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Posted: 11 years ago
#91

Originally posted by: Raabail

😊it does hurt and leave a bitter test when some people think taht they understand the characters more than the writers of the character and start to bash the characters to justify their ownselves. however the characters are only to entertain you but we take them vey serious at times and forget to be entertained and rather make ourself tensed and confused. I believe that we should take it with the flow of story and left ourself for entertainment only bkz at the end it's not our story or our created characters. So let the creatives do their job. I don't mind criticism but to bash in name of criticism is not enjoyable.😊


so if i mention some facts about Paro, that is equal to bashing her ?
isn't there hundred topics on how bipolar Rudra is, how egoistic he is, and etc ? AInt they bashing ? or should i believe that the forum is open to criticise only Rudra because he is the male lead and he has dark character traits ?

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Posted: 11 years ago
#92

Originally posted by: DexterRocks


i needed to qoute this one.. yes GUL KHAN and her form of alpha males are different from Saurabh tewary and his forms of alpha male . ST has given two genuine and hard hitting characters like RK and Rudra who are completely different from each other, whereas in case of Gul, i literally cannot distinguish between arnav, asad and maan. heck, i am a girl too, but still no feels.


@bold:- ahh i think nobody explains him so well like you do. he is a dark character which we don't even want to become white , instead the way the darkness and his nature is shown is very raw and intriguing. and yes, the actors also do have a vast contrbution here, its Ashish who breathes life in Rudra, and he deserves a hoot for being so believable. its not easy to sympathesize with a character like Rudra, unless the actor portrays the complexity and layers so smoothly.



Re: Gul Khan "alpha males"...lol same here...I honestly can't distinguish b/w them one bit...while ST for his part has given hard hitting characters with all three of his shows...I've watched DDEJ too and even Raghu was well sketched to begin with...but yes ofcourse RK is epic😆...you don't get darker and twisted than that on Indian TV😆...ST heroes are genuinely dark without PLAYING at it, you know what I mean? Like all these Gul Khan heroes seem like they just fell off the same assembly line just with different faces...while ST fleshes out his male leads with layers, the demons that drive them and if they're dark, they are UNAPOLOGETIC about it...I think that's my fav. thing about his male leads...they are straightforward and unapologetic about WHO THEY ARE...I really appreciate that quality...

When it comes to Rudra, he's actually possibly the MOST tender of ST heroes yet😆...or maybe it's cuz we have Ashish playing him with those amazingly soft eyes of his😆...I'm in awe of how those eyes can harden with anger and soften with tenderness with equal ease. He CONVINCES us of every emotion that Rudra feels...be it his anger, his bitterness, his hatred, his rawness, his earthiness, his protectiveness, his concern and ultimately his roundabout way of showing love and tenderness :-)
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Posted: 11 years ago
#93

Originally posted by: DexterRocks


BINGO... and i give it to him to be so honest and blunt with his words about her. its good that he says it in her face, no matter even if his words fall into deaf ears. and to certain extent i believe that he himself realises that Paro does not take his words seriously and is in her own beliefs, and he still chooses to throw it on her face. Isn't that patience ? i have read in several threads that how Paro has been so patient with him and his tantrums and so called atyachar with her, but then it applies on Rudra too. He is being patient with her since the day he met her, and especially since she fell for him, and he deserves a pat, because i can imagine a man like him leading with a gilr like Paro going against his wishes and demands, in real world people do go crazy. Tell it my biasness or anything, i do give credits to Rudra. Only because he is the more rude one, or he is the more flawed one does not take away his patience and his tolerance level from him, the only difference is that his ones never gets exposed and gets a wah wahi from the exterior world and Paro's one gets. that is the sole difference.



You do have a point on that, DR...the fact that Rudra is rude with her takes away from the fact that for the kind of person he is, he's shown a lot of patience with her...but then that's also cuz he subconsciously loves her and really can't bear being away from her😆...

But yeah the fact that he's talks rudely, meanly with her while Paro is the picture of angelic sweetness in response will always show Paro in a more favorable light than him...

You can be the best person in the world but if you don't dress up your words all prettily before you say them, people will always condemn you for that rather than see the good part of your intentions.

Edited by AreYaar - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Raabail

😊it does hurt and leave a bitter test when some people think taht they understand the characters more than the writers of the character and start to bash the characters to justify their ownselves. however the characters are only to entertain you but we take them vey serious at times and forget to be entertained and rather make ourself tensed and confused. I believe that we should take it with the flow of story and left ourself for entertainment only bkz at the end it's not our story or our created characters. So let the creatives do their job. I don't mind criticism but to bash in name of criticism is not enjoyable.😊

leave it yaar its just a pov about the character not about real people... all people have equal rights talk about characters...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: AreYaar



The reason I feel Rudra is different from the typical Gul Khan characters is cuz his torment, his demons are sketched out in a better fashion...firstly I like that he's not a BUSINESSMAN...thank god, I'm sick of those typical professions...he's actually got HONOR in his profession as a Major...and he's not a vanilla type of dark character like Gul Khan heroes are...one angry look here, one pinning against the wall scene there, one slow motion eye lock here, one dupatta flying there and love story complete...Rudra is almost surprisingly TENDER even as a dark character...he's not abusive in the typical fashion that all those Gul Khan manhandling heroes are. His awkwardness with emotions is very interestingly shown in many ways thanks to Ashish's superb acting too.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: DexterRocks


so if i mention some facts about Paro, that is equal to bashing her ?
isn't there hundred topics on how bipolar Rudra is, how egoistic he is, and etc ? AInt they bashing ? or should i believe that the forum is open to criticise only Rudra because he is the male lead and he has dark character traits ?

