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Posted: 11 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: asmi279

Awesome posts...yesterday n today :D

my two cents:
wen u change in sm way fundamentally, it is difficult to revert back to who u were..that seems unnatural n undesirable..that's wat I saw today..laila ws reminding him of he way he used to be..n smwhr it did prick him..bt he cd nt identify wid it the way he used to..the moment paro came into the picture, he effortlessly slid into the miyaan wala mode..which hs nw become his natural state of being..
I dont know if that's wat the CVS wanted to show, bt that's wat I saw :P
if this theory is rt, then it wl be a rude awakening call fr laila n a surprising realization for rudra..
the only thing that cn force Rudra to revert to his former self is smthng drastic like paro leaving..that is wat terrifies me..
hoping this laila track is to pass time till ipl gets over or ashish's jdj commitment etc..otherwise its unbearable for an extended period



Ohhh I like this theory! I didn't think of it and that would definitely make for a pleasant surprise if the writers go this way...Laila ending up being thwarted and Rudra reaching a REALIZATION about his love for Paro...the heartbreak might come later after Paro leaves and THEN Rudra might go back to these doubts/regrets.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: Oldestfan

Well, Laila is wrong on one count. paro has seen the Jallad side of Rudra.. She watched him take down a baraat and blow her husbands brains out. Please watch episodes in the month of january. The hostage captor syndrome is very well played out. It is only when the thakur put a gun to her head that she saw the light! Paro knows her husband can be cruel.. He has been more than cruel in words to her. But she also knows that he never hurt her or harmed her grievously physically. He could have easily killed her in his rage. But he did not. Laila does not know that. She does not know that part of his life.

I hate when these vamps start getting all smart ass with their dialogues. Please cvs, do not go the triangle way. That whole conspiracy by Laila to get the button off was so sick. It did lead to a very cute and hot Parud scene. Paro is getting all hot and bothered by Rudras nearness now, and Rudras eyes are so soft when he looks at her! Awww!



That's a good point...I've watched the Jan epis but thanks for reminding me to watch them again😆

Yes, Paro has seen that side of him, labelled him a Jallaad over it way back then too...but the reason this keeps coming up is cuz Rudra himself keeps saying to Paro that she doesn't understand just how dark his demons are...and Laila also has known Rudra for a long time...the baraat massacre was but one chapter in his life...maybe he did other barbaric things before that that make Laila say this.


I think the main problem is that no one wants to see Laila's face hovering in the background b/w RP ke cute scenes😆


But I'm amused by all this...Laila's button scheme only ended up backfiring on her and bringing RP closer...which is how all "villains" in RR end up being...cupids...none of them pose much threat😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: bioinfo


i completely agree , laila definitely got an upper hand in this matter , she knows how to make him go back to his rude self , i hope he understands that pride is not about being free or heartless its all about being true to yourself he also needs to know her game plan and stays calm 😕



They are just tackling the age old question about how some men consider marriage as a restriction to their freedom😆

In Rudra's case, he's so besotted with and committed to Paro regardless of any official seal on their relationship that this stuff from Laila isn't going to make him push Paro away.

Laila is only reminding Rudra of his past and a past isn't easy to forget no matter how much you are willingly moving forward...that is all.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#24

Originally posted by: AreYaar



I agree...this is a delicate topic...Rudra battles dual emotions here...he feels SAFER in his detached ways, not caring for anyone...but at the same time as he's drawn to Paro, he's WARY of letting her see the so called "Jallad" side he has...he has this phobia somewhere I also think that Paro won't love him if she sees that...he does have some self-esteem issues there.


Absolutely! He does fear that... Though Paro has seen jallad side of him but during the jallad phase Paro never felt insecure wid him being around. Lets see how Rudra tackles his inner turmoil of being free n alone or being happy n tied.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#25
Finally, watched the episode.
My first paragraph, will belong to Rudra and his uniform. i felt delighted, happy, and more happier than the uniform itself to see him back in the major avatar.

coming back to the episode, the standout scene was definitely the Rudra-Laila conversation for me. I felt, laila quite well understands and knows that Rudra will not buy her pretense of this saati savitri devi. But still she will continue it and in the mean time she has mocked him by telling that a lion got reduced to a mere human being, just because of the love he felt for his wife. That could be damaging both for Rudra's ego and his state of belief in himself, but surprisingly it did prick him but did not show up in his actions post the conversation.
I think he did take laila's words by heart, and he is accepting it that he has changed a lot, and he definitely has weakened himself for Paro. Orelse should i believe that in Paro's presence his sanity goes on a vacation and he just forgets everything in her presence.
but i will go with the former option, he believes in his changed state, and he is accepting it, he accepts Paro as his wife, he has given her the right to take over his life, to have a right in his decisions, his past, present and future.

