Why such hatred for Hemant and Monali?

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Posted: 7 years ago
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I have been a silent reader of this forum, and I have noticed most of the people here don't leave a chance of dissing these two, if their singing talent isn't enough, they bring out their personal lives, comments made by them to hate them..
First Monali - She is a national award winning singer, how can people even think that she's not a good singer? I can understand you don't like her voice fine, but people made a thread about Chetan saying "Wow", just to belittle her, So she made an insensitive remarks against Rainit, which was wrong of course, but I can understand that she must have felt that Rainit was faking it, it's not uncommon, it shouldn't have been done, she shouldn't have said it on live stage, but hello, we can't hang her because you hate her, now can we?


Hemant - He is such an amazing singer, I have seen him experimenting with different songs every week, in first few weeks, I never thought he could ace something like "Satrangi Re", but I have noticed people love to hate him, Monali asking Rainit about his disability is insensitivity, and people here digging for Hemant's family, posting his videos, which have nothing to do with his music, is not? Or even speculating that he lied about his age? But these people love Rohan Preet, who is getting votes for his face and apparently his province, he is average singer at best, I have never enjoyed his performance, I don't connect with him and I don't really see how women liking him is relevant to his singing? Anyway, what's wrong with Hemant saying whoever he is, is because of his father? How is this patriarchal? If you can't find something to hate him, fish out a non issue and jump guns?
In Dangal movie, when Geeta says whoever she is, is because of her father, was that patriarchal? No, we saw it was her father, who worked day and night for her, Same goes for Hemant, it is his father's dream, he loves his father, doesn't mean he doesn't love his mother, and honestly, how is his personal life even a matter?

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Posted: 7 years ago
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DracarysTrio. :)
This post is about how I feel about your question so I can't speak for everybody. I would request the other active users to also reply to this as I don't want this forum to be known for "hate".

First of all to Monali. I don't think anybody hates Monali here. I certainly don't. I really like her voice to be honest. Two of my most favorite songs of Bollywood are hers- Sawar Loon and Moh Moh Ke Dhaage. And I feel she sang them beautifully. But if someone feels that she is not a strong singer, then that is their opinion and they have every right to it. We are not obliged to like every singer even if they have won a National award.

Like many, I also felt that the Raenit comment was insensitive and I feel it's a good thng we discussed it. Because this is what the forum is all about after all. To dicuss about our view points and opinions. If you don't think it was insensitive then I totally respect that but you also have to respect our opinion.
Also please don't confuse criticism with hatred, that happens too often. If you have noticed, we have not only critized Monali, but also Diljit and Shankar for various reasons. Criticism is important for progress!!
The Monali-Chetan thread was just all fun. At least for me it was. I didn't take it very seriously and I don't think any of us do.

So please don't take everything we write here too seriosly, most of the times we just joke around and try to make other people laugh. 😆

Coming to Hemant. Again we are not hating on Hemant and there is really no agenda or anything 😆 If you read our Performance Threads again Hemant has always been in our top most of the time. And most of us feel that he is an incredible incredible singer and at least deserves to be in Top 2. And solely talent wise I feel either he or Vishnumaya should be the winners.
But again, you cannot say people who think otherwise are wrong, it is just their opinion and we have to respect them, even if you or I disagree.

You know I said criticism is the first step to progress. Same applies here. If we feel someone is misogynistic or has some problematic views, we should discuss that. We cannot take problems like these lightly anymore. And I amhappy I am not the only one who feels that way.
Also if you read the Thread again, we are coming of a place of dissapointment and not hatred as most of us actually liked Hemant. And I personally still hope that I am wrong about him and he is not like that at all.

All in all I would request you to not confuse "criticism" with "hatred" and also not to take this forum too seriously. The forum is about exchanging our opinions and feelings about this show and that is all we do.

Thanks for reading and understanding. 😊



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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: lissa007

DracarysTrio. :)

This post is about how I feel about your question so I can't speak for everybody. I would request the other active users to also reply to this as I don't want this forum to be known for "hate".

First of all to Monali. I don't think anybody hates Monali here. I certainly don't. I really like her voice to be honest. Two of my most favorite songs of Bollywood are hers- Sawar Loon and Moh Moh Ke Dhaage. And I feel she sang them beautifully. But if someone feels that she is not a strong singer, then that is their opinion and they have every right to it. We are not obliged to like every singer even if they have won a National award.

Like many, I also felt that the Raenit comment was insensitive and I feel it's a good thng we discussed it. Because this is what the forum is all about after all. To dicuss about our view points and opinions. If you don't think it was insensitive then I totally respect that but you also have to respect our opinion.
Also please don't confuse criticism with hatred, that happens too often. If you have noticed, we have not only critized Monali, but also Diljit and Shankar for various reasons. Criticism is important for progress!!
The Monali-Chetan thread was just all fun. At least for me it was. I didn't take it very seriously and I don't think any of us do.

