25 May-written-Ram and Hanuman against each other

akhl thumbnail
18th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail Fascinator 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 16 years ago
#1

Jai Sri Ram

Hanuman is flabbergasted to hear his mother's order.
Hanuman - I cannot do this mother.
Anjani - You promised me.
Hanuman - If I do this, then my lord's promise will be broken. Do you want me to oppose my lord?
Anjani - Whatever. You have to honour my promise.
Hanuman (to Kashi naresh) - So this is the method you found to escape from Sri Ram's wrath. Don't you feel ashamed creating a rift between mother and son? If you are brave, then fight with Sri Ram in battle ground.
Anjani - Enough. You have no right to insult him.
Kashi naresh pleads - Please save me, Pavanputra. I will always be grateful to you.
Hanuman - King, you know that Sun and Moon can waver from their paths but Sri Ram will never waver from his vow. Even if I want, I cannot do anything.
Kashi naresh - If you want, you can do anything. Please save me.
Hanuman - You cannot be saved. Why are you putting me in dharm-sankat? You should happily accept the punishment from Lord Sri Ram and make your afterlife good by being killed in his hands.
Anjani - Bajrang, he needs a solution and not preaching.
Hanuman - Forgive me, mother. I cannot obey your orders by going against Lord Sri Ram. He has to die.
Anjani - Is this the value of your promise? Is this what I have taught you from your childhood that you break your promise?
Hanuman - Sri Ram resides in every pore of my body. If you want, I will fight with the whole world, I will stop the Earth, I will dry the sea, I will change day to night and night today. But mother, I cannot go against my lord. Please forgive me.

Hanuman goes away. But he is restless. He is not sure whether keeping his mother's promise is more important to him or his lord's promise.

Hanuman goes to Ram.
Ram and Hanuman talk through their minds and without using words. (Does anybody in this forum know telepathy?😊)
Ram - Hanuman, you have no right to disobey your mother, who has given birth to you. By dissapointing your mother, you will displease both her and me.
Hanuman - You are my lord. I cannot go against you.
Ram - Hanuman, in this world, everybody is bound by dharma. Everybody comes across many people. He has duty towards all of them - towards siblings, towards friends, towards master, towards king, towards motherland. But the duty towards one's mother comes before all these because if she had not brought you to this world, then all these other duties would not have arisen. Therefore Hanuman, obey your mother.
Hanuman - Lord, if you are saying this, then I am forced to go against you.
Ram - I will do my duty and you do yours. But nobody other than you and me should know about this order of mine.
Hanuman - As you wish.


Hanuman goes to Anjani.
Hanuman - Mother, I know that I was wrong that I did not listen to you. But I was bound by devotion towards Lord Sri Ram. I know that I have not been a good son. But I am your son. Please forgive me.
Anjani is quiet.
Hanuman threatens (in a jocular way) - If you do not forgive me, then I will take Kashi naresh to Lord Sri Ram.
Anjani - I will forgive you only if you honour my promise and save Kashi naresh.

Anjani calls Kashi naresh. He comes out.
Hanuman - Did you see? Because of your mistake, such a big chaos has arisen.
Kashi naresh - I did not do that knowingly.
Hanuman - I am also calling that as mistake. But you are a king. People learn from how the king behaves. You should respect rishis.
Kashi naresh - I will do so from next time onward. But please save me.
Hanuman - It is easier said than done. If all the powers of the world are against Lord Sri Ram, then also it is not possible to face his Vaishnav power. But my mother has promised to save your life and I am also bound by that promise. Even if I have to give up my life, I will save your life. But you must do what I say.
Kashi naresh - I will do as you say.
Hanuman - Mother, I will take him with me.
Anjani - But make sure that he is not harmed.
Hanuman - Mother, if I have your blessings, then nothing will happen to him.
Anjani - Be victorious.