I think i liked the conversation more becaus,e i find laila best when she is with Rudra, giving him a reality check and him absorbing it with a lump in his throat. it was her who at the haldi ceremony had put him in dilemma about being in love with paro and once again, she has showed him the difference between him pre and post his marraige. what a convenient way it was, Laila definitely knows how tto go through Rudra and what affects him.

But i did not get that why did laila sing the bhajan ? doesn't she know that her doing all these will make Rudra more suspicious and make him believe that he is exactly right about her. but no, i think she is more in a mission to impress paro baisa than that off Rudra.

I liked how Laila had stopped KCM whi KCM started blabbing nonsense about Rudra's fetish for girls. i think i will give it to laila here, she has been more like a female version of the janwar Rudra. just how Rudra had said that no matter what happens between me and paro, nobody else dare talks crap about paro. similarly tonight laila has warned mohini that she better does not blab crap about "her" Rudra and she better stays aware that Rudra is not a fool to buy their nonsense. that again shows that Laila in her mind believes that Rudra will never buy her act.

two hoots to Rudra again, that he has told paro that how he is not liking the laila fiasco, and how paro does not care about his opinion. kudos to him, very good that he said that it should not matter to her what is pissing him off as she does not bother. unfortunately, Paro baisa remains unaffected, she is more than happy with Laila doing the bhajan kirtan, laila being all happy and her major saab giving her the upperhand. Paro baisa is having a gaala time, only member of the family who is at present tension free .

lastly, the button shot. aww, how cute was that ? and hahaha, Rudradev tried to stitch it on his own first . and while Paro was stitching it, and questioning about his meds, and then arguing with him about the needle pricking him, all he was thinking is that how beautiful and innocent my wife is, and how much more i can love her ? that look in his eyes was a killer. and its cruel, if after so much of submission in her love, he suffers from a betrayal, he has every right to know that these happiness are short lived and he is still not the luckiest one to get what he wants.

PS:- Ananya ji is so natural, and i think mohini will plan an abduction for paro, because she is unaware of paro's pact with god, and she has given 2 weeks to sumer, she is very well aware of the tandav Rudra does at Paro being in danger, and i do feel mohini is planning an abduction for paro, and laila will help her.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#26

Originally posted by: Oldestfan

Well, Laila is wrong on one count. paro has seen the Jallad side of Rudra.. She watched him take down a baraat and blow her husbands brains out. Please watch episodes in the month of january. The hostage captor syndrome is very well played out. It is only when the thakur put a gun to her head that she saw the light! Paro knows her husband can be cruel.. He has been more than cruel in words to her. But she also knows that he never hurt her or harmed her grievously physically. He could have easily killed her in his rage. But he did not. Laila does not know that. She does not know that part of his life.

I hate when these vamps start getting all smart ass with their dialogues. Please cvs, do not go the triangle way. That whole conspiracy by Laila to get the button off was so sick. It did lead to a very cute and hot Parud scene. Paro is getting all hot and bothered by Rudras nearness now, and Rudras eyes are so soft when he looks at her! Awww!


i think we the judgement from Laila's side is correct. Paro THINKS she has seen every form of Rudra, his rage, his dedication, his sufferings. But to be honest she hasn't. Ok, Paro, what did she see in the baaraat ? nothing, except the part that Rudra had shot varun. yes if thats called cruel or jalladgirir then every BSD and army men are at their duty. that was not Rudra, but an army officer in action. He did not kill varun in his arge or out of revenge or hatred, he killed varun in self defense or should i say to save paro who was senseless atm.

moreover, yes he has been rude with paro with his words, but the at a point Paro herself had challenged him and had seen Rudra faultering. She has seen him helpless, clueless, she has seen him begging to her for her one single signature on that paper. and that definitely is not the jallad Lailla is talking about.

