july9 review: rocking episode - Page 3

Originally posted by: akhl

luv_khwaish,
You have written that Vishnu tried to kill Ravan but failed. Could you please post that story and also write the source of it?

The devtaas were unable to defeat Ravan. Ravan made many devtaas and navgrah prisoners. All devtaas went to Vishnuji and requested him to solve their problem. Vishnuji threw his chakra at Ravan but sudarshan could not kill Ravan (mainly bec. he was a Shivbhakt and he got many boons from Shivji and Brahmaji...he got the boon that no devta could kill him...only human or vanar cud) . Then there was aakashvani that you can't defeat Ravan because Shivji's kripa is on him. So Vishnuji vanished from there. Then Brahmaji and Shivji requested him to take Ram avtaar and kill Ravan.

i read it in Shivpuran.

Originally posted by: akhl

😊 i'm sorry even after this explanation i cud not understand the reason. that's why i said earlier i don't like this episode. i don't wanna think abt it. who am i to judge anybody's actions? Ramji was a God and he must be trying to give some message to humanity by doing this.

B.T.W Brahmaji's boon to Vali was tht he will draw half of his enemy's strength , he was not given the boon tht nobody cud kill him except this or tht(unlike Ravan who cud be killed by a human or vanar only). Vali was even stronger than Ravan!! He defeated Ravan and it was shown in this very Ramayan.

Regarding Arjun in Mahabharat, i never said nobody could "defeat" them. i said nobody could "kill" them. they were "Defeated" in the Virat war, they were not "Killed". it was impossible to kill them the RIGHT way. dronacharya was given the wrong news of his son's death and dhrishtadunya killed him. karan was not on his rath, he was taking his rath's wheel out when Arjun killed him (he had no arms) and we all know the story of bheeshma pitamah and duryodhan.

charu

Edited by luv_khwaish - 17 years ago

n what was that BIG lesson?

Originally posted by: rupalip

wow akhl gr888 explanation 👏 👏
i agree with u completely.. The dialogues shown here almost same as in Valmiki Ramayan. Ramji clearly said to Bali that "U with ur boon rule over others which is not fare. U must fight wiuthout considering your boon and then judge whos stronger. Sugreev is nowhere less than you."
Luv-khwaish if u talk of a perfect human being then
Ramji with Sitajis haran, crossing Lanka , sitajis exile showed to human being that no one can fight with KAL and Vidhan. all whats written will happen for sure , only we can control ourselves and can act with courage to solve our problem. It is not possible for a man to fight against destiny, but karm is the main thing. Ramji acted with courage and got Sitaji back .
He worked with principles though yes he wld have supported SItaji instead of banishing her. Even i dont like the reason behind this that all did for praja but its there in Valmiki Ramayan that Sitaji knew fromstart reg her life in forest , some astrologer predicted all this before her marriage. So it was all written in her destiny.
AGain I want to say all Ramayan happened not for them but for us to learn whats good and bad. their separation teaches a BIG lesson.

Sitaji's exile was destined, her haran was destined, she knew all this before, even Dashrath knew abt Ram's destiny . All of them knew what'll happen but they did not act otherwise bec. they had to show that human life is full of difficulties . it's full of sangharsh, sacrifices. Sitaji asked Ramji herself to disown her to please his praja, this is understandable. what is not comprehendable by me is killing of vali, sitaji's agni pareeksha and when Ramji disowned Laxman.

charu😊

Originally posted by: rupalip

wow akhl gr

888 explanation 👏 👏
i agree with u completely.. The dialogues shown here almost same as in Valmiki Ramayan. Ramji clearly said to Bali that "U with ur boon rule over others which is not fare. U must fight wiuthout considering your boon and then judge whos stronger. Sugreev is nowhere less than you."
Luv-khwaish if u talk of a perfect human being then
Ramji with Sitajis haran, crossing Lanka , sitajis exile showed to human being that no one can fight with KAL and Vidhan. all whats written will happen for sure , only we can control ourselves and can act with courage to solve our problem. It is not possible for a man to fight against destiny, but karm is the main thing. Ramji acted with courage and got Sitaji back .
He worked with principles though yes he wld have supported SItaji instead of banishing her. Even i dont like the reason behind this that all did for praja but its there in Valmiki Ramayan that Sitaji knew fromstart reg her life in forest , some astrologer predicted all this before her marriage. So it was all written in her destiny.
AGain I want to say all Ramayan happened not for them but for us to learn whats good and bad. their separation teaches a BIG lesson.

Sitaji's exile was destined, her haran was destined, she knew all this before, even Dashrath knew abt Ram's destiny . All of them knew what'll happen but they did not act otherwise bec. they had to show that human life is full of difficulties . it's full of sangharsh, sacrifices. Sitaji asked Ramji herself to disown her to please his praja, this is understandable. what is not comprehendable by me is killing of vali, sitaji's agni pareeksha and when Ramji disowned Laxman.

i don't mean to offend anybody but whichever epics i've read , they've shown women in a bad light. they r made to be the reason for all bad deeds on this earth.

charu😊

Originally posted by: rupalip

wow akhl gr

888 explanation 👏 👏
i agree with u completely.. The dialogues shown here almost same as in Valmiki Ramayan. Ramji clearly said to Bali that "U with ur boon rule over others which is not fare. U must fight wiuthout considering your boon and then judge whos stronger. Sugreev is nowhere less than you."
Luv-khwaish if u talk of a perfect human being then
Ramji with Sitajis haran, crossing Lanka , sitajis exile showed to human being that no one can fight with KAL and Vidhan. all whats written will happen for sure , only we can control ourselves and can act with courage to solve our problem. It is not possible for a man to fight against destiny, but karm is the main thing. Ramji acted with courage and got Sitaji back .
He worked with principles though yes he wld have supported SItaji instead of banishing her. Even i dont like the reason behind this that all did for praja but its there in Valmiki Ramayan that Sitaji knew fromstart reg her life in forest , some astrologer predicted all this before her marriage. So it was all written in her destiny.
AGain I want to say all Ramayan happened not for them but for us to learn whats good and bad. their separation teaches a BIG lesson.

Originally posted by: luv_khwaish

what is not comprehendable by me is killing of vali, sitaji's agni pareeksha and when Ramji disowned Laxman.

Originally posted by: luv_khwaish

what is not comprehendable by me is killing of vali, sitaji's agni pareeksha and when Ramji disowned Laxman.

Originally posted by: rupalip

i already arote somewhere even I dont like the reason behind sitajis exile but it shows
If a husband or wife are separated whatever cld be the reason , its not necessary to marry again or end life, there are other duties like Sitaji took care of children all alone without husband or family and then Ramji did the same after Sitaji. They both lived for each other.
Really what a gr8 SItaji She wld have lived with Janak but she didnt.

Originally posted by: coolpurvi

u didnt replied