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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: jslakshmi

:) Diya wore high heels even before sword fight on the day of raj tilak. It is funny.

Even for the dress repair, does diya need her sister's help? Does she need to wait till she comes at 1:30? Cannot diya call someone? workers at home? boutique people? She used to plan and arrange everything for RAtan..

For removing flower strands, does she need to climb bed?

But remaining things look quite reasonable for me

Of course someone good at some area need not be good at all. Everybody has to accept where they need improvement and work on them.

I dont blame ratan. Poor chap not ready for marriage, suddenly married to his masterni, who used to scold him continuously, unable to accept her as wife, with lot of tantrums for all around, meeting with multiple accidents continuously without having time to calm down.

When diya herself is in shock and behaving foolishly, what can we expenct from ratan?



So true...if 30 year old Diya has started behaving like 18year old PPK Diya than whats wrong if 21 year old Ratan is throwing tantrums like 9 year old Ratan...marriage has suddenly reduced their mental age by 12 years 🤣
Edited by 111192 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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what they said at that party is going to come to bite both of them. "Boring" and "useless". "doesnt not even try something"..."is stuck in own way of thinking"..."i don't care about society" "i don't need to please anyone" "do something for the other person"
except this time it will be in reverse. diya is now useless. she is the one trying. ratan has lost his sense of humour and has become rigid in his thinking.

they will be back to old self...ratan cannot say all head too long and diya cannot stay all heart.

but for that, something big will need to happen again that brings them back.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: C0raline



Is it me or Diya was comfortable wearing high heals even when she had twisted ankle? (remember old episodes?)

Suddenly they are trying to show Diya as some gaav se aayi ladki who is too unpolished for the London ka Baabu?

Are we supposed to forget that Diya was a polished and accomplished woman who had no qualms about wearing track suits?


she is wearing heels even now...but as she said, these were literally 4-5 inch ones...standing on mountain. diya may not have worn a dress...she was too focused on practical clothing but they haven't shown her being uncomfortable with this dress. she was uncomfortable with the party dress because it was too short. and you can see that she was shocked only about the length from her expression. so don't think they are trying to show she cannot wear it. ..it is just that that is not her choice of clothing because she feels wife dressing is xyz. being a wife is new uncomfortable zone for her. it was even with abhay. one where she is unsure and not her confident self. in this, she needs someone to say it is okay u are not best here...you are best somewhere else. unfortunately the one she would like to hear it from hasnt said it yet because he is lost in his own fearful hell.

losing freedom is ratan's biggest fear. not being able to be good at being a good wife is diya's worst fear.

they have both come face to face with worst fear. with the one person who was their biggest supporter (eo) not being there to help calm them down now.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: C0raline



Is it me or Diya was comfortable wearing high heals even when she had twisted ankle? (remember old episodes?)

Suddenly they are trying to show Diya as some gaav se aayi ladki who is too unpolished for the London ka Baabu?

Are we supposed to forget that Diya was a polished and accomplished woman who had no qualms about wearing track suits?


Agreed... even I think that they're making Diya look like this typical village girl even though she is the same girl who had worn an Adidas tracksuit in the second episode, who drove an open jeep like a pro, who was an action queen, who knew exactly how to use a gun, who spoke perfect English and who wore 3 inch heels beneath her lehenga everyday ( maybe 2.5 inches but I did notice that she wore heels)...
She knows perfectly how to use technology and how to manage the whole business singlehandedly... She was like the perfect aaj ki naari who was this badass chicka who I felt I could look upto but now the writers are portraying her as an ablaa naari and a clumsy girl who can't even put on a dress without tearing it... They are ruining her tigress character and strong personality... They are probably doing this to show her extremely "bemail" to Ratan (in their own words it's a "bemail" jodi..) Even Ratan is not like this rich spoilt London return brat... he was a lovely person in tbe staring episodes... he was never this snotty I-hate-these-stupid-rituals kind of guy... remember how earnestly and wholeheartedly he had taken part in his coronation rituals and all other things...even the rituals that he had to do with Diya when they were faking a love affair...
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Diya has suddenly changed into this Gopi bahu and Ratan into Ahemji. Even EKs shows are better... This sure is Rashmi or Gul stuff.
Cause the writers can't remember how they developed their own chargers. The peheridar suddenly becomes the door mat.

And I'd Ratan not from London? How did he get away with treating ppl like this back there?

Also was Ratan not in touch with anyone for the past 12 years? How did Yash know about all of Ratans hiking accidents? Do the CV mean to say that all those happened before Ratan was even 9! That would mean his parents are very very irresponsible!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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They are trying to copy Ms Congenially here... Only issue is... Bullock was all balls there and Diya is all bahu here 😔
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: poppinss

Diya has suddenly changed into this Gopi bahu and Ratan into Ahemji. Even EKs shows are better... This sure is Rashmi or Gul stuff.

Cause the writers can't remember how they developed their own chargers. The peheridar suddenly becomes the door mat.

And I'd Ratan not from London? How did he get away with treating ppl like this back there?

Also was Ratan not in touch with anyone for the past 12 years? How did Yash know about all of Ratans hiking accidents? Do the CV mean to say that all those happened before Ratan was even 9! That would mean his parents are very very irresponsible!


