



Thats interesting...Like the original where everyone from that club made it big...(my fav Justin TImberlake)...we can have some good talents back home too...



OT but I saw some of the old Britney Spears videos from that show and she was really very talented. It breaks my heart to see how her career went downhill and she lost so much respect. She had great throw and held some amazing notes.

IMHO the clubhouse kind of show is better suited for kids as it is not intensely competitive and it helps them showcase their talent in public - while still being nurtured to an extent.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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At the bolded >>>>

Shalini's acts are fine, she is only a little gal...its not her fault she is a brilliant performer and amazes everyone with her confidence level...i always wonder why confident gals are the least liked...for example Mauli was bashed alot during her days, Twinkle and Yashita....all these gals have been bashed the most..and they all have one thing in common in them - all of the were the most confident gals on the stage during their time....now shalini is getting bashed for the same reason....i dont understand why girls being projected more confident than others are not generally well liked???

Besides she is not the only one the judges praise eh? its not like she is the only one that gets a clapping ovation and the rest sitting? the judges are not biased...if someone sings/performs well they get their ''deserved praise'' it doesnt come free! ...i dunno why this gal is getting all kinda remarks just cos Alka gifted her a cosmetic box..what fault is it of hers> and big deal she was the only one that got it...others may get something else in the coming weeks

Performing well and sounding confident is never a minus...if it could help your stage presence then why not use it to the max? so far her performances have been of a high standard...and we still havent seen much of her. She would fix her sur and taal with Practice...but confidence and performance comes naturally which most lack and she has that plus point that many cant have despite having perfect sur and taal

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Firstly, she's a sweet little girl, and I don't have anything against her - just want to make that clear. If you reread my post that you have quoted above, I clearly say that her confidence and performances are her strong points. What I meant when I said that Shalini needs to get her act together is that if she wants to survive in the competition, her confidence, her performances, her style of singing won't be sufficient, she also needs to match up the level of singing that is coming from the other contestants. It is not fair to her if judges praise her and then all of a sudden public voting kicks her out based on singing. She should know that she needs to practice and do better.

And you say that all "confident gals" are bashed by the world - I don't think that's true at all. See, you find confidence to be the common link between Yashita and Mauli, and I find the common link to be lack of singing. From how I see it, singers like Sumedha, Vaishali, Poonam are all very confident singers. Granted there personalities were nothing like Mauli and Yashita's, but their singing was much better. Perhaps they were not able to shake their booty along with the beat, but their singing was outstanding that they did not need that.

When you mention Mauli and Yashita and label them as the "confident gals" - it makes me cringe. Is having confidence enough despite the fact that you can sing or not. I think you're confusing westernized attitudes with confidence. Just because one holds the in-your-face attitude, does not make one confident.

On this platform, contestants need confidence, performance skills, the X-factor, and above all else good singing. What good is confidence if it doesn't have the good singing to come with it? Or what is an X-factor if the contestant can't give a performance to save his/her life?

Coming back to Shalini, she's not a bad singer, BUT she still needs to work on her singing. She may be enjoyable to watch, but that does not mean that she's the best - she'll have a tough time I think later on, if she doesn't start working on her songs more closely.
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Posted: 16 years ago
#59

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

I will agree with most people on the fact that Shalini is definitely the weakest link so far. Her performance has been mediocre and she has not shown any versatility or growth. Perhaps on the basis of pure vocal skills she should be the one getting eliminated before others.

However, I am one of those strange few people for whom performance is important. Not that I discredit singing or actual skills. For me singers are two categories - the ones you watch live, and the others whose CD you buy.

To me if it should be purely singing it should be on radio, where we only hear their voices and nothing else. I'm sure most people would vote out Shalini if we did not see what she was like and just heard her sing.

For me Shalini is the watch live kind of singer, purely for the confidence, energy level, style and antics. I would not even bother downloading a CD, but would pay for a live show or watch the videos on youtube. I find her like cross between Amy Diamond and Yulia Volkova. Actually, I think she would carry of "Whats in it for me"

If Ashley Simpson and Lindsay Lohan can have music albums (and Ashley can make my ears bleed) why not Shalini.

I think we need a Mickey Mouse Clubhouse kind of musical singing show for all sorts of talent.



I agree, performance is important specially in a reality show, but I have seen performance/ stage presence eventually comes to those who are lacking that initially , like Hemachandara, Nihira, Debojeet, Aneek, Poonam, Harpreet , Amanat ........

Havent seen other way round , i.e those who are lacking singing talent, eventually they will get eliminated no matter what . But sadly before that we lose some real talent , who could have gone further in the competition on basis of singing.
Edited by Nishita123 - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Btw - lets just also say that sometimes we like to defend people who are being bashed only because they are being bashed😆

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