The lacking in rangrasiya

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Posted: 11 years ago
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After so much of observation, what i have noticed is that this show has lackings in the writing itself. What bothers me most is that the writers completely choose to ignore the minor nuisances in every female character, the female characters were started off very well, be it Laila, Mala and Paro but as the show continued, there was hardly any depth in these characters.
Indian shows thrive on female characters, women need to understand and connect themselves to the women on their screen.
Lately, what bothers me the most is the ignorance for Paro's character, writers have made her character obtuse and one dimensional, the layers which Rudra's character has certainly lacks from Paro's character which makes her character the weak one.
Every scene, every frigging scene is written from Rudra's point of view, it is irritating at a point. For instance the mangalsutra scene, it was his scene, but it should have been both Paro's and Rudra's, we could see him asking forgiveness for his 8 pheras, but writers could made it their scene my showing Paro also asking forgiveness for her forcible actions over him for marrying her.
If we consider Mala, the character remains hazy, the development is so weak, that still audience will hardly feel for her, the abuse she has faced, even laila, we do not even know that why does she love Rudra, or why does she love the beast Rudra and not the changed man.

The actors are very good, i would mention Ashish and the lady who plays Mohini, these two characters are the strongest in the show and these two actors are doing full justice also, the rest of the actors are wasted, weak narration has destroyed the effort.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: fruityflavor

After so much of observation, what i have noticed is that this show has lackings in the writing itself. What bothers me most is that the writers completely choose to ignore the minor nuisances in every female character, the female characters were started off very well, be it Laila, Mala and Paro but as the show continued, there was hardly any depth in these characters.

Indian shows thrive on female characters, women need to understand and connect themselves to the women on their screen.
Lately, what bothers me the most is the ignorance for Paro's character, writers have made her character obtuse and one dimensional, the layers which Rudra's character has certainly lacks from Paro's character which makes her character the weak one.
Every scene, every frigging scene is written from Rudra's point of view, it is irritating at a point. For instance the mangalsutra scene, it was his scene, but it should have been both Paro's and Rudra's, we could see him asking forgiveness for his 8 pheras, but writers could made it their scene my showing Paro also asking forgiveness for her forcible actions over him for marrying her.
If we consider Mala, the character remains hazy, the development is so weak, that still audience will hardly feel for her, the abuse she has faced, even laila, we do not even know that why does she love Rudra, or why does she love the beast Rudra and not the changed man.

The actors are very good, i would mention Ashish and the lady who plays Mohini, these two characters are the strongest in the show and these two actors are doing full justice also, the rest of the actors are wasted, weak narration has destroyed the effort.



Nice post and I agree with you on most of this...the writing oscillates b/w being really good for some characters and not so good for others...as for the mangalsutra scene...well they showed Paro's POV by showing her crying when Rudra says "Main...tu...hamesha"...they've never bothered showing anything more going on in Paro's mind than this...hahahaha you're expecting Paro to ever feel guilty for FORCING the marriage on him? If only...if only...Paro has never regretted or apologized for any of the things she's road-rolled him into...she feels JUSTIFIED in everything she's done...😆...so I think I would faint with shock if Paro ever shows regret over the mistakes she's made...heck even ACKNOWLEDGING her own mistakes...lol only time she admitted I think was vis a vis trusting Laila and feeling bad about that...that's it😆


I will disagree though about every scene being written from Rudra's POV...since the past many weeks now, Paro's POV about Mala is being FORCED down our throats as well as Rudra's...so how is this only Rudra's POV?...they do show Paro's POV...too bad it's so one-dimensional and obtuse that it's hard to buy into.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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i agree with you post partially ,
the part i dont agree to is that female character are only butchered ,i think dilsher character was one intiquing character because he was wrong and hia character showed growth , both completely ruined it
i liked that they touched the alcoholism part , but his reaction was like he is explaining to a 10 yrd old kid who is lost , out of character

rudra again this issue defines his exsistance , but his reaction was fine but was lost in all the plot

simple thing
the plot is waferthin there is hardly any story or sense , and the reason is simple because they went for immediate short term goals ignored the larger goals (long term prospective was largely missing) important track were covered in like 2 days , just because they wanted to give the shock factor , weaken the story , lost the connect

i will say , the only way forward is there is 2 months , leave the trps , leave the short term goals , concentrate on making a very catchy plot with a new very popular actor character !
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: AreYaar



