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Posted: 14 years ago
I have been a silent reader of the forum forever now, I just joined recently. And I joined cause this is one of the best forums I have come across, you gals rock it. I don't think there is another forum, where this kind of topic can be discussed openly with everyone contributing their thoughts and opinions. Hats off to the mods for making possible.




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Posted: 14 years ago
Ok!! Seems like this thread has been extremely 'grey-cell' stimulating! Has even gotten some silent members to speak their mind...
Makes me feel really good about my 'extra curricular' activities!! 😆
So, Summary Times now...
1. The Actor-Fan Dynamics: Each incomplete without the other, and hence necessary for the other! An actor is not in the chosen profession for the sheer love of the craft alone...adulation is a heady concoction! Likewise, adulation of a fan for an actor is not based on craft or on-screen persona alone...it is an amalgamation of multiple factors, of which, IMO, integrity of character, loosely translated as accountability is of paramount importance!!!!
Just as fans are accountable to their actors by placing their belief in them, actors are equally accountable to fans by believing in their fans' intellect!! As Yumna very aptly said "A two way street!"
No actor is bound by law 😆 to disclose any details of his/her personal life to anybody outside his/her personal space, fans included!!!
But every actor, just like every one of us here is accountable for what he/she knowingly says/does!! Nobody, and I reiterate nobody is above that!!!
Will try and draw a simple analogy from my profession...even if my work deserves it, my boss during my appraisal is not bound to give me an EE (Exceeding Expectations)...he/she can very well grade me with an AE (According to Expectations)! But if I am lead on to believe that I am worthy of an EE, my increment letter had better reflect it!! Pray why???
'Cos he/she is b------ ACCOUNTABLE to me!!!
It works the same way in any eqauation, actor-fan-actor included!!!
2. The Role of the Media: Vaish articulated it nicely...a 'double edged sword' really!
Again the media-actor relationship...a symbiotic one! Both thrive on each other, for their own gains and losses 😆 (sometimes)!
Agreed, that the print media can always be taken with a pinch of salt...the benefit of the doubt of the 'unknown factor' always persists...
But what about the electronic media, wherein there is no scope for ambiguity whatsoever??!!
My only gripe...leave alone an insuination as serious as dishonesty...even if an individual is in a state of nothingness regarding his/her personal equations (eg relationship status), is it asking for too much really for the person concerned to maintain a "No Comments" stance!!!
Is it so absolutely necessary to play to the galleries for the sake of the gratification of a "I, Me, Myself" jingoism???!!!
Again, boils down, IMO, to the simple core issue of ACCOUNTABILTY!!!
3. The Connectivity Factor: A large number of posts in this thread seem to be debating on the connectivity that we as fans have with celebrities, in this case, actors!
It is definitely oh-so -easy to state that our 'relationship' and thereby connectivity with an actor begins and ends with our TV Sets!!
My simple question...why do their completely off-screen personas featuring interviews with their dogs and cats run into countless pages??!!!
Why do we pine for the actor (and not the character he/she is portraying) to come up with a single sound byte on his/her fanpage??!!
Why should it matter to us that our favorite actor should wish us for our exams...why should we celebrate his/her birthday with as much (or probably even more gusto) as the actor himself/herself??!!
The journey, IMO, definitely starts from our TV Sets but encompasses much more...
The 'connectivity' is just not to the character, it is definitely also to the actor...hence the birthday celebrations of the actor and not the character!!!
And, hence the ACCOUNTABILTY!!!
4. Ideology in the not-so-ideal world: Aditi summed this up beautifully..."Good character is the foundation of a good human being"
And honesty and integrity of character are definitely signs of not just good, but great character!!
Nobody on the face of this earth is bound to tell the truth, but there is absolutely no need to knowingly misrepresent facts either!
Morals and values need not only grace our Moral Science classes; a simple "My personal space is mine...would really appreciate if you could respect it...In case there is anything that I would want to make public, I shall definitely make it known when the time is appropriate" seems so much better!!
No more questions asked...no more 'answers' necessary!!
ACCOUNTABILTY, lead by example!!!
A potential role model created!!!!
5. Brand Building and Image Management: All credits, courtesy Saazy!
When an actor is random and behaves arbitrarily with his/her image..everyday a new story, everytime a non chalant explanation, and whats more it almost seems like you are loving the craziness that ensues from it all..and that too from your very own fans...Fans do not want to date you...Fans do not want to sleep with you..if thats what you think it is then there is no difference between you and the creep that eve teases them on the way to college!!
Not caring what the media writes about you...or portraying a non care attitude is ALL ABOUT CREATING THAT VERY image of yourself...
Actors especially TV actors that play certain characters for a long time on television have a responsibility towards the brand they portray...your behaviour both professionally and personally (unfortunately) impacts it...becos you set it up that way...your life is out there on public online spaces ..you appear there and post messages...those messages are interpreted, for gods sake analysed and revisited by scores of fans...be responsible towards that...and yes, you shall be ACCOUNTED for it...
In conclusion, would like to say, have had an overwhelming experience, really to such an overwhelming response...
Lots of ideas exchanged, insights created!!
Accountabilty and its myriad connotations indeed!!
PS: Since the multiple topics of discussion on this thread have now been summarized, request you all to post something new, only if it is a definite value-add...
Edited by dr.dsr - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago

When I responded to this topic, it was purely to put in my two bit on the discussion at hand..the issue of accountability and its connotations...which in my opinion is in addition to his craft, an actor in today;s world cannot escape his responsibility towards his (the) image created by him or fostered by him...

