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Posted: 11 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: -Sush-


HI Pri,
Thank you for your well explained post...Even if I tried...I don't think I will be able to convince you of anything...obviously you feel strongly about this and you have your reasons that you have well stated here...

On a more fundamental point...
I think the way a mans attraction works is perfectly aligned with Rudra's behavior...it does not go in sequence ...obviously you don't think that's how it is...so we can just agree to disagree...

I think witness and suspect are two different things...Paro is a witness...

I disagree that when she was at his house...he didn't have any attraction...I think the awareness started there...

A TV serial in the genre of romantic story doing away with attraction? That's not my idea of differentiation I am looking for...I am not sure the serial I am talking about was trying to do that...They just had a different sequence of events in mind...that was logical but...did not have what I call innate instincts that are kinda fundamental for attraction for me to want to continue to watch it...but that does not mean that it is not worth liking for anyone else...there were tons of other good things in it...

Yes, I am not thinking about the longevity of the serial...that's the makers headache...I get disappointed when they hit the reverse and reset button on things just so that they can milk it for more time...compromising characters and story and everything with it...

In any case, our opinions are our perspectives..NO right r wrong...so we don't have to agree...and that's cool...right?😊


We are definitely entitled to our own opinions and free to express them! Sorry if anything I said indicated otherwise.
IF you notice I didn't say do away with attraction...I said there should have been some thought process or scene to show the progression from total hatred to caring tenderness!
Rudra should not think paro is innocent only because he is attracted to her...is my point!
If you take away the background of the story and make it a love story alone then yes..an attractive beautiful girl in captivity would evoke the mans protective instincts and all is fine!
But here there IS a story different from a normal family setup!
Had they shown the slightest doubt in rudra's mind regarding Paros complicity in crime or had they shown him thinking about her interaction with his father then him helping her would be fine.
The physical attraction is normal..yes..I agree..but the romantic verses playing in the bg and him hesitating and noticing her pain in a special way was out of the blue!
Now when they have to pretend to be engaged they would be put in situations where they would be thrown together and then maybe they can show attraction fm his side and it may even be normal!
Both the leads have been fantastic which is why my post goes against the grain...we all want more romantic scenes in a hurry..it's ok if it does not fit in the story..for example when they go back to the haveli there will be dialogs where he accuses her and rants at her..and then thee will be scenes like the one on Friday as well..jlt!
And in any case in serials the makers have realised that the female lead can never be wrong..it doesn't make for high TRP! or high online viewing!
I bet they will totally gloss over the fact that in a way Rudra is right..the village is getting fooled and paro is lying albeit unknowingly! How is he supposed to know she is innocent..why is there talk of him asking forgiveness already! but that's fodder for another post!
I mentioned how would the serial run in the context of what the story would show and not to indicate that I care how long it runs!
I guess my POV is different and not many feel that way so peace!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: DiyaS

Nice post, Sush ... enjoyed reading all the replies here.

Quick take from me ... please bear with my jumbled thoughts 😛
As many have said, Rudra is inherently decent, he is also quite sentimental under his gruff exterior ... witness his upset when his men were killed, when the mother of his dead jawaan berated him ... he broke down at that one ... his care for his father, despite the bitterness and taunts.

Paro came back of her own will ... she was a suspect, now she is more a witness. His suspicion of her guilt has not gone entirely, but the certainty must be tempered ... as his dad keeps asking, is she bewakoof or very clever?

The initial hot rage and anger has faded with the 2-3 days they have spent together ... it is difficult to keep up that level of anger constantly when there is really nothing to feed it. And the close proximity in those very abnormal circumstances, they are having almost 'normal' exchanges ... I need clothes, here is food for you, I need needle and thread ... it's a very peculiar situation, with strange responses from both ... the underlying fear on her side, and mistrust on his side has not lessened ... but the day to day living has pushed it under the surface.
The care for her foot was a normal reaction, like organising her clothes, her food, but it changed into more than just prosaic care ... he remembered when he saw her foot with the dupatta wrapped like a make shift bandage that she was hurt ... yet she had never once voiced a complaint about it ... he left her waiting in the room, without a word of explanation ... came back to find her sleeping in an uncomfortable position, in pain, yet no demands or complaints about anything ... a feeling of guilt on his side? That it is his duty to take care of her, because she has no means to do it herself ... yet he did not, he failed in his duty here.

Also Paro did not need to make rotis for his dad ... she did ... Rudra may not have seen her run to get Dislher's pump, but he does know that she cooked for his dad despite being his captive ... just mentioning this as someone brought it up.

So he is slowly seeing a side of her that he has not seen in the women in his life so far ... a girl who makes no complaints, no demands, but still manages to hold her own in front of him, and shows a surprising quiet strength. Is it attraction or just a slow realisation that this girl is not quite what he thought she was?


your points are very good but I honestly feel there is too much left to audience interpretation!
he looked at her sleeping and just remembered she was hurt ..no other thoughts!
so the audience needs to infer all the thoughts ..why..they could have shown her challenging him earlier..refusing his help to walk..and then he decides to help!
just my two cents..it's a daily soap..they an certainly draw it out right,
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Posted: 11 years ago
#33
Love your analysis Sush! Exactly, it's a natural feeling that a man feels for a woman and in this case he very well knows deep down that she is innocent and he is the one who has turned her life upside down to a point where she has been abandoned by her family and village.

Also, this is a through and through passionate love story...no where in the synopsis or in the introductory promos has it been promoted as a love/ hate story so I think it's slowly progressing towards that part.

