Useless Diya, the karma effect - Page 3

Originally posted by: nancy505

bohot bada dhamaka...ratan will be shaken up

Originally posted by: foresight

By the time Diya's patience gives in ratan will become use to her being around and then Diya will explode the bomb that she wants to walk out of this marriage...my guess is that initially ratan would be happy but her cold behavior will hurt him as by then Diya would stop extra efforts she is putting in now.

Edited by 111192 - 7 years ago

Originally posted by: 111192

By the time Diya's patience gives in ratan will become use to her being around and then Diya will explode the bomb that she wants to walk out of this marriage...my guess is that initially ratan would be happy but her cold behavior will hurt him as by then Diya would stop extra efforts she is putting in now.

Originally posted by: foresight

If you look at Diya's character, she is someone who is all head. she is strong. she had a laser sharp focus on her goal and in pursuit of it she didn't care about anything else. she was willing to sacrifice everything for that one goal. her happiness. her life even.

but at that very time as well, she was a daughter who lived in the guilt of having her her parents. it was shown many times when she shed tears after eesha's taunts. she was also someone who after all of this wanted to be a wife and live that life showering her husband with love and that meant cooking amazing food for him.

once her protector duty was done, her only aim was making things right with her parents. doing what they ask of her. and at some point that marraige with abhay.

when she made promise to maan...somewhere even though she was losing so much, it felt right in her head and her heart. that she was doing the right thing. now when she has promised her father, she knows in her head and her heart it was wrong thing. but she has promised to do what they want for their happiness. so you have a diya who is doing things she doesnt agree with and believe it. she cannot have that same sharp focus right now until that is resolve.

her idea of following her parents wishes...and theirs too...in fact their blunt instructions are that she should keep ratan happy...do what her new family wants...dont fight with them and object. make this relationship work by hook or crook.

but how do you go about doing that when that isn't exactly what you would agree to normally. how do you do that when you know ratan isn't exactly happy with this ...how do you do it when your head is buzzing and world is rotating and revoling faster than you can grasp it. you do it by trying to find your footing and till then you stay quite and not react...coz you don't know what to react to.

that doesnt mean she too isn't a time bomb ticking to explode or that she doesnt have a limit in this docile behaviour or that she doesnt need a vent out.

i don't think that is being gopi bahu, is it? she is married one day in unhappy and unwanted circimstances to someone who isn't ready for it and being pressured into making the moves left right centre while listening to taunts of age that she cannot at this point even this of countering coz there is too much else going on in her head.

i can make a similar thesis on ratan...but you get the point.

are there some small gaps like how did yash know about all this? yes. but are they big in the way that story or its flow is inconsistent or character reactions (not just DiRa but other major ones) inconsistent? and the answer is no. they are reacting how they would.

i have seen too many stories where the characters are actually butcher and their reactions are no longer consistent. Sanskaar in swaragini was a classical example of this. that isn't what is happening here.. not yet

lets give the maker some breather. only saying this because this is the ONLY show that i have seen where the writers have actually preempted our points and questions and actively answered them in the show quickly enough...like Yash talking about Diya being docile.

Originally posted by: poppinss

I think we talked about this in my other post. Since i am sooo cheesed off with the characterization I am posting like crazy today. Am a totally vella girl today 😆😆

1 She agreed to get married. But not be treated as a commodity to be bedded by Ratan. Any girl I'd agree but not Diya given her experience, achievements and self respect.

she is not being treated as commodity to her "knowledge" why would she object? mentioned that in my other post. she knows ratan. she has no objections to wearing western clothes. just not short revealing ones. she has after all been in tracks herself. she knows ratan wont see this portrait or this dress or want her to put in on to commodities her. ratan may be immature, but this even he will not do. why is she being expected to telepathically know what KM and nitya are up to?

2 She talked during the Abhay marriage break sequence, she has not given anyone the right to insult her till date or some such thing. So why is she doing this to herself not to mention Ratan. (Not justifying Ratan's act, that is another story I do not even want to go into)

she gave no one the right to question her dignity or her character. but is that under threat here? yes ratan did act like a idiot when he dragged her...but that is more rash reaction of his rather than questioning her character. that is one thing even she knows he wont do even in his idiotic state. she understands him more than you think. she knows he is ticking time bomb and she is trying to keep her word to her mom and not make him ticker faster and explode more. she is already recovering from the marriage plus him being hurt in the bum, his back hurting because of the bed breaking, his jacket tearing because of her...etc. after all those where she is feeling guilty and nervous (because she is doing something she is not happy with thx to mom dearest n awkwardness of equation change) she is trying to get through one thing without mess only to have the dress tear.

3 Not questioning marriage. He and She both fulfilled the promise of marriage. 7 vows is not given only by Diya is it? who said they are. have there been any scenes from the makers implying ratan can go scot free? hasnt yash been trying to tell this to ratan or nitya to KM? but the question is are they in a state to follow those immediately? the answer is no. unfortunately when it comes to Diya..her mom and KM are being hypocritical. is that wrong yes. Is that out of character for those women - no. should Diya object..she will once she finds her footing. she is being grown and understanding right now giving ratan time..even though she haste been given it. is she wrong in trying to be considerate when she knows what it feels like?

4 Diya is not being given responsibilities of a Bahu. She is being made into something that would please Ratan. Rasams ok, but the family portrait scene was pathetic. No one asked why the master painter painted the 2 like that. Not to mention how he predicted their Happy ever after.

have answered this before a few times. so wont go into it again.