So please don't take everything we write here too seriosly, most of the times we just joke around and try to make other people laugh. 😆

Coming to Hemant. Again we are not hating on Hemant and there is really no agenda or anything 😆 If you read our Performance Threads again Hemant has always been in our top most of the time. And most of us feel that he is an incredible incredible singer and at least deserves to be in Top 2. And solely talent wise I feel either he or Vishnumaya should be the winners.
But again, you cannot say people who think otherwise are wrong, it is just their opinion and we have to respect them, even if you or I disagree.

You know I said criticism is the first step to progress. Same applies here. If we feel someone is misogynistic or has some problematic views, we should discuss that. We cannot take problems like these lightly anymore. And I amhappy I am not the only one who feels that way.
Also if you read the Thread again, we are coming of a place of dissapointment and not hatred as most of us actually liked Hemant. And I personally still hope that I am wrong about him and he is not like that at all.

All in all I would request you to not confuse "criticism" with "hatred" and also not to take this forum too seriously. The forum is about exchanging our opinions and feelings about this show and that is all we do.

Thanks for reading and understanding. 😊




I love your clarity and style of communication! 😳
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I think Lissa summed it up REAL well. In any case, don't take us so seriously...I think we all have had a really great time on this forum and it's been fun talking to everybody. 🤗😆

Regarding Monali, national award or no national award...she's been engaging in some national level shenanigans and so no regrets for calling her out! 😛
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: DracarysTrio

I have been a silent reader of this forum, and I have noticed most of the people here don't leave a chance of dissing these two, if their singing talent isn't enough, they bring out their personal lives, comments made by them to hate them..
First Monali - She is a national award winning singer, how can people even think that she's not a good singer? I can understand you don't like her voice fine, but people made a thread about Chetan saying "Wow", just to belittle her, So she made an insensitive remarks against Rainit, which was wrong of course, but I can understand that she must have felt that Rainit was faking it, it's not uncommon, it shouldn't have been done, she shouldn't have said it on live stage, but hello, we can't hang her because you hate her, now can we?


Hemant - He is such an amazing singer, I have seen him experimenting with different songs every week, in first few weeks, I never thought he could ace something like "Satrangi Re", but I have noticed people love to hate him, Monali asking Rainit about his disability is insensitivity, and people here digging for Hemant's family, posting his videos, which have nothing to do with his music, is not? Or even speculating that he lied about his age? But these people love Rohan Preet, who is getting votes for his face and apparently his province, he is average singer at best, I have never enjoyed his performance, I don't connect with him and I don't really see how women liking him is relevant to his singing? Anyway, what's wrong with Hemant saying whoever he is, is because of his father? How is this patriarchal? If you can't find something to hate him, fish out a non issue and jump guns?
In Dangal movie, when Geeta says whoever she is, is because of her father, was that patriarchal? No, we saw it was her father, who worked day and night for her, Same goes for Hemant, it is his father's dream, he loves his father, doesn't mean he doesn't love his mother, and honestly, how is his personal life even a matter?



@Bold how can you say that


Rohan has won audience's heart with his talent .❤️
He doesn't do melodrama like so called brijhwasis .


Province matlab ?

Punjab is just 2% of India .😳
moreover Akhtar brother are also from Punjab
So this alleged Punjab factor is a baseless thing.

Reality is
Janta can connect with soul soothing performances of Rohan , Zaid and Vishnumaya. 😳


Roha doesn't bring his personal life for votes .
😭
Even when Ravi goes overboard Rohan has never crossed his limit .


About Monali - I guess all were joking .😆
Edited by BangBang_Shilpa - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Colors is promoting this entire show on personal stories🤔 ,asking audience to vote not just on singing but on personal stories as well...
So why shouldn't the audience bring up these issues😕 ..
See they themselves want us discussing patriarchy 😛

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prq1Ks5E_yY[/YOUTUBE]
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: pjyo

Colors is promoting this entire show on personal stories🤔 ,asking audience to vote not just on singing but on personal stories as well...

So why shouldn't the audience bring up these issues😕 ..
See they themselves want us discussing patriarchy 😛

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prq1Ks5E_yY[/YOUTUBE]


Haha exactly. They talk so much about their personal stories on the show.
Can't watch the video .. what are they saying?
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Show's tagline was soch ki deewar so we were just discussing hypocracy of makers, on one hand we are shown mamta as raising equality wall for females, others side we are seeing hemant saying ek aurat ka nhi aadmi ka hath.. itne contradictions??

and did monali receive national award I doubt? it can be mention but full fledged national award and even if she won she is mediocre singer for me and does not deserve to judge the show.. we are not being rude to her its just difference of opinion b/w u and us 😊
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I respect everyone's opinion, I understand that diversity is rule of nature. How attributing your achievements to your father is misogynistic or primitive or regressive? Diversity is the key point, no? "Behind every man there's a woman", it's a saying, if he had said "This is wrong, behind a man's success, there's no woman" that would have been misogynistic, but he was not generalizing it, he was talking about himself and his life. If he feels that his father has done a lot for him, what's wrong in it?
As I pointed out an example from the movie Dangal, I never felt the movie was misogynistic, even when Geeta's mom was absent from biggest moment of her life.

