--The Need to Say & Need to Listen--

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It's not the future that you're afraid of.
It's repeating the past that makes you anxious.

Its not the failure of past that scares you
Its repeating same mistakes makes you anxious.

Its not speaking about past that you are afraid of
Its someone there to Hear, makes you feel special.

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๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜† Watching episode & seeing how desperate Kabir is to speak up about his past...felt like title the post once again "tu jo sune, toh kehne ko bahut kuch hai--Part two" ๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜†considering Ananya darling is still apprehensive to hear about Kabir's past...no doubts, overall it looks romantic, that Ananya trusts Kabir too much, that his past doesn't matter much to her & what she had said..."jisse hum badal hi nahi sakte, uske baare mein kya sochna" it does shows her maturity & trust on Kabir...But somewhere down the line it really makes me wonder what she is afraid of...

--Does she think it will effect their present & future as a couple.
--Is she afraid, that in past may be Kabir would have been at fault & she might end up being judgmental of him...& will make her love & trust waver...
--Or just simply its "Ignorance is Bliss" for her...

But everything said & done...as important Kabir feels to say, to speak up about his past... its equally important for Ananya to hear him out...let him open up...may be he just wants someone to listen out to him...Its for Ananya to understand why Kabir feels the "need to say"...its quite possible that uptil now he didn't got a chance to voice out his version of past...may be all these years no one asked him about it, but just conveniently presumed that he had been the reason behind the divorce...or even if he actually was responsible, & he wasn't able to handle relationships in past...still he wants to give his side of story...so as to he doesn't repeats same mistakes in handling his & Ananya's relation.

For once & for all Kabir really wants to come clean of his past...by sharing it with Ananya...as a partner he takes it as his responsibility to share his past...& no matter how much Ananya denies but she surely needs to listen out...if not for herself but atleast for Kabir, so that he doesn't have to carry around the burden on his heart that his girlfriend is not aware of his past & live in constant doubt & apprehension of people taking advantage of her... or him living in constant guilt that somewhere, he is being unfair by hiding past from Ananya...irrespective she holds him responsible or not.

Infact, Kabir summed it up better & best in his Jaane se pehle "Kuch baatein sunne wale se zyada kehne wale ke liye zaruri hoti hai...Keh dene se kehnewale ka mann ka bhoj halka hojata hai " & if his JSP is a spoiler then in dat case I guess "sunnewale par koi asar nahi hoga"...

Infact I don't think at any point Kabir is apprehensive or fears, Ananya will leave him or will give second thoughts about their relation, he just needs that someone with he can share his past...Kabir wants Ananya to be that special one in his life with whom he can share anything & everything...& for that its important for her to listen...whether she likes or not, whether it effects her or not, whether its important for her or not...
About his divorce, about his past there may be something which he may not have shared with anyone ...even with Tarini for that matter, his personal feelings, what exactly he went through during that phase, how he felt...he may want an outlet to those pent up emotions, feelings...
He doesn't want to speak up to justify himself, or prove himself right & Shreya wrong...or put on whole blame on Shreya for failure of their marriage...or even if he himself feels guilty about breaking the relationship, he wants Ananya to decide if he is worth as a life partner...to be given a chance to be in relationship once again...

He just wants to present the facts & will let Ananya decide about future.

Also its important for Kabir to share his past, as in future Ananya can never hold him responsible for hiding the truth, no that she does it currently ...but by any chance if she comes to know the truth from third person, being a human being, its quite possible for her to doubt Kabir's intentions...him as a person, him as a partner...
So, its better & gonna be a relief for Kabir, if shares his past with her.