5 By dragging Diya like that Ratan was not just insulting Diya but also his own family in front of a stranger. Why does no one from the family react? Not even Yash

have said in different place they should have. at least Yash should have. never expected KM to. Nitya doesnt take risks herself she shoots using someone else's shoulder..so didn't expect her to. but then again, history has shown that ratan doesnt listen to anyone when he is in fit. expect diya sometimes. and yash never objects imm in the moment of need...only provides support later. it is always ratan who jumps in...be it to shut CT during fake track or abhay during marraige track. so everyone is behaving as they always have.

6 Everyone talks only about Ratan ruining his life including Yash. Seriously!!!

true. that is not great. but i cannot chalk it down to bad writing. his family obviously only cares about him more. hers about making her marriage success for their reasons. remember if they did care, marraige wouldnt have happened in first place. and yash while concerned for both, see ratan as the one more weaker of the two..he and KM look at ratan as though he is going to fall apart and breakdown just if they look at him. diya, yash sees as someone stronger who can hold on and make this work. but clearly ratan's family's loyalty is with him even yash and has been. remember jail scene. when ratan said jail me if you think i am wrong...yash backed off even though it was illegal to cage diya.

7 Logic - why did Diya have to climb on the bed to move the flowers she could have done it from the sides too... I am nuts to be talking logic in ITV... but still 😆😆

that was solely to make the bed break 😆 😆 😆

I agree the makers are doing this under the trp pressure, and I am continuing to watch the show. I only watch Sony shows, for obvious reasons. The shows are minimal in drama compared to other channels. Also the drama is much more tasteful here to cater to the urban audience.

But somehow, RLHN has disappointing with the current track. This is not a consistent character sketch of Diya nor Ratan. I hope they answer these questions in the coming week and not stretch this stumped Diya track for long. there is no inconsistency..have answered this in the other post. each person has multiple facets. you cannot expect them to not show the other facets under duress esp when there have always been signs of these very facets in them right from day one.

Another point is... Diya has not accepted this marriage. That is what she had conveyed to her sister before moving into Ratan's room. When she has not accepted the actual facts of marriage... why is she acting otherwise.

she never said she didn't accept marraige. she is not ready to proceed with it just yet because she doesnt know how to deal with it. the reason why she is still trying without some time off is because of the call with her mom and pressure from her mom. plain and simple.

Getting forced into a marriage is one thing and with someone much younger and who is not into you is another thing altogether.

was that something she or ratan had planned - no? how does getting forced change in either case when the situation was not in their hand? it is not as though she isn't worried about it.

This show is not set in a village either. Look at Niya bua sa's hair cut, or the fact that she is divorced. Diya's sis is divorced and remarried. Sakshi or Diya's sis do not have children. But as many have pointed out... when it comes to Diya everything becomes super traditional 😃

it is not becoming traditional so much as the parties involved are different. the reality in india is daughters are treated diff vs DIL. KM is no different in that. just like she molly coddles his son Ratan...she molly coddles her daughter. there is a reason she and her hus are staying at kesar mahal enjoying the benefits. when it comes to KM and Esha...she could care less. lets not forget they haven't treated nitya or her family well ever. Ayush has said this many times. but when it comes to Diya..her daughter in law...all rules apply. reality of indian saas.

now Diya's mom is a diff story. she wants both her daughters to please their husbands...remember esha was not supposed to have a maika if she left her husband. diya is under no less pressure from her. again characteristic of some indian moms...and diya's mom is consistent in that. i think she is not pushing esha much is because they are thankful that even after being a widow someone married her again. not great mentality...but you need to understand that is diya's mom consistency so in this entire RLHN serial.

at the end of the day irrespective of what KM and diyas mom expect of her...what will happen is what diya and ratan what. and they are not going to live up to any of these expectations. ratan will make sure even if diya's mom tries to emotionally blackmail her

Originally posted by: foresight

Originally posted by: 111192

So true...if 30 year old Diya has started behaving like 18year old PPK Diya than whats wrong if 21 year old Ratan is throwing tantrums like 9 year old Ratan...marriage has suddenly reduced their mental age by 12 years 🤣

Did I ask you to marry me? :-D Just for this line, I am once again in love! 😳

Originally posted by: foresight

she is wearing heels even now...but as she said, these were literally 4-5 inch ones...standing on mountain. diya may not have worn a dress...she was too focused on practical clothing but they haven't shown her being uncomfortable with this dress. she was uncomfortable with the party dress because it was too short. and you can see that she was shocked only about the length from her expression. so don't think they are trying to show she cannot wear it. ..it is just that that is not her choice of clothing because she feels wife dressing is xyz. being a wife is new uncomfortable zone for her. it was even with abhay. one where she is unsure and not her confident self. in this, she needs someone to say it is okay u are not best here...you are best somewhere else. unfortunately the one she would like to hear it from hasnt said it yet because he is lost in his own fearful hell.

losing freedom is ratan's biggest fear. not being able to be good at being a good wife is diya's worst fear.

they have both come face to face with worst fear. with the one person who was their biggest supporter (eo) not being there to help calm them down now.

Originally posted by: poppinss

They are trying to copy Ms Congenially here... Only issue is... Bullock was all balls there and Diya is all bahu here 😔