When it comes to being regressive, I'd say why a woman is behind a man? Why not with him? This is a long debate and I am not up for it.

"So called Brijwasis" doing drama, I guess Colors is trying to cash in on their popularity, the difference is that they are being promoted as singers in a singing reality show, not as a Romeo.

About Monali, I do feel people are too harsh on her, from her looks to her singing, it's just not done, she is indeed a national award winner, not saying that makes her the best in the world, but I'd say she's surely not that bad, a lot of hard works goes into establishing yourself in any career.

There are over 2cr people in Punjab province, not all of them will vote for Rohan, but these community votes do play a role, example Gurjar community's votes for Manveer Gurjar in Bigg Boss, people go for door to door campaigning and all... It's all on the surface, I am not saying that's the only reason for Rohan to get the votes, but yes, rising star people don't promote him as a singer.

And at last, I agree that "Hate" was too strong a word, I agree so I take it back, I was rummaging through my vocabulary and couldn't stop at something between hatred and Dislike.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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@TM
Lisa has summed up most of what I wanted to say. Let me just add:

You have to admit that today's recording artist doesn't have to stretch himself or herself that much when they record a song. These days, it's all in the mixing and multi-track recording, pitch correction, overdubbing and so on.(I don't profess to understand the technical details of the recording process but have heard many singers comment on this themselves). The real test of a singer, imo, is when they sing live. I don't doubt Monali's caliber or the fact that she may have won a National award, but to me, her singing sounds weak when I hear her live.

About her comment to Raenit, I still think it was in poor taste and uncalled for. It is exactly victim blaming that is so rampant in our country. Disability is very hard to live with and if you are suspecting someone of lying about it on National Tv, then that is the lowest point of humaneness that you have reached. Empathy maybe hard for some people and maybe even compassion, but the very least one can do as a human is to not doubt the veracity of a person confessing to his/her disability in front of a TV audience. Rainit offered to show her his scar! She put him in such a defensive position and that was wrong on so many levels. I have to disagree on this and I maintain my stand. Monali was wrong and I think she knew it too, because in Rainit's very next performance she tried to sugarcoat what she said.

I'm not sure about what happened between Chetan and Monali - I think I may have missed that bit.

About Hemant- I have no doubts about his talent. He is an amazing singer and I have said that he deserves to win too. I agree, Rohanpreet is weaker compared to him, but then again am not willing to vouch for regionalism or his chocolate-boy looks being the only reasons for him getting votes. Vishnumaya comes from Calicut and I know for a fact that Hindi shows are not much watched in the South. Yet she consistently gets votes close to 90%. It means people appreciate her singing. Yes, in the end, regionalism or favoritism maybe what will make the difference in deciding the winner but right now all 5 singers are more or less on par and it's hard to predict who will be the winner.

In regard to the channel branding the contestants a certain way - they do that with everyone. The Brijwasis have become a brand name, they have Hemant and Akhtar Bros perform on every episode and never fail to point out what great singers they are. Rohanpreet is the heart-throb, Zaid is the cute, shararti, innocent baccha, Chetan is the guy with swag, and Vishnumaya is Thangabali 🤪.As a South Indian, I can't tell you how offensive this is to me on so many levels. In this day and age, this kind of regional stereotyping is so tacky! 👎🏼 So she doesn't know Hindi. Does that mean they have to make her do gross impressions and laugh at her? No one bothers to speak to her in a language she understands. Shankar is a tamilian, he could try to at least talk to her, convey what is being said. She just stands there with a dazed look on her face. One may argue that this is a Hindi show, but that doesn't stop some contestants and even Diljit from lapsing into Punjabi every chance they get!

I have no problems with Hemant attributing his success to his father. It's the absolute lack of mention of any of the women in his family that mystifies me. I also pointed out that that seems to be the case with Zaid too. It's not just the Brijwasis. And I agree with the other posters who have said that it's the channel that keeps bringing up personal stories in a bid to stir up controversy and debate. That said, again, I hope it's not the case and the Brijwasis don't come from a clan of people that believes in sidelining women. I actually missed that comment that Hemant made about aurat ka haath and mere paapa ka haath and even if he did say that I have no problem with it. I don't consider that statement to be misogynistic per se, but coupled with the lack of mention of any women in the Brijwasi's life, it does seem fishy to me, I'm all for giving them the benefit of doubt though.

None of this takes away from the talent that Hemant has and I'm sure everyone in this forum has acknowledged that. Each of us may still have a personal favorite that is not Hemant. Nothing wrong with that! The Akhtar bros are terrific too, but they fail to strike a chord in me. It's all very subjective, don't you think?
Edited by LizzieBennett - 7 years ago

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