You are absolutely right dear.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: AreYaar



You do have a point on that, DR...the fact that Rudra is rude with her takes away from the fact that for the kind of person he is, he's shown a lot of patience with her...but then that's also cuz he subconsciously loves her and really can't bear being away from her😆...

But yeah the fact that he's talks rudely, meanly with her while Paro is the picture of angelic sweetness in response will always show Paro in a more favorable light than him...

You can be the best person in the world but if you don't dress up your words all prettily before you say them, people will always condemn you for that rather than see the good part of your intentions.


yes thus we see the difference between them and how the characters are percieved. In terms of behaviour Paro is the better person, which earsn her a lot of favour and sympathy.

coming back to Rudra, thats what exactly i meant, he is not the kind of person to tolerate Paro and her demands unless he has a weakness for her. That explains him a lot. i think in this thread itself somebosy qouted me that Rudra does not love paro but she loves him. I did not mention this point in my qoute, but mentioning here, only because he loves her, and he needs her or cannot bare a separation from her, he has been patient with her, and despite not liking or agreeing with her demands, somehow or the other he bows down to them or fulfills them even if that means that he will show her that he is doing for his own selfish reasons.

and i think out of all the characters maithili judged his this side a bit, she has figured it out that her devarjisa actually has a mask on his face, infact he does everything to keep Paro with him and in his protection without giving her a slight knowledge.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hey DR..great post..:)
I am enjoying reading others post on this thread too.. I must say bang on description on Rudra's character.. How he is different from other leading heroes.. Agree he is dark and grey still dun want to change him but want someone to heal him.. I have seen so many ML.. Never anyone had this much impact on me the way Rudra's character is.. Or you can say its Ashish who bring that extra factor into his character.. Hats off to him..👏


Another thing is that paro is completely white and beautiful character .. Still i cant sympathesize with her.. Her character seems forcefull and irritating to me sometimes.. But on the other hand Rudra's character is grey still all my sympathy goes to him.. Happens for the first time.. That i love a grey character more than the white..😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: AreYaar



Re: Gul Khan "alpha males"...lol same here...I honestly can't distinguish b/w them one bit...while ST for his part has given hard hitting characters with all three of his shows...I've watched DDEJ too and even Raghu was well sketched to begin with...but yes ofcourse RK is epic😆...you don't get darker and twisted than that on Indian TV😆...ST heroes are genuinely dark without PLAYING at it, you know what I mean? Like all these Gul Khan heroes seem like they just fell off the same assembly line just with different faces...while ST fleshes out his male leads with layers, the demons that drive them and if they're dark, they are UNAPOLOGETIC about it...I think that's my fav. thing about his male leads...they are straightforward and unapologetic about WHO THEY ARE...I really appreciate that quality...

same here. I appreciate ST for giving some genuine heroes and male centric shows here. RK was epic, initially it was hard to digest that he is actually being portrayed as so cruel and completely black, but then that was the vision. similarly, Rudra, as u said he is unapologetic, straightforward and moreover does not think himself as the best thing that could ever happen to Paro. I think i love this fact about him. While Gul khan males claim that they are the only ones who can love the girl beyond boundaries, i never saw Rudra or RK claiming such typical stuffss, that makes them more human and that also does not take away the fact that they do love their ladies with equal intensity and passion. Furthermore, with Rudra as we could see he had this laila fling, he calls his dad by his name, he does not hesitate to misbehave with kakiksa. Now if Rudra would be a Gul khan hero, he would hesitate or don't bother mess up with kakiksa only because she is elder to him, no matter how evil she is. Our Rudra just does what he thinks is the right thing to do. Rudra is different because eventhough he loves paro he will never promise her the moons and the stars but he will still try and seek them for her, if they are in his range.


When it comes to Rudra, he's actually possibly the MOST tender of ST heroes yet😆...or maybe it's cuz we have Ashish playing him with those amazingly soft eyes of his😆...I'm in awe of how those eyes can harden with anger and soften with tenderness with equal ease. He CONVINCES us of every emotion that Rudra feels...be it his anger, his bitterness, his hatred, his rawness, his earthiness, his protectiveness, his concern and ultimately his roundabout way of showing love and tenderness :-)

hehehe, Ashish and his eyes, does a lot of damage to my delicate mind though. i agree, eventhough he is shown as arrogant, i always find the tenderness and the delicateness, whenever he handles paro atleast, and yes i don't mean that in him bein tender physically..LOL
for instance, remember, how he had warned her not to interfere in maithili's life because this family will never care for Paro's genuine worries. Once maithili had been curt and asked Paro to stay out of her personal matter, that very moment Rudra comes and holds her hand, and yes the tenderness in his eyes to soother her, his words were harsh but his actions still meant that didn't i say you ? why don't you understand. one of my fav PaRud moments.

and what more can i throw here as an example, people who have watched yesterday's episode must have already known that how Rudra's eyes speak louder than his words. I am still in awee of tha look and his " paroo' chant in the hospital.

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: DexterRocks


and i think out of all the characters maithili judged his this side a bit, she has figured it out that her devarjisa actually has a mask on his face, infact he does everything to keep Paro with him and in his protection without giving her a slight knowledge.



I agree...Maithili seems to have him pegged better than Paro does actually😆...Ironic, no? Considering she's known him for a shorter time than Paro has...but then she has an advantage...Rudra is more successful at hiding his concern for Paro when she's awake...Maithili has seen his panic for Paro first-hand and processed it perceptively...while Paro views things more in the symbolic fashion...I guess also the fact that Maithili is more evolved in her womanhood while Paro is still an innocent girl not really having blossomed into womanhood yet.

But yeah basically Maithili has aptly termed it as a mask and excuses that Rudra uses to push Paro away otherwise he very well knows the truth of her innocence...there is a reason for why he pushes Paro away...but that reason even Maithili hasn't processed really...only Dilsher understands I guess.

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