Nice post and I agree with you on most of this...the writing oscillates b/w being really good for some characters and not so good for others...as for the mangalsutra scene...well they showed Paro's POV by showing her crying when Rudra says "Main...tu...hamesha"...they've never bothered showing anything more going on in Paro's mind than this...hahahaha you're expecting Paro to ever feel guilty for FORCING the marriage on him? If only...if only...Paro has never regretted or apologized for any of the things she's road-rolled him into...she feels JUSTIFIED in everything she's done...😆...so I think I would faint with shock if Paro ever shows regret over the mistakes she's made...heck even ACKNOWLEDGING her own mistakes...lol only time she admitted I think was vis a vis trusting Laila and feeling bad about that...that's it😆


I will disagree though about every scene being written from Rudra's POV...since the past many weeks now, Paro's POV about Mala is being FORCED down our throats as well as Rudra's...so how is this only Rudra's POV?...they do show Paro's POV...too bad it's so one-dimensional and obtuse that it's hard to buy into.


yes there was Paro's point of view also, but again the whole atmosphere of the scene and then the depth, the sensitivity was limited to Rudra's character. What i am trying to say is that, i could only relate to him and not Paro, therefore i am blaming the writers.
You are being right that it has been very rare we have seen Paro guilty or apologetic for her actions, the only time her regret and apology genuinely connected was after she comes to know Tejawat's truth and apologizes to Rudra. Later they made her force herself on Rudra for a marriage, which was completely wrong from her part, i love Paro, she is a lovely character but i could not see somebody being so ignorant and obtuse for the person's feelings she wanted to marry. They finally ended the marriage track with the mangalsutra scene, but it remained incomplete because as much as Rudra needed to apologize, so did Paro, and they did not show her doing that. Even the apology she asked for trusting Laila had no impact, it was rushed, more screen time and depth was served to Rudra's scenes in that episode and they rushed Paro's breakdown part.
Recently they have started concentrating on her POV more, but still it is hard to buy, as you have mentioned, therefore i can only blame the writers. They wanted to show her point of view, but again they used the wrong path, making her force Rudra again. Instead they could have done it in a different manner which would put more light and depth in Paro's character.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ttt1

i agree with you post partially ,

the part i dont agree to is that female character are only butchered ,i think dilsher character was one intiquing character because he was wrong and hia character showed growth , both completely ruined it
i liked that they touched the alcoholism part , but his reaction was like he is explaining to a 10 yrd old kid who is lost , out of character

rudra again this issue defines his exsistance , but his reaction was fine but was lost in all the plot

simple thing
the plot is waferthin there is hardly any story or sense , and the reason is simple because they went for immediate short term goals ignored the larger goals (long term prospective was largely missing) important track were covered in like 2 days , just because they wanted to give the shock factor , weaken the story , lost the connect

i will say , the only way forward is there is 2 months , leave the trps , leave the short term goals , concentrate on making a very catchy plot with a new very popular actor character !


Sorry actually i missed out mentioning Dilsher's character in my post, i did see the damage they did to his character. I was pointing out the same thing here, the story or the writing is making very less sense now, because the condition is as such that apart from Mohini and Rudra i rarely find anything logical in the rest of the characters.
More than Dilsher or Mala what puts me off is that even Paro treats Rudra like a 10 year old, the obtuseness in her character is what i fail to buy because i watched the serial for a love story. But now i can see love only from Rudra's side and Paro's feelings does not move me, the writers again destroyed her.
And about casting another popular actor to make a catchy plot, then i would disagree, Sanaya is very popular, but her character seems nowhere in the story, and even she could not save the show going haywire. The dark horses here are Ashish, and lady who plays Mohini, because what i feel is when the serial will end, viewers will remember these two characters.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Snoowfall

I will agree with you on this , when the target shd have been female audience, the story is mostly from Rudra's POV..., they can explore the other's feelings too...especially Paro's...


as somebody mentioned that the writers are also showing her POV, but there is something which is lacking regarding the writing of her character. They needed to write her character in a more connective way and not like this where her POV is shown in every scene and every episode, but people find it hard to buy. The problem lies in the writing.
The story is from Rudra's POV , then also the story was connecting, it was interesting, but now when they took a different dimension an dtried to portray two females Mala and Paro's POV and their struggle, the story is not making sense and fails top interest me.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: fruityflavor