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Felt sorry for Kabir, within span of minutes got biggest of shocks of his life

--Mrs. Kashyap oops Sasu Maa, asking about past to Shreya
--bigger shock that Ananya is Shreya's friend...๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜†

Both maa-beti, indirectly & unintentionally helping Shreya ...where logically they should have been in his team...๐Ÿ˜›๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜†
Cant help but feel sorry for Kabir, what he managed to do in months that too, after so much hardwork -befriending Ananya, making her girlfriend ...impressing Mrs. Kashyap...gain their trust...& comparatively, Shreya has been able to do same in just few days dat too effortlessly...she so easily befriended Ananya, & even faster impressed Mrs. Kashyap.๐Ÿ˜›๐Ÿ˜†

Poor Kabir almost got a heart attack seeing aunty ji with Shreya...bet all of worst thoughts running in his head...๐Ÿ˜›๐Ÿ˜† but here, I really feel its unfair on part of Mrs. Kashyap to be so blunt & direct in asking Shreya "aisa kya hua tha tum dono ke beech, ki tum aur Kabir alag hogaye"...irrespective of how sweet she is being & aunty ji is in love with her new found beti, & finds her "samajhdaar" but still its not only rude asking a person whom you just meeting second time such a personal question๐Ÿ˜›๐Ÿ˜† but also shows somewhere down the line, Mrs. Kashyap is yet to fully trust on Kabir...

Was expecting Mrs. Kashyap to be more smarter & mature...I have no issues even if she wanted to know reason of divorce from Shreya only...she being a concerned mother can understand where she is coming from ...but aunty ji should have been more tactful, not a simple plain direct question...It would have been much better if after a casual conversation, Mrs. Kashyap wud have analysed & observed Shreya as person & eventually she would have popped up the question indirectly...to know what exactly kind of person Shreya is...
I guess by now, & knowing Kabir's straightforwardness Mrs Kashyap should have been smart enough to know one thing about Kabir, that he is not a kind of person who would refused or ignored her concern if she would have asked same question to Kabir...she should have atleast tried asking him once atleast, or Mrs. Kashyap has already perceived that Kabir will lie to her & Shreya would be truthful...before asking Shreya, Mrs. Kashyap should have asked Kabir, & if he would have refused than it would have been fair enough to ask Shreya.

Its surprisingly amusing that Mrs. Kashyap can ask "kya wajah thi tum dono ke divorce ki" to a woman whom she is just meeting second time, & share her apprehensions about her daughter's future to Shreya whom she have just met...but not to her to be son-in-law, whom she is knowing & meeting on regular basis...like Shreya said "behtar hoga yahi sawaal Kabir se pooche" ...

In a way Shreya kept her answer ambiguous & really hope Mrs. Kashyap, was smart enough to read b/w the lines how Shreya answered her question "rishta kyun khatam hua, iska jawab Kabir hi de sakte hai"...Hope Aunty ji realizes that directly & indirectly Shreya is trying to project herself as innocent & Kabir as guilty for whatever happen in past...I am expecting Mrs. Kashyap to be mature & smart enough to realize the hidden bitchiness in Shreya's answer to her question...

But for once if Shreya would have answered the question would Mrs. Kashyap have believed her over Kabir ?...
As in precap, Mrs. kashyap is going to meet her again...it really makes me wonder...

Does Mrs. kashyap expects Shreya to go on praising Kabir?
Does Mrs. kashyap expect that Shreya would be so "mahaan" to accept the whole blame of failure of marriage...& will it make her calm down all her worries & concern?? coz quite obviously Shreya will hold Kabir reponsible too...
Is she expecting a certificate from Shreya that how good or bad Kabir has been as a husband...& then accordingly she will decide about her daughter's future.

If Mrs. Kashyap trusts Shreya more, then I am sorry to say, that if at this stage, she cant trust Kabir, for even a truthful answer if she asks a question... then never in her life she would be able to trust Kabir & I really wonder if she is at all trusting Kabir regarding future of her daughter...