Priyanka

Ps: can't believe I missed your post...please pm me next time.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rupunzale

Love your analysis Sush! Exactly, it's a natural feeling that a man feels for a woman and in this case he very well knows deep down that she is innocent and he is the one who has turned her life upside down to a point where she has been abandoned by her family and village.

Also, this is a through and through passionate love story...no where in the synopsis or in the introductory promos has it been promoted as a love/ hate story so I think it's slowly progressing towards that part.

Priyanka

Ps: can't believe I missed your post...please pm me next time.


What indicates that he thinks she is innocent?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi Sush, loved the analysis as always. Read every one's reviews too.
My reasons why it wasn't OTT and these might be resonating most of ur thoughts (no plagiarism but ur analysis and everyone's replies might have some effect on my thoughts that could reflect here)

1. He was attracted the first time he saw her. He was shocked hearing about her marriage as if he thought " boy I missed her". I mean who wouldn't after such a nice rolling session with saxy kamaria 😉

2. The initial few days he did hate her to the core thinking she must be a suspect too. But after these many days of not finding even one proof against her, seeing her coming back and looking in his eyes and promising that she would prove her innocence, seeing her not complaining for anything and to top it of taking care of his dad who is the only person that means something to him. Aren't these reasons enough for him to soften towards her?

3. He sure must be having a big turmoil to stop his attraction towards her. And like someone mentioned he is no Rama and infact more a Krishna with his rasaleelas (read lailaleelas). With such controlled attraction in mind it is very natural to hesitate to even touch. Because even a small touch would give hundred shocks down the nerves.

4. Being a good human being he is, he wouldn't have left her on the floor there without unattending her wound. As for his emotions/attraction while attending her wounds could also be taken as him trying to make sure she doesn't wake up because he doesn't want her to think that he has softened towards her. So for all we know all that attraction might be us fan girls perspective when infact he is just doing it with instrumental perfection to make sure she doesn't wake up.

@Malkasub, I can sooo totally relate to you. As much as I enjoy the 25minutes serial, that much I enjoy spending about 6 hours in a day in this forum reading almost all posts. It became such an addiction that I dont hesitate to fight with my hubby if he tells me to stop the ipad 😛 while I am in this forum.

- Su

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Posted: 11 years ago
#36
very nice post. I like the tension they are trying to show (or hope they will show)...unbidden attraction or pull towards someone for whom you now have all the other layers of reason to feel anger, distance hatred whatever. Yes, she;s instrumental to him at this point for a larger purpose of gettign to the thakur. that trumps everything else, but if somethign begins to peek from teh edges, it is as it is...what can you do?!

its not easy or linear and in any case his fleeting attraction to her began on that first day he rescued her...before things changed brutally,

I am glad they are showing an undercurrent of this attraction and the effect of all this on his emotions adn his duty and agenda ...witness protection.. lets see the uncomfortable contradictions emerge as they are thrown so close together..

Just want more of her thought process as well and feelings and angst and her reflections on her conflicted experience of what she's going through.

No love on either side yet for a long while, but kucch to badal raha hai -- at least from his side and it will be kept tightly under wraps for a long time. However, shaiyri may have been a bit too much. Still...
Edited by Dazee - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: prettypri



your points are very good but I honestly feel there is too much left to audience interpretation!
he looked at her sleeping and just remembered she was hurt ..no other thoughts!
so the audience needs to infer all the thoughts ..why..they could have shown her challenging him earlier..refusing his help to walk..and then he decides to help!
just my two cents..it's a daily soap..they an certainly draw it out right,



Very much agree with you... The Friday episode where he decides to pick her up n help her with her foot is very much out of place I do feel too that's why I feel they should show Paro's inner turmoil as to what she is thinking for the audience to know and I do agree the cvs did show Paro resisting his help while her foot is hurt walking out of the haveli but that scene is not enough 😲
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Wonderful and much needed post!
I too felt that Rudra here is not as out of character at all!! He is neiother ignorant about her as an attractive woman nor is he going out of his way to get closer to her. Whatever has been happening is in the course of time. The shayari and all were needed in Friday's episode else how would we know Rudra's confused or rather baffled state of mind regarding things that he was doing to get Paro comfortable and treat her sprained ankle? He was affected for sure but still he went about it as clinically and gently as possible. This was NOT the LOVE but sure a step towards awareness of a different type from Rudra's side for Paro!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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totally agree!!! They have not shown Rudra in love with Paro. They are just showing a growing attraction which is slowly coming out to the surface coz of the circumstances of them living together and the family trying to pin them together. It was in fact quite beautifully thought out and written by creatives was my take!
adding this thought
The love part will take time. The attraction does not and that is the difference!
Edited by Swap-Arhi - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I think, he was gently trying to ease her ankle pain for two reason.
First, may be without admission or realisation his unconscious guilt feeling about paro's present status is leading him. As he is very caring inside in his own way. As an army officer who is meeting Laila kind of person, he has fair idea of guilty person, may be his 6th sense is also pushing him. Paro is a weak person who can not raise her voice against anything, but time to time she keeps telling, she is not guilty and her hatred towards BSD. And her reaction in the house towards other people is very different from guilty person.
Second, Rudra can never show his gentle caring side to any one😆 He was gentle bcoz obviously he doesn't want her to wake up and see him nursing her😆
It was simple gentle scene- he is becoming aware of her but no love- but backgroud killed the message...in my opinion they should have played some gentle music...

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