Sorry actually i missed out mentioning Dilsher's character in my post, i did see the damage they did to his character. I was pointing out the same thing here, the story or the writing is making very less sense now, because the condition is as such that apart from Mohini and Rudra i rarely find anything logical in the rest of the characters.
true , thats the whole issue , 2 characters cant take the show forward , personally i mohini or rudra i, yes they are in character , but i think what is important is whether being in character or what they do can generate the kind of interest , thats lacking even in rudra or mohini in short they are not interesting to watch for me ,
More than Dilsher or Mala what puts me off is that even Paro treats Rudra like a 10 year old, the obtuseness in her character is what i fail to buy because i watched the serial for a love story. But now i can see love only from Rudra's side and Paro's feelings does not move me, the writers again destroyed her.
mala ,the issue is i feel the writers are not clear what they want to do with mala , a very seasoned actor is not able to pull it off , because the director and writers are not clear what they want to do with mala , dilsher he was shown to worry about rudra's nature , repent what he did , he only he has seen the damage caused to rudra and he i responsible for that , but that ownership which was the most intriguing part of his characterization was missing in the past few episodes

And about casting another popular actor to make a catchy plot, then i would disagree, Sanaya is very popular, but her character seems nowhere in the story, and even she could not save the show going haywire. The dark horses here are Ashish, and lady who plays Mohini, because what i feel is when the serial will end, viewers will remember these two characters.
yes , but the iniital days the show got a lot of mileage because of sanaya , any new actor comes in his brings his fan base , but no actor is big enough to make audience give 20 mins every day if the show is not promoising , but he can make a new group try the show , the issue is the show has repelled a lot of audience , even this one time viewing aidience is becoming difficult for the makers , that issue can be solved by a popular guy , but yes the stickiness factor or whether they continue watching will depend upon how interesting the story is

i agree wil your point paro should be better sketched
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I guess the flow is too one dimensional! there isn't any variety.At first - Paro force Rudra to make amends with his mother, Rudra gets angry, Paro then butter up to him and then there is some romance- This cycle is going on and on and it has become repetitive. Some break, some light-hearted moments (Not necessarily between PaRud) but in general wouldn't harm at this point. Imagine Sumer, Samrat and Rudra watching Fifa world cup and having light banter while supporting their respective teams, Rudra dropping Sunheri to college and being an protective brother, a saas bahu banter between Paro and Mohini would be interesting, there are many aspects which could be explored. Surely its a love-story but other relationships are not that bad either and there is absolute none or very less progress made in that regard. I agree Rudra had a tough life but now its high-time that he starts to soften towards others also- Now its Paro or nothing- which is also moving in circles! Fight-Makeup-Romance. A little light moments here and there wouldn't harm and can surely worth a try.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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creatives need to wake up soon.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: fruityflavor


yes there was Paro's point of view also, but again the whole atmosphere of the scene and then the depth, the sensitivity was limited to Rudra's character. What i am trying to say is that, i could only relate to him and not Paro, therefore i am blaming the writers.
You are being right that it has been very rare we have seen Paro guilty or apologetic for her actions, the only time her regret and apology genuinely connected was after she comes to know Tejawat's truth and apologizes to Rudra. Later they made her force herself on Rudra for a marriage, which was completely wrong from her part, i love Paro, she is a lovely character but i could not see somebody being so ignorant and obtuse for the person's feelings she wanted to marry. They finally ended the marriage track with the mangalsutra scene, but it remained incomplete because as much as Rudra needed to apologize, so did Paro, and they did not show her doing that. Even the apology she asked for trusting Laila had no impact, it was rushed, more screen time and depth was served to Rudra's scenes in that episode and they rushed Paro's breakdown part.
Recently they have started concentrating on her POV more, but still it is hard to buy, as you have mentioned, therefore i can only blame the writers. They wanted to show her point of view, but again they used the wrong path, making her force Rudra again. Instead they could have done it in a different manner which would put more light and depth in Paro's character.



Guilt, apology, regret are the kind of human emotions that make you empathize with a character...Paro hardly ever exhibits these emotions...Rudra exhibits a whole range of emotions from the good to the bad, thus we identify with his emotions...The only human emotions Paro exhibits are more to do with a tinge of narcissism regarding how she feels that only she knows the right way of doing everything things must be done that way...but this emotion is never acknowledged by her, rather it is glorified by the writers and thus we find ourselves being even more distanced from her as viewers...nobody likes a know-it-all😆

Rudra may be temperamental and say some mean things in anger but he's been shown to regret and apologize time and again...he ADMITS his fallacies...Paro is yet to ever do that...that is the difference b/w them.

When it comes to Paro's POV, the writers only stick to showing her blind worship of ppl...be it Rudra or Mala or her "Let's fix everything in the blink of an eye and sing happy songs" fundas...

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