A pair of shoes & the destruction of Khanak!!! - Page 2

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Posted: 14 years ago
#11
yaa..i also think that this is luv...when she saw that he is tired, she did that...and Shaan also replies that quite well wid luv, and tells that he might do the same.....i think there is nothinh wrong wid puttoff the shoe...

and Aditee..i completely agree wid u wid what is going in the mind of Cvs regarding YM and i m quite sure they have also better plans 4 her regarding her character KHanak.....so dont be disappointed....
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I am disappointed with this scene. Because it is not in keeping with the image of Khanak in RBO.

About the debate on whether removing shoes is demeaning, well, we should ask all the men we know why they won't do it if it is not demeaning. We all know how in our culture/society, some social groups have been considered lower in hierarchy precisely because it is considered their job to remove shoes for people believed to be higher to them (caste/class).

That's why a naukar will remove a master's shoes, but a master will not remove naukar's shoes.

That's why when people beg for forgiveness, in our society, they fall at someone's feet. Because the foot is the lowest part in our body and one cannot go any lower. It's symbolically saying, 'I submit to you. I cannot express my sorry more.'

Now , coming to the scene itself, I don't think for a moment that the CVs wanted to show Khanak as a slave or servant of Shantanu. So why show this scene? The clue is in what she said, 'husband comes home tired. wife shld give him comfort'... let us not even get into whose mothers do it and whose don't. But wud Khanak talk like this? thats the most important point. The Khanak we know is not the type to say such lines.

You will all remember how during the ILU sequence Khanak said husbands make rules and wives follow them. We were all aghast and the CVs actually came and apologised saying it had come out wrongly in editing or direction.

Let us hope some such thing has happened. Simply cannot imagine Yash ji and Swapna ji seeing those lines and saying 'yes'.
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Posted: 14 years ago
#13
Gaayu,
I feel I am foolish, may be because I am married and believe I am modern and strong, and believe that :"shoe removal" has ALL THE WRONG CONNOTATIONS, which ever way you look at it
Shaan and Khanak were NOT playing S---- POKER!
It was not part of ANY grand love making scene
So I for one am cluless
Maybe if I was unmarried and a teen, I would be romanticizing all this and seeing it in a very lovey dovey way.
May be I would have gone to bed tonite fantasizing about how I would do it if I happened to love my husband like Khanak does
THERE IS NOTHING TO BE IDENTIFIED WITH OR RELATE TO IN THE KHANAK OF TODAY!
What ever spin Yashji and Swapna (totally disapppointed!) try to put to it
I am going to write to Star 1 and the PH to let them know what a terrible precedent they have set today.
So much for the "youth" feel!
Even Doordarshan did not have such a pathetic opinion about women 30 years ago!
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Posted: 14 years ago
#14
i dont find anything wrong in this episode...............................this just way of showing love to each other................i mean no ego clashes.................and shaan also replied her not to do such stuff................i find it very sweet❤️
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: shanakrocks

sorry not to hurt you aditee....why this scene is taken as a ego clash between male and female....just see the love and caring attitude that women has for her husband....why everything shd be taken as why shd girls do that why not men.....

there are really ppl who still don have any problem in doing these things and necessarily it may not give as bad image as you are describing.....

is helping a tired husband shd be connected with women rights or ego.....khanak is a strong girl and by what means trying to helping out shaan means coming down from her strong girl image....

I want to know how many "loving" wives would do this for their unemployed bum of a hubby who happens to return from his FIRST day of real work, which happens to be SINGING
Shanakrocks, just because KT looks handsome, everything he does in his on -screen avatar is necessarily not palatable or awesome
This one is totally putrid and bitter!
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Posted: 14 years ago
#16
I want to know how many middle class or lower middle class girls in India today who happen to have a bum for a hubby like Shaan would gladly do this.............
Khanak as a character was slowly dying for a month. She passed away today
Wonder how long it will be before YM realizes how much her character has been degraded and diminished
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Posted: 14 years ago
#17

Originally posted by: tvrasika

I am disappointed with this scene. Because it is not in keeping with the image of Khanak in RBO.