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Irrespective of Shreya's intention & her way of indirectly accusing Kabir, no doubts it has only increased Mrs. Kashyap's worries & problems for Kabir but everything said & done still I appreciate her answer...that somewhere she made a valid point, that instead of her, Mrs. Kashyap should ask this question to Kabir... & boy, I loved how Kabir was glaring at her after Mrs. Kashyap left...& It was relief to see how Kabir, placed her in a fix that "unko chinta hai, toh tum chinta kyun kar rahi ho" ....How he make her realize that she should not fake things atleast in front of him...specifically "main Ananya ki dost hoon ka natak"...๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜†

The way Shreya is underestimating Kabir & testing his patience...I don't think little warning "apne kaam se kaam rakho & personal space mein interfere karne ki koshish bhi mat karna" is not enough Kabir...๐Ÿ˜›๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜† I think soon enough Kabir needs to show his "ghaag" Kabir dose to Shreya too,๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜† as she needs to realize with whom she is playing with...๐Ÿ˜›๐Ÿ˜ณ

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Admist tension in Kabir's current situation...Ananya's teasing him came as a breath of fresh air ...though Kabir was not in a mood to be teased...but still it was fun seeing Ananya teasing him "itna miss kar rahe hai mujhe"... & felt like hugging him that moment...he so desperately needed to talk to Ananya...poor boy...
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Considering now that Kabir has made up his mind that he will share his past...hopefully Ananya will let him say everything he wants to say...& hears him out patiently & most importantly... Hopefully this time round, Kabir will be able to let her know about the past, my fingers crossed, since its green room...no disturbances/interruptions please...๐Ÿ˜›๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜†


Oh & yes, the whole political drama setting up...guess we have some intersting story for editor in chief & his GF to cover...eagerly waiting for 3K team Kabir, Khurana, Miss Kashyap...coming together once again to solve a mystery...may be for one last time as gradually move towards the season end.๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š


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Manav bhai, no doubts you have put in efforts but seriously "editor saab & his GF " didn't hijacked your show...๐Ÿ˜›they just took forward the "Manavta" which you started...& for once, I guess Shreya deserves a thank you for professionally coming in support of Kabir Sharma..."Kabir Sharma jis position par hai, usse kisi aur ki story par bhanji marne ki zarut nahi hai"...irrespective of her personal intentions...but atleast the way she dealt with Manav bhai, will indeed make him think of something more better than just bitching about editor in chief & his GF to editor in chief's ex wife...& please Manav bhai, never forget...there is a difference b/w Malvika & Shreya...don't ever think that it wud be easy to team up with Shreya as it was with Malvika...
Shreya is much sharper & smarter than her...she is more lethal & dangerous than Malvika in her gameplans...isliye Manav bhai "kuch aur sochna padega"...So, all the best...

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As of now, all the best to Kabir...hope he is able to make his GF listen to his past & dat too complete version...& if this time Ananya refuses...๐Ÿ˜›๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜† .forget revealing past to her, instead reveal it to her mother,๐Ÿ˜›๐Ÿ˜›๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜† Beti se zyada maa is more interested to know about reason of divorce...& what wrong happened in past.

All the best to Ananya too...hope she is able to patiently listen out what Kabir wants to say & my advice for her would be that before reacting to anything just think from every perspective...& ofcourse, whatever he shares, keep it to yourself girl...even if pasts upsets you & raises a doubt in mind to continue this relation or not...even if want to discuss, share it with only Kabir, as it will be only you two in this relationship...It will be you two who would writing your own love story not any third person...so whatever happens sort it out among yourself like two matured people.

GoodLuck!!

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A great future doesn't require a great past.
William Chapman


