The hands you take and the hands you leave Part 63-Updated page 149 - Page 58

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Posted: 7 years ago
There is absolutely no way I will be ok with the way Satrupa threatens Panditayen. The Pandits are not a bank you can deposit kids in and withdraw them at will nor a toy shop where they sell dolls. Satrupa does not know what being a mother is. She is not the kind of mother Panditayen is. I don't care what Satrupa's past is. She did suffer losses, but it has made her a sociopath.
Baldev does not treat her well, they don't even have a good marriage. She is more LM Bahu than wife. I don't think she was a good mother to Vatsalya, more like a good friend. If she was a good mother she would not treat Panditayen like this. Her main identity is LM Bahu because through that she got immense power.

I believe she was the original Abhimanyu. She sacrificed a lot, but she lost her soul. She is beyond dark for me today because of what she did to Panditayen. She thinks unlike Abhimanyu she survived the Chakravayuh alive, she knows the way back and she can protect Ladoo. But she cannot. You cannot go into a Chakravayuh without damage. Ladoo is an athletic child. I think the price he could pay is physical disability.

The battle of LM is to strip away the arrogance, pride, demanding attitude of LM I think. Satrupa is guarding what ? RS is just an excuse for them. Today I lost all respect for her.

But I want to mention specially Narayani Shastri. I hated Satrupa today, probably will always if anything happens to Ladoo. But I just loved NS today. The last character I hated but admired the actor so much was Manish Wadhwa as Niranjan Agnihotri in IPKKND EBP. It is such a treat to watch such fabulous actors play complex parts.
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Posted: 7 years ago
Satrupa is in an unenviable position. Sudha tried to play her cards by offering support. Refusing to leave his side in times of need unlike the way he had lefther when she was in need of hishelp. The way she says she understands his pain of losing his son...the expression on Baldevs face was strange. Each character made a movee today exceptt Vikku and Avdoot. Satrupa s may have looked ruthless threatening police action. Some people like Madhu understand fear more quickly than reasoning.
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@Mangothyme it was expected you hate Satrupa. It is completely expected. See to take love and adulation for a task completed anyone can do. But to take the hatred on oneself for a mission well it requires something different. Something really different. You are right, Satrupa is the bahu of LM, the Shakthi of LM and its mindset. To take that shakthi out, the shakthi has to come out in full glory. The power of LM in all darkness. We are seeing that now. That power will go, as I said the bahu will be defeated. That is where the identity comes. The bahu of LM has no identity, it is just reflection of LM's power. But Satrupa the woman has identity. For that identity to come out, this reflection has to go, it has to get defeated. It can be defeated only and only if it exposes itself. Satrupa the bahu of LM has exposed herself completely today.
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Posted: 7 years ago
One more thing we have to know, when Abhi died in Chakravyuha the power of Narayan, the Narayani sena was also part of that Chakravyuha. Narayan had given the choice to Arjuna, either me without weapon or my Narayani Sena. Arjun choose Narayan without weapon. And Narayani sena his power went to opposite side.
Narayan could have stopped Narayani Sena from fighting. Narayan could have made Narayani Sena fight the Kauravas to stop the brutality. He didnt do it. Because Narayani Sena was supposed to fight for Kauravas. Does that mean Narayan betrayed Arjuna, he betrayed dharma, he was not good. No right. This show of power was needed for Arjun to open his eyes, it was needed for exposing adharmis, the hypocrisy so that Arjun fight the war for what it is.

Power of Satrupa, bahu of LM has to fight for LM. She has to. But the mother, the woman with this usage she is opening the eyes of Anami to something big, she is pounding at Anami's belief of society, opening her eyes towards truth so that Anami fight the war for what it is.
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Posted: 7 years ago
Every coin has two sides. I choose to see Satrupa as a woman on whom has been thrust a ruthless deamenour. I choose to believe that she was an extraordinary woman devoted to her son who reciprocated her love.
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Posted: 7 years ago
Shruthi, TA on SAtrupa. I feel bad for her. Anami has shaken the core of her identity in LM.Even after being banished from Bal Dev's life for years, Sudha has proofs in a photo,in a love child that she was loved by BD.Satrupa can never claim him as her love, only as her husband.She scolds Sudha,"That family never accepted you & never will", she doesn't say, " Baldev doesn't give a damn for you now".

That's for Baldev to say, and I'm bit concerned after today's song & Sudha's entry into his private room.😆She certainly has a plan to trap him and I'm wondering whether the song resuming after a break means their relation will start again.

SAtrupa has promised Madhu she'll return her son safely, am sure she won't let him come in harm's way.

I feel Dadi knows that Adhi is Dheeru's son. She was the one who invited him along with his kids to the puja,she remembered their childhood names
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Satrupa's actions must be judged after we know the entire history. For her to have given up her newly born child could not have been for any lesser reason. Anami is forcing her to take these drastic steps.Satrupa gave her the choice of leaving LM, which Anami rejected and made use of her Shanthi ( court order) to arm twist LM people to let Sudha stay. Satrupa knows what she is letting herself in for. She will cover her grounds properly asfar as Sudha is concernedBut Pujan will be the one who is her risk because she is not aware of his plots..
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@Mangothyme it was expected you hate Satrupa. It is completely expected. See to take love and adulation for a task completed anyone can do. But to take the hatred on oneself for a mission well it requires something different. Something really different. You are right, Satrupa is the bahu of LM, the Shakthi of LM and its mindset. To take that shakthi out, the shakthi has to come out in full glory. The power of LM in all darkness. We are seeing that now. That power will go, as I said the bahu will be defeated. That is where the identity comes. The bahu of LM has no identity, it is just reflection of LM's power. But Satrupa the woman has identity. For that identity to come out, this reflection has to go, it has to get defeated. It can be defeated only and only if it exposes itself. Satrupa the bahu of LM has exposed herself completely today.