Laila knows that Rudra and her physical relationship was a kind of thing that will never be understood by a civilian in a society, paro will have a tough time after she knows the truth. Will she accept Rudra after knowing it ? will her love and devotion be as much strong as it is now ? will her trust be as strong as it is now ? Rudra himself fears about it, he believes he is undeserving of paro and her love, but more than that he fears that what if she leaves him after he accepts her ? thats the only thing which is killing him now, and laila has already gave him a reality check.

I myself think, Paro is more about the idea of loving Rudra, she believes he is the man who has changed her life, given her every possible thing without any expectations, served her with his every drop of blood, an dthus she feels she has to serve him back.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#27

Originally posted by: DexterRocks

Finally, watched the episode.

My first paragraph, will belong to Rudra and his uniform. i felt delighted, happy, and more happier than the uniform itself to see him back in the major avatar. LOL you are hilarious, DR🤣...half the epi was devoted to Major saab in that uniform...especially for you it seems😆

coming back to the episode, the standout scene was definitely the Rudra-Laila conversation for me. I felt, laila quite well understands and knows that Rudra will not buy her pretense of this saati savitri devi. But still she will continue it and in the mean time she has mocked him by telling that a lion got reduced to a mere human being, just because of the love he felt for his wife. That could be damaging both for Rudra's ego and his state of belief in himself, but surprisingly it did prick him but did not show up in his actions post the conversation.
I think he did take laila's words by heart, and he is accepting it that he has changed a lot, and he definitely has weakened himself for Paro. Orelse should i believe that in Paro's presence his sanity goes on a vacation and he just forgets everything in her presence.
but i will go with the former option, he believes in his changed state, and he is accepting it, he accepts Paro as his wife, he has given her the right to take over his life, to have a right in his decisions, his past, present and future.

I think i liked the conversation more becaus,e i find laila best when she is with Rudra, giving him a reality check and him absorbing it with a lump in his throat. it was her who at the haldi ceremony had put him in dilemma about being in love with paro and once again, she has showed him the difference between him pre and post his marraige. what a convenient way it was, Laila definitely knows how tto go through Rudra and what affects him. Bingo! I said the same in one of my posts too...Laila is at her best in solo scenes with Rudra otherwise she ends up looking more contrived...but when she talks with Rudra like she knows him, it's believable where she's coming from...and I loved the point you made about Laila being the one to make Rudra realize the MAGNITUDE of his feelings for Paro each time...Last time she made him realize how he had given that HAQ to Paro...now also she's pointing out the changes in him...she may be doing it mockingly but it's forcing Rudra to think and deliberate in a way different from what everyone else's input is on this matter...Dilsher and Aman etc. are shippers so they keep pushing him to accept Paro...but Laila gives him a different perspective that in some ways I feel is also needed for him to battle his demons.

But i did not get that why did laila sing the bhajan ? doesn't she know that her doing all these will make Rudra more suspicious and make him believe that he is exactly right about her. but no, i think she is more in a mission to impress paro baisa than that off Rudra.

I liked how Laila had stopped KCM whi KCM started blabbing nonsense about Rudra's fetish for girls. i think i will give it to laila here, she has been more like a female version of the janwar Rudra. just how Rudra had said that no matter what happens between me and paro, nobody else dare talks crap about paro. similarly tonight laila has warned mohini that she better does not blab crap about "her" Rudra and she better stays aware that Rudra is not a fool to buy their nonsense. that again shows that Laila in her mind believes that Rudra will never buy her act. LOL interesting point about Laila being a female version of Rudra...I guess the possessive qualities are similar in them...but Laila seems more dangerously obsessive in her love than Rudra is...she feels ownership over Rudra but I wouldn't really label Rudra's love for Paro as one of ownership...I did like though that Laila gave more credit to Rudra's intelligence and reminded Mohini that he's not so stupid as not to notice the irregularities in Mohini's behavior with how easily she embraced Laila's arrival...I think that deffo made Rudra more suspicious.