It is pure and simple...
like someone mentioned...I think Vaishu...(I am sorry re...tried to read everyone's interpretations)... some actors work towards establishing an image and often hide from the media and some actors (salman khan was it?? as an example) don;t care what the media says and do what they please...AND this is what I have to add to that...
Not caring what the media writes about you...or portraying a non care attitude is ALL ABOUT CREATING THAT VERY image of yourself...in this time and age of where media is all over the place, you have both the pain and luxury to establish your self brand the way you want...actors such as Salman Khan have done exactly that...they have created an image of non care...and fans have lapped it up...it has worked for him shall we say...becos in so many ways he has actually stayed true to it...everytime he puts down a reporter or a cameraman fans love it...
and thats exactly what it comes down to...how many actors get that??!! about brand management and image establishment...very very very few...when an actor is random and behaves arbitrarily with his image..everyday a new story, everytime a non chalant explanation, and whats more it almost seems like you are loving the craziness that ensues from it all..and that too from your very own fans...Fans do not want to date you...Fans do not want to sleep with you..if thats what you think it is then there is no difference between you and the creep that eve teases them on the way to college..
I really do not want to get into specifics of what the lead actor of this show said or did...honestly, I don;t really care for it, and frankly there is no end to that kind of conjecture...
however, there is very little doubt in my head that actors especially TV actors that play certain characters for a long time on television have a responsibility towards the brand they portray...your behaviour both professionally and personally (unfortunately) impacts it...becos you set it up that way...your life is out there on public online spaces ..you appear there and post messages...those messages are interpreted, for gods sake analysed and revisited by scores of fans...be responsible towards that...and yes, you shall be accounted for it...
Edited by saaaz - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago

oye...docd..just saw your summary...

well I seem to be late in posting my response...kya karen? should I edit out...
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: saaaz

oye...docd..just saw your summary...

well I seem to be late in posting my response...kya karen? should I edit out...

No way, Sazzy! Please dont edit anything!
Your response is brilliant!!
Image Building and Brand Mx: definitely an integral part of accountability!
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Posted: 14 years ago
Hey guys just one q's what crime he did he lied thats it may be he is not committed to that relationship
so may be he didn't bother to announce in public why are we after him bashing him , praying for his ill health why ? he didn't mess our lives, he didn't harm us then why so much of bashing
as vaishu said media is not leaving even their own kids but we believe or not it's upto you
they are accountable to only their families that's it he always gave us a good portrayal of Shaan he never failed then just stick to that just my pov nothing against anyone
thanks
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: Tora

Hey guys just one q's what crime he did he lied thats it may be he is not committed to that relationship
so may be he didn't bother to announce in public why are we after him bashing him , praying for his ill health why ? he didn't mess our lives, he didn't harm us then why so much of bashing
as vaishu said media is not leaving even their own kids but we believe or not it's upto you
they are accountable to only their families that's it he always gave us a good portrayal of Shaan he never failed then just stick to that just my pov nothing against anyone
thanks

hey Tora...
I honestly don;t think this post has anything to do with the lead actor's any one particular action ... at least how I understand it is it is a series of events that have happened for past so many months by actors, media, fans, actors friends, co stars etc...which has culminated into this discussion...which in my opinion has been extremely enriching and shall I add eyeopening...
A few of us have got into personal aspects of the lead actor, however I think we have been warned not to...like you have said, your OP is that they are accountable only to families and not anyone else...while some others think it is not that black and white...
hence the discussion...
Edited by saaaz - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago

A sincere request to all...

Since the multiple discussions on this thread have already been summarized, request you all to post something new, only if it is a definite value-add...
There is no point in repeating the same stuff differently!
Thanks in advance for your co-operation!!
Edited by dr.dsr - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
I agree DocD... Guys, the summary is on Page 13.. DocD..you may want to add that on the title and front page post...the Page number of the well done summary😃
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Posted: 14 years ago
DocD!

There is a saying in sanskrit

"Satyam bhruyat priyam bhruyat
Na bhruyaat satyamapriyam

Priyamcha naanrutham bhruyaat
esha dharma sanatanaha"

Means Talk truth and be straight forward as long as you don't hurt others and changes their life.

But don't say truth bluntly which effects others.

Talk a lie if it doesn't effect others.
This is dharma.

As long as anybody's lies do not effect drastically , means changes your life you can say lies.

🤗

So we will leave it to their wisdom what to talk and what not to talk.

Just want to say this.

Your posts are brain storming .Really. My hubby and kids are badly effected since yesterday😆
Edited by rbofan1 - 14 years ago

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