DOTW: Misfortunes of bharat

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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oh god, seems like no one is intersted in the misfortunes of Bharat right now 😭
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Ok Tan-ji let me start.
I agree with you.
I really like Bharat's character after Shri Ram's from the brothers. In a way I think his sacrifice was greater than Lakshman's. Lakshman's decision to accompony Ram was duty based on emotion. Bharat's giving up the kingdom and living like a hermit in Nandigram was duty based on love and buddhi - granted even though Ram inspired him.

Bharat served Ram while being away from him - which emotionally must have been difficult - Its so sad that his murti is never with Ram, SIta and Lakshman's - even tho his sacrifice and seva was tremendous - its as unrecognised and uncelebrated as Urmila's.

Bharat's psychemust have really been injured as well. His sense of isolation must have been so painful - His dear father dead, his mum - a kul-kalank and betrayer, his dear bhaiya and bhabhi exiled. Perhaps besides, Mandvi - he had noone to turn to - and even then he didnt allow Mandvi to live with him at Nandigram. At least Shri Ram had Lakshman and Sita with him for the majority of the 14 years.

The flaw with Bharat was his hatred towards his mum after the incident and his inability to forgive her. But he finally did on Ram's goading. Ram was Ram after all - he could rise above anything. But Bharat is a nice combination of human frailties in a person torn between duties, and the triumph of love and sacrifice.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: aalochak

Ok Tan-ji let me start.
I agree with you.
I really like Bharat's character after Shri Ram's from the brothers. In a way I think his sacrifice was greater than Lakshman's. Lakshman's decision to accompony Ram was duty based on emotion. Bharat's giving up the kingdom and living like a hermit in Nandigram was duty based on love and buddhi - granted even though Ram inspired him.

Bharat served Ram while being away from him - which emotionally must have been difficult - Its so sad that his murti is never with Ram, SIta and Lakshman's - even tho his sacrifice and seva was tremendous - its as unrecognised and uncelebrated as Urmila's.

Bharat's psychemust have really been injured as well. His sense of isolation must have been so painful - His dear father dead, his mum - a kul-kalank and betrayer, his dear bhaiya and bhabhi exiled. Perhaps besides, Mandvi - he had noone to turn to - and even then he didnt allow Mandvi to live with him at Nandigram. At least Shri Ram had Lakshman and Sita with him for the majority of the 14 years.

The flaw with Bharat was his hatred towards his mum after the incident and his inability to forgive her. But he finally did on Ram's goading. Ram was Ram after all - he could rise above anything. But Bharat is a nice combination of human frailties in a person torn between duties, and the triumph of love and sacrifice.

so well said

actually like urmilla bharat is the person who has been ignored by the powet, he was created with many potential but dispalyed very few

i think he is the personification of goodwill and human heart, which though has flaws is essentially golden

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: its me tan

i think he is the personification of goodwill and human heart, which though has flaws is essentially golden

Your sentence sums it up. I like slightly flawed or "more human" characters like Bharat and Karna because we can identify with. Despite their shortcomings they struggle, strive and reach greatness (or try to in Karna's case). Shri Ram is so perfect - we need to aim to be like him but its difficult - and one can lose hope and give up in the process. Bharat gives me hope - he may not have been perfect but he's always trying - just like me😉

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Posted: 17 years ago
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i would juss like to say tht the amount of infamy bharat suffered during his absence n partially during his presence is nothing compared to the laurels he gained later from ram incarnate sriman narayan himself proclaiming him as the very embodiment of dharma..his glory and honour increased ten-fold because of his virtuous deeds..thus bharath still shone like a bright star inspite of the accusations brought upon him thanks to kaikeyi.. ironically even guha doubted bharat's loyalty..theres a small but beautiful short story abt this incident-

when bharath came to meet ram at chitrakoot he had to cross nishadraj's(guha) land..guha seeing bharat with a large army became vigilent and asked his men to hide behind the bushes until he found out bharats intentions..guha went forward to welcome him..n to find out wether he had good or bad intentions he kept three kinds of food in front of him which presented different meanings-

1. meat(rajasic) - has bad intentions ( might attack ram)

2. fish(thamasic)- neutral

3. fruits and tubers(sathvik) -saintly..good intentions

bharat ofcourse chose the fruits..and guha was over-whelmed with joy..neways even lakshmana was ready to fight with bharath but a voice in the air told him not to do so as his doubt was baseless..hope u liked the info😊

Edited by camella - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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hi tan, i thought dasrath told if ever bharat sat at the throne he will lose the rights to do his dad's last rights, but bharat didnt become the king. he kept ram's padhuka(shoe) in the throne and ruled the kingdom.

but i agree fate played a major role in bharat's destiny.for 14 long yrs people suspected him behind the conspiracy, even lakshman.i guess after ram's incoronation he must have regained public's support.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Almost everybody misunderstood Bharat. Except Sri Ram n Guru Vashistha everbody thought that he was involved in the conspiracy. His own mother could not understand his pious nature. She thought the he will support her in those unjust deeds. Bharat always wanted Ram to be the King of Ayodhya. Virtuous Bharat proved himself innocent by installing Ram's 'CharanPaduka' in the throne. For 14 years he did all the duties of a good King but he himself led the life of a hermit in Nandigram. Thus he did all the duties of a good king but did not enjoy any right or luxaries that usually a king enjoys.Satrughan (incarnation of Sudarshan Chakra), the brave was engaged in the duty of protecting Ayodhya from enimies. He also led a very simple life. Ram n his three bros r really great. I love n respect all of them. I don't believe in comparision. I think it is not right to compare the greatness of Laxman n Bharat. Actually we have no right to compare their greatness n we should not do so.

Destiny played game with the brothers. It tried to break their sweet relation. It tried to create enimity between them. But the four brothers remained firm in their duties n righteous path and in the end destiny failed and their mutual love won.

Bharat was reincarnated as Arjuna in Dwapar Yug n Kekayi as Devaki Mata. Arjun (reincarnation of Bharat) n Krishna (reincarnation of Ram) were best friends.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: coolpurvi

.Satrughan (incarnation of Sudarshan Chakra), .

hey i did not know taht satrughna was incarantion of chakra, then whose incarnations were bharat and laxman?❓

and arjun was born from god INDRA DEV : so was bharat related to anyway to indradev?

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: camella

i would juss like to say tht the amount of infamy bharat suffered during his absence n partially during his presence is nothing compared to the laurels he gained later from ram incarnate sriman narayan himself proclaiming him as the very embodiment of dharma..his glory and honour increased ten-fold because of his virtuous deeds..thus bharath still shone like a bright star inspite of the accusations brought upon him thanks to kaikeyi.. ironically even guha doubted bharat's loyalty..theres a small but beautiful short story abt this incident-

when bharath came to meet ram at chitrakoot he had to cross nishadraj's(guha) land..guha seeing bharat with a large army became vigilent and asked his men to hide behind the bushes until he found out bharats intentions..guha went forward to welcome him..n to find out wether he had good or bad intentions he kept three kinds of food in front of him which presented different meanings-

1. meat(rajasic) - has bad intentions ( might attack ram)

2. fish(thamasic)- neutral

3. fruits and tubers(sathvik) -saintly..good intentions

bharat ofcourse chose the fruits..and guha was over-whelmed with joy..neways even lakshmana was ready to fight with bharath but a voice in the air told him not to do so as his doubt was baseless..hope u liked the info😊

yes and laxman was ready with arms to fight and kill bharat , but ram reporached him for suhc a thought

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