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Episode 90
August 20,2015

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Kaise likhti ho yaar..?.๐Ÿ˜› tareef karke main toh takh chuki..๐Ÿ˜‰.. i dont have words to praise you...๐Ÿ˜ณ
Your take on precap?? and 2 versions of divorce...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Fantastic analysis. Loved it
You know seeing the green room first thing that came tommy mind...hope Shreya doesnt barges in...lets hope Anu listens...and as per spoilers kabir is happy so we know Anu's reaction.
I was very disappointed with Mrs Kashyap...she too became one amongstbmany who never trusted Kabir...whe never believed his pov...
Shreya was making it look as if he was the one responsible for all that went wrong betn them...sure she will soon get to see ghagh Kabir and sherni Anu
Anita not trusting Kabir is really going to hurt him and may be make him withdraw for time being but am sure Anu will never let that happen
Shreya respects Kabir professionally and has made that evident too often and Manav too got to see that
Anu is all Kabir needs to cheer up...tosmile ...to.feel happy...just loved his change of expressions in green room...felt sorry for him...hope Anu loves him even more
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I was really feeling sad for kabir...hope he comes clean with ananya...and ananya listens to him patiently...grt analysis. ...
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Fantastic Purnima!!! Thoroughly joyed it.

Well I think Anitha is a mother so when it comes to children's future mothers can be most illogical at times and I think ananyas avoiding of discussions about certain things also did not help her to be at peace. The first blow for her was Shreyas entry... She assuming that kabeer broke his promise by not letting her know about it. The second and most important one ananya hiding things from her and her escapist attitude towards confrontations with her mother, also Ananya all praises about Shreya!!! So it's a cumulative effect I guess!!!! But I wonder why didn't she didn't ask kabeer about his past the very first time when she gave permission to him to go ahead with the relationship????? Especially when she said to kabeer herself u never know how past will resurface????

I hope Ananya listens to kabeer today ... Because when kabeer daid you have to listen about the past and then decide about their future whether to stay together or not ...we can almost see that she felt a jolt by those words... It was like her fair dreamland bubble burst and fell to the ground. Now kabeer being so serious about telling his past I am assuming she will listen to him patiently. If the cvs still show somebody interrupting or Ananya not listening still I think it would be the most stupidest plot ever. It's indeed a big burden for kabeer to carry the past and not sharing with Ananya. I am expecting a heart touching emotional scenes between them today!!!

Shreya was surprised to know that kabeer didn't share about his past with Kashyaps ... Also probably she thought how much potential she has got now to manipulate them now that she knows this. Kaberi could sense that ...already damage is done by Shreya regarding Mrs Kashyap and so kabeer became desperate and before any further damage he wanted to share with Ananya his side of story irrespective of the outcome. I'm sure if Ananya is ok with his past and stands by him he will make all efforts in the world to manofy Anitha...he will get all the strength in the world to face the problems.

Now the story has become interesting ... Testing time for Kaya ... Hope they sail together through this rough terrains!!!!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hi Purnima...
loved ur analysis...

coming to points on anita... yes her point blank frankness on questioning the reason behind the divorce was very wrong... u dont ask a person u dont even know such personal questions ...

as for her asking kabir...well she had full trust on kabir n kept saying i will speak to kabir till ananya hadnt hidden about shreya... anita's trust on kabir broke when kabir dint come n tell anita about shreya coming to KKN and even ananya hiding that from her mom... anita feels ananya has learnt to hide things only after kabir came in her life...but fact is since shreya came ananya is insecure somewhere and hence she has been hinding things from anita and kabir both...

kabir not having come and spoken to Mrs kashyap after shreya came to KKN is what has made anita mistrust kabir... i dont blame her for that... kabir had promised i will nvr let my past come in between our relationship...or my past will nvr hurt ananya's present or future...there promises seem to hv become null n void as per anita...if kabir had told her bout shreya before shreya came to their house, she wud hv still trusted kabir coz his truthfulness wud hv been the proof of his genuineness ...
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Nice analysis...as always...
It always reminds me the whole episode...


Originally posted by: -purnima-

All the best to Ananya too...hope she is able to patiently listen out what Kabir wants to say & my advice for her would be that before reacting to anything just think from every perspective...& of course, whatever he shares, keep it to yourself girl...even if pasts upsets you & raises a doubt in mind to continue this relation or not...even if want to discuss, share it with only Kabir, as it will be only you two in this relationship...It will be you two who would writing your own love story not any third person...so whatever happens sort it out among yourself like two matured people.