About the debate on whether removing shoes is demeaning, well, we should ask all the men we know why they won't do it if it is not demeaning. We all know how in our culture/society, some social groups have been considered lower in hierarchy precisely because it is considered their job to remove shoes for people believed to be higher to them (caste/class).

That's why a naukar will remove a master's shoes, but a master will not remove naukar's shoes.

That's why when people beg for forgiveness, in our society, they fall at someone's feet. Because the foot is the lowest part in our body and one cannot go any lower. It's symbolically saying, 'I submit to you. I cannot express my sorry more.'

Now , coming to the scene itself, I don't think for a moment that the CVs wanted to show Khanak as a slave or servant of Shantanu. So why show this scene? The clue is in what she said, 'husband comes home tired. wife shld give him comfort'... let us not even get into whose mothers do it and whose don't. But wud Khanak talk like this? thats the most important point. The Khanak we know is not the type to say such lines.

You will all remember how during the ILU sequence Khanak said husbands make rules and wives follow them. We were all aghast and the CVs actually came and apologised saying it had come out wrongly in editing or direction.

Let us hope some such thing has happened. Simply cannot imagine Yash ji and Swapna ji seeing those lines and saying 'yes'.

The Khanak from APRIL will SO NOT DO THIS!
This is cheap and unimpressive way of making Shaan a "hawt" lover boy cum husband🤢
I dont think Shaan himself would like it
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Posted: 14 years ago
#18

Originally posted by: aditee

I want to know how many "loving" wives would do this for their unemployed bum of a hubby who happens to return from his FIRST day of real work, which happens to be SINGING

Shanakrocks, just because KT looks handsome, everything he does in his on -screen avatar is necessarily not palatable or awesome
This one is totally putrid and bitter!



where have i mentioned that just kt is handsome the scene is awesome...

and just a question your love for your husband is it connected with his employment?? i seriously doubt it so asking and to judge a scene i think its not a point you are married or unmarried..not all unmarried girls fantasize these things or rather do it when they go when they go for sleep..i think its your misconception on some part of girls....
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@ gaayu one thing i would like to point out is that time (ghanti bajao/shaan suspicious of ehr
bringing tea etc.,)they were not physically close(no SR ) and also not
declared their love for each other etc.,
now all those things happened..and they are completely ego free.
..and she wants to be of comfort to her husband..What is wrong in that Why should she not do it?
In waht way it degrades a woman?
this is all in perception of each individual..
i found nothing wrong at all
it only showed how much she cared for her hubby and supportive she was in understanding him
In fact my repect for khanaks character increased by many folds seeing her do actions ego free...and shaan also was equally responsive..
It is all between a husband and wife they can do anything for each other

ther is a lot of difference in woman to woman in her thoughts /actions... ...One cannot apply general rules to entire women folk..
that is all....
Edited by sshriyaa84 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
#20

If you look at it, frm a neutral non feminist way, she is a girl frm a village, fr her it is probably okay to do this, because that is hw she was bought up, take care of ur husband and stuff.... it's her way of showing love, like an urban girls way wld be to kiss, hug, or mke coffee for him...

I myself am a feminist, and didnt particulary like the scene, but am nt going all Jhansi ki Rani ovr it coz, frm a village gals POV, nthing wrng with it...
but i do agree with othrs, that the cvs hve a talented actress like YM and they are COMPLETLY wasting her, she eithr is there to kiss and do romantic scene with KT, or to confront Sam in a hilarious and weird confrontation, bt othr than that she is not doing anything! with epi's nt featuring her and all, it's all TO depressing, I want to see Khanak doing something, finding a purpose other than Dhokla and Khandwa!!!!!!!

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