If you look at Diya's character, she is someone who is all head. she is strong. she had a laser sharp focus on her goal and in pursuit of it she didn't care about anything else. she was willing to sacrifice everything for that one goal. her happiness. her life even.

but at that very time as well, she was a daughter who lived in the guilt of having her her parents. it was shown many times when she shed tears after eesha's taunts. she was also someone who after all of this wanted to be a wife and live that life showering her husband with love and that meant cooking amazing food for him.

once her protector duty was done, her only aim was making things right with her parents. doing what they ask of her. and at some point that marraige with abhay.

when she made promise to maan...somewhere even though she was losing so much, it felt right in her head and her heart. that she was doing the right thing. now when she has promised her father, she knows in her head and her heart it was wrong thing. but she has promised to do what they want for their happiness. so you have a diya who is doing things she doesnt agree with and believe it. she cannot have that same sharp focus right now until that is resolve.

her idea of following her parents wishes...and theirs too...in fact their blunt instructions are that she should keep ratan happy...do what her new family wants...dont fight with them and object. make this relationship work by hook or crook.

but how do you go about doing that when that isn't exactly what you would agree to normally. how do you do that when you know ratan isn't exactly happy with this ...how do you do it when your head is buzzing and world is rotating and revoling faster than you can grasp it. you do it by trying to find your footing and till then you stay quite and not react...coz you don't know what to react to.

that doesnt mean she too isn't a time bomb ticking to explode or that she doesnt have a limit in this docile behaviour or that she doesnt need a vent out.

i don't think that is being gopi bahu, is it? she is married one day in unhappy and unwanted circimstances to someone who isn't ready for it and being pressured into making the moves left right centre while listening to taunts of age that she cannot at this point even this of countering coz there is too much else going on in her head.

i can make a similar thesis on ratan...but you get the point.

are there some small gaps like how did yash know about all this? yes. but are they big in the way that story or its flow is inconsistent or character reactions (not just DiRa but other major ones) inconsistent? and the answer is no. they are reacting how they would.

i have seen too many stories where the characters are actually butcher and their reactions are no longer consistent. Sanskaar in swaragini was a classical example of this. that isn't what is happening here.. not yet

lets give the maker some breather. only saying this because this is the ONLY show that i have seen where the writers have actually preempted our points and questions and actively answered them in the show quickly enough...like Yash talking about Diya being docile.


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: foresight


If you look at Diya's character, she is someone who is all head. she is strong. she had a laser sharp focus on her goal and in pursuit of it she didn't care about anything else. she was willing to sacrifice everything for that one goal. her happiness. her life even.

but at that very time as well, she was a daughter who lived in the guilt of having her her parents. it was shown many times when she shed tears after eesha's taunts. she was also someone who after all of this wanted to be a wife and live that life showering her husband with love and that meant cooking amazing food for him.

18 year old Diya never aspired to be a working woman she was happy marrying Abhay and live life of a homemaker like cooking food for her hubby and waiting at home when he come back from 0ffice.Even now she does not want to work as when she left kesar mahal she got many job offers but she rejected all as he wanted to spend time with her family...nothing wrong with it as its personal choice if a woman wants to work of not.

once her protector duty was done, her only aim was making things right with her parents. doing what they ask of her. and at some point that marraige with abhay.

when she made promise to maan...somewhere even though she was losing so much, it felt right in her head and her heart. that she was doing the right thing. now when she has promised her father, she knows in her head and her heart it was wrong thing. but she has promised to do what they want for their happiness. so you have a diya who is doing things she doesnt agree with and believe it. she cannot have that same sharp focus right now until that is resolve.

her idea of following her parents wishes...and theirs too...in fact their blunt instructions are that she should keep ratan happy...do what her new family wants...dont fight with them and object. make this relationship work by hook or crook.

Her parents are main reason why she is taking all this S**t from ratan as she want to give one try to make this marriage work even if its an half hearted one

but how do you go about doing that when that isn't exactly what you would agree to normally. how do you do that when you know ratan isn't exactly happy with this ...how do you do it when your head is buzzing and world is rotating and revoling faster than you can grasp it. you do it by trying to find your footing and till then you stay quite and not react...coz you don't know what to react to.

that doesnt mean she too isn't a time bomb ticking to explode or that she doesnt have a limit in this docile behaviour or that she doesnt need a vent out.

We are so used to her being strong that everyone is waiting for that bomb to explode sooner than later😆

i don't think that is being gopi bahu, is it? she is married one day in unhappy and unwanted circimstances to someone who isn't ready for it and being pressured into making the moves left right centre while listening to taunts of age that she cannot at this point even this of countering coz there is too much else going on in her head.

i can make a similar thesis on ratan...but you get the point.

are there some small gaps like how did yash know about all this? yes. but are they big in the way that story or its flow is inconsistent or character reactions (not just DiRa but other major ones) inconsistent? and the answer is no. they are reacting how they would.

i have seen too many stories where the characters are actually butcher and their reactions are no longer consistent. Sanskaar in swaragini was a classical example of this. that isn't what is happening here.. not yet

lets give the maker some breather. only saying this because this is the ONLY show that i have seen where the writers have actually preempted our points and questions and actively answered them in the show quickly enough...like Yash talking about Diya being docile.


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Posted: 7 years ago
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completely agree with that you are saying. Diya is proud of who she has become...but this hasnt been what she is dreaming of. and there is nothing wrong with her wishes...it is her choice her prerogative.

and yup everyone wants her to explode...in that we sometimes forget that she is someone who is strong and resilient...and that means the bomb is going off later and not immediately like ratan's will.

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