I have always had problems with understanding parts of the Mahabharata. Like how could Yudishtra pawn Drauapdi. It's a question she asked him. It is one of the triggers of the war. Yet he is the upholder of Dharma. To me Yudishtra violated her personhood, her independence. She does not belong to him to use as he pleased. Something similar happened to Ladoo and even Panditayen today. Satrupa has no right over Ladoo, she had some right over Anami but not Ladoo, he is not hers to use. This is the same tevar that Yudshtra had. I can do whatever I can with this person. This action of hers could be a trigger for the war and destroy many people as Vikram warned her.

I understand the need for an Abhimanyu. I understand the need for a jolt for Anami the Arjuna. But we should also remember that Abhimanyu went into the Chakravayuh willingly, he was not thrust into it. Satrupa was thrust into it. I think by Dadi. That is why their relationship was a rift till they bonded over the loss of Vatsalya and Anami coming. Now Satrupa is thrusting a young boy into the dangerous Chakravayuh, a boy who is a child, whose voice has not even changed, whose whole life is ahead of him. The Abhimanyu of the Mahabharata lived a full life of man before he died, he was a husband and a would be father I think. But Ladoo is just a child, innocence was what was thrust in today into the Chakravayuh.

One of the little vignettes I love in the Mahabharata is the one where Karna aims an arrow at Arjuna's heart and misses because Krishna drives the chariot into the ground. It hits Arjuna's head gear and Krishna praises Karna for the shot which irritates Arjuna. To which Krishna replies telling him all the advantages Arjuna has and Karna does not. Yet look at the battle he has given Arjuna. Then Krishna asks the all important question, "Where would you be without me". The truth is despite Arjuna's great accomplishments Krishna took away a lot of his obstacles like Ekalavya.

I expect an upholder of Dharma to be fair as in clear Black and white. when you get into the grey how much grey is ok.

Ladoo was brought to destroy Sudha. But I think that innocence and deliberate act will destroy LM also. LM wasis have used their power and advantage to demand from people, not ask. They have used people for their advantage, stomped on them. People like Dheeru. And the Bahus have led the charge for two generations. I found the story Dadi tells Anami today interesting of meeting Vikram reminding us she too is a Bahu of LM on a day when the LM Bahu Avatar of Satrupa was at its most obnoxious. It is interesting the destruction will come at the hand of the reluctant Beti of LM. At the end of this, there will be a new LM, a more just LM because of the parvarish of the Pandits. That is something the Bahus of LM who are the keepers of the LM tradition never anticipated.
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Posted: 7 years ago
A patriarchal society operates on the assumption that the male is the owner and women are subservient and can be dispensed at will. Marriages have always been to safeguard , consolidate or expand this power and women had to surrender in most cases to the power of the male or earn their wrath.
Lal Mahal has had only son's. It is Gayathri who wishes for a girl. Maybe that is why she accepts and bonds with so fast.
A weak man like Vichitra virya needed Bheeshma to win his bride for him. Amba stands up for love but is spurned by her lover thus prompting her to take several lives intending to destroy Bheeshma.

Satrupa has been cheated. She has been given the power of RS as she accepted their dictates. Why Sudha was spurned but claims to be the bahu, babhi we await to know. Media screams about the relationship and no damage control is done with reference to Satrupas feelings by anybody.
Sudha anticipates a gameplan by Satrupa and consolidates her move by approaching Baldev and promising undying support. How is he , the weakest link going to respond? Does he have any sense of remorse? Is he a mere puppet? Why does he allow Sudha to manipulate despite knowing her intention can never be noble?
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: moonwearer

A patriarchal society operates on the assumption that the male is the owner and women are subservient and can be dispensed at will. Marriages have always been to safeguard , consolidate or expand this power and women had to surrender in most cases to the power of the male or earn their wrath.

Lal Mahal has had only son's. It is Gayathri who wishes for a girl. Maybe that is why she accepts and bonds with so fast.
A weak man like Vichitra virya needed Bheeshma to win his bride for him. Amba stands up for love but is spurned by her lover thus prompting her to take several lives intending to destroy Bheeshma.

Satrupa has been cheated. She has been given the power of RS as she accepted their dictates. Why Sudha was spurned but claims to be the bahu, babhi we await to know. Media screams about the relationship and no damage control is done with reference to Satrupas feelings by anybody.
Sudha anticipates a gameplan by Satrupa and consolidates her move by approaching Baldev and promising undying support. How is he , the weakest link going to respond? Does he have any sense of remorse? Is he a mere puppet? Why does he allow Sudha to manipulate despite knowing her intention can never be noble?

. Yup!! I m really afraid for baldev i just wish he not agai fall in the trap of sudha 😡. And sudha also try to use ladoo against satrupa . Anami is looking not at all happy in precap 🤢

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