@ red Yes agreed with your view

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Originally posted by: yawfeh

<font color="#990000" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Kaise likhti ho yaar..?.๐Ÿ˜›tareef karke main toh takh chuki..๐Ÿ˜‰.. i dont have words to praise you...๐Ÿ˜ณ</font>

<font color="#990000" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Your take on precap?? and 2 versions of divorce...</font>



Kaise likhti ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜† haathon se ๐Ÿ˜› ๐Ÿ˜› ...
Thanx for liking & commenting ...
As for precap, there has to be two versions, being two people in relationship they bound to have their own perception about gy di tehy divorced!!!
It will depend how dignified way either Kabir & Shreya presents their side of story without blaming the other one...
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Originally posted by: sonyjknum

Fantastic analysis. Loved it

You know seeing the green room first thing that came tommy mind...hope Shreya doesnt barges in...lets hope Anu listens...and as per spoilers kabir is happy so we know Anu's reaction.
I was very disappointed with Mrs Kashyap...she too became one amongstbmany who never trusted Kabir...whe never believed his pov...
Shreya was making it look as if he was the one responsible for all that went wrong betn them...sure she will soon get to see ghagh Kabir and sherni Anu
Anita not trusting Kabir is really going to hurt him and may be make him withdraw for time being but am sure Anu will never let that happen
Shreya respects Kabir professionally and has made that evident too often and Manav too got to see that
Anu is all Kabir needs to cheer up...tosmile ...to.feel happy...just loved his change of expressions in green room...felt sorry for him...hope Anu loves him even more




Thanx for liking & commenting ๐Ÿ˜ƒ
The green room is jinxed ๐Ÿ˜† ...till I watch the episode I will not b satisfied that they will not b disturbed ๐Ÿ˜› ๐Ÿ˜† ...
Hope with time Mrs. Kashyap with time realises Kabir's goodness & starts trusting him...
It gonna b difficult for Ananya if at this stage her mom goes against their relationship
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Originally posted by: Merav

Fantastic Purnima!!! Thoroughly joyed it.

Well I think Anitha is a mother so when it comes to children's future mothers can be most illogical at times and I think ananyas avoiding of discussions about certain things also did not help her to be at peace. The first blow for her was Shreyas entry... She assuming that kabeer broke his promise by not letting her know about it. The second and most important one ananya hiding things from her and her escapist attitude towards confrontations with her mother, also Ananya all praises about Shreya!!! So it's a cumulative effect I guess!!!! But I wonder why didn't she didn't ask kabeer about his past the very first time when she gave permission to him to go ahead with the relationship????? Especially when she said to kabeer herself u never know how past will resurface????

I hope Ananya listens to kabeer today ... Because when kabeer daid you have to listen about the past and then decide about their future whether to stay together or not ...we can almost see that she felt a jolt by those words... It was like her fair dreamland bubble burst and fell to the ground. Now kabeer being so serious about telling his past I am assuming she will listen to him patiently. If the cvs still show somebody interrupting or Ananya not listening still I think it would be the most stupidest plot ever. It's indeed a big burden for kabeer to carry the past and not sharing with Ananya. I am expecting a heart touching emotional scenes between them today!!!

Shreya was surprised to know that kabeer didn't share about his past with Kashyaps ... Also probably she thought how much potential she has got now to manipulate them now that she knows this. Kaberi could sense that ...already damage is done by Shreya regarding Mrs Kashyap and so kabeer became desperate and before any further damage he wanted to share with Ananya his side of story irrespective of the outcome. I'm sure if Ananya is ok with his past and stands by him he will make all efforts in the world to manofy Anitha...he will get all the strength in the world to face the problems.

Now the story has become interesting ... Testing time for Kaya ... Hope they sail together through this rough terrains!!!!



Thanx for liking & commenting...
Indeed these are testing times for KaYa...as long as they stay together they can face anything & everything !!!

As for Mrs. Kashyap, guess Kabir will have to impress her all over again ...
Goodluck to him

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