two hoots to Rudra again, that he has told paro that how he is not liking the laila fiasco, and how paro does not care about his opinion. kudos to him, very good that he said that it should not matter to her what is pissing him off as she does not bother. unfortunately, Paro baisa remains unaffected, she is more than happy with Laila doing the bhajan kirtan, laila being all happy and her major saab giving her the upperhand. Paro baisa is having a gaala time, only member of the family who is at present tension free . Ignorance is bliss...this is Paro's motto😆😆...she's happy in her own titli world😆

lastly, the button shot. aww, how cute was that ? and hahaha, Rudradev tried to stitch it on his own first . and while Paro was stitching it, and questioning about his meds, and then arguing with him about the needle pricking him, all he was thinking is that how beautiful and innocent my wife is, and how much more i can love her ? that look in his eyes was a killer. and its cruel, if after so much of submission in her love, he suffers from a betrayal, he has every right to know that these happiness are short lived and he is still not the luckiest one to get what he wants. Aww I liked how you described tihs...especially the last line about Rudra probably lamenting his fate again and thinking he's not fortunate enough to be blessed with getting what he wants with relationships.

PS:- Ananya ji is so natural, and i think mohini will plan an abduction for paro, because she is unaware of paro's pact with god, and she has given 2 weeks to sumer, she is very well aware of the tandav Rudra does at Paro being in danger, and i do feel mohini is planning an abduction for paro, and laila will help her. Hmm but what will Mohini get out of abducting Paro? Rudra will obviously find her and bring her back...so how will this help Mohini and Laila in anyway?😕

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Posted: 11 years ago
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one more thing that i found hilarious was how after laila did the aarti, not a single member was interested in her or whatever she meant and suffered, But paro went on and on, how laila baisa could be the best thing that happened to her, and after paro finished her bhashan, everyone felt obliged and left, like nobody even expressed anything.
everyone was pissed off at both laila and paro i guess..🤣

and i just love how major saab is no nonsense man, he interrupts laila and gives her deadline of 2 days and goes back to his room, i was all🤣
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Anu- the episode was pretty bland ! this is not what I had bargained for by crying hoarse about getting laila back! I wanted the emotional conflicts to come back, involving Rudra's state of mind, his guilt conscious -maybe, the impact that would have on his increasing pull towards Pro- either positively or negatively- whatever- but more focussing on the EMOTIONS! But yahan toh bhajan and button is going on!
I liked the way Rudra looked at Paro- angry- when Lalila was doing that dhongi aarti drama- I liked that he was GRUFF with her when paro confronted him. He needs to give her a better dose than just that!

The button scene was sweet- and Paro baisa is extra chirpy- shouldnt it be mixed with a tinge of melancholy?? Wont that work more? And Major Saab becomes like an awkward boy sometimes with Paro's closeness- I don't know- but somehow it seems like a little off with his character to me sometimes! Its like that Dori scene- when he tied it- he was looking away- all awkward- while Rudra as a character- I would have expected him to do it brusquely, give a direct angry look and tie it one rough sort of tug! I know the time now is different and he has changed-and he also is looking at Paro with different eyes, shed his guardedness- but I always think that anything that makes him awkward will actually make him even more gruff!

Maybe its early days yet- and maybe all the emotions will come tumbling out suddenly!! All I want is someone to do the honors of bak-baking the whole gamut of 'kaams' that Rudra and Laila have been doing for past 8 years in front of Paro- anyone- and see how she reacts to THAT and what she does after that- and I really want the writers to make her behave 'NORMALLY' even if it is for 5 min- and then she can go to her Tyaag devi mode again! And I want Rudra to be bloody angry with her if she does not show 'NORMAL' emotions than- just 'kiss mitti ki bani hai tu' wont work then!

And yes- that dance in the precap is just maha random!! Iss haveli ki hawa main hi kuch ajeeb hai me thinks- people just randomly start behaving strangely!!

Edit- As you have mentioned the laila- rudra interation was a meaty thing today otherwise- yes she showed him the mirror in some ways but I think Rudra is more or less on the verge of accepting that image in the mirror for now! but yes hese words will haunt him for sure after Paro leaves- something tha he's going to reflect upon!
Edited by CyberOstrich - 11 years ago

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