A spy meets Ram.
Spy - Maharaj, Kashi naresh is under the protection of your dear Hanuman ji. Bound by his mother's order, he has even decided to go against you.
Ram thinks - I had myself ordered Hanuman to obey his mother. But I am a king. If I do not honour my words, then subjects will not trust me. I must behave like an ideal king.
Ram (to spy) - This is the tradition of Raghukul that if anybody comes in the way of our vow, then we either take away his life or give up our life while honouring our words. Even if Hanuman tries to save Kashi naresh, then I will forget that Hanuman is my dearmost devotee. Where are they?
Spy - Maharaj, I saw them going south towards the bank of Saryu river.
Hanuman - But our army is there.
Spy - Yes, Maharaj. On the orders of some of our commanders, our army has surrounded Hanuman ji and Kashi naresh.


Hanuman and Kashi naresh are surrounded by Ram's army.
Senapati - Bajrangbali, hand Kashi naresh over to us.
Hanuman - No senapati. He is under my protection. Let Lord Sri Ram come. Then we will reach a conclusion.
Senapati - I cannot wait for him.
Hanuman - Do not be a fool. Otherwise you will be responsible for the death of all these soldiers.
Senapati - Soldiers, catch Kashi naresh.
Kashi naresh is trembling with fear.
Senapati - If Hanuman ji stops you, then tie him.
Hanuman alone fights with all of them and defeats them. Finally he defeats senapati also.
Kashi naresh is very glad to see this.
Kashi naresh - You are great, Pavanputra. You are alone equal to entire army.

In Ayodhya
Sumant - Rajmata, Kashi naresh got the protection from mother Anjana. And she gave this responsibility to his son Mahabali Hanuman.
Kaushalya - Does it mean that Hanuman will be against his lord in the battle-ground?
Sumant - Rajmata, the situation is very complicated. Today, lord and devotee are against each other.
Kaushalya - Hanuman has always served Ram and Ram also treats Hanuman as his dearmost devotee. And Hanuman himself will fight with Ram? Sumant ji, give this news to Vashishth ji.
Sumant - As you wish.


Sumant gives this news to guru Vashishth. Vishwamitra is also there.
Vashishth - What? War between Ram and Hanuman? Their names were always taken as example of lord and devotee.
Vishwamitra - I had never even imagined this. We must stop them somehow. (Hey, your own anger is responsible for this.😡)
Sumant - Now they cannot be stopped. Ram has got this news. Moreover Hanuman is injured the soldiers of Ayodhya, who tried to stop him. Some have even been killed.
Vishwamitra - It is difficult to believe.
Sumant - But this is true. If Sri Ram sees the condition of his soldiers, then he will not forgive Hanuman.

Hanuman is sad.
He thinks - So much of destruction of Ayodhya's army and that too by me? Why did I do this? To honour the promise to my mother? But Kashi naresh tricked my mother. Is it right to do all this for him?
Kashi naresh - You are really mighty. You defeated thousands of soldiers. They were falling like small trees in a tempest. You are great.
Hanuman (angrily) - I know what I am. Instead of praising me, you should worry about your life. Come with me.

They move away from there.
Hanuman thinks - I have to be against Sri Ram in order to obey his and mother's orders.
Hanuman - Kashi naresh, Sri Ram has come to know of this. He will be reaching here any moment. Do not worry. Do as I say.
Kashi naresh - What should I do? Please tell me quick.
Hanuman - Go inside the water of this Saryu river up to waist and continuously chant Ram-naam.
Kashi naresh - But Sri Ram wants to kill me. From him I am running everywhere.
Hanuman - If a person fears anybody, then he goes to somebody greater than him. Only Ram-naam is greater than Sri Ram. If you chant his name from your heart, then all your troubles will be over.
(Isn't this similar to what Chandra had also suggested?)
Kashi naresh - Is this true?
Hanuman - Yes. Sri Ram's name is more effective than even Sanjivani. Do as I say and see the miracle. Why are you looking like this? Go inside the water.

Kashi naresh stands in the water and chants "Jai Jai Ram".

Ram reaches his army.
Ram - Did Hanuman do this?
Spy - Yes Maharaj.
Ram - I cannot believe.
Spy - But this is the information we got from our spies.
Ram - They must be wrong. Hanuman cannot do this.
Spy - Forgive me, Maharaj. One person can make a mistake. But all of our spies who saw what happened here have given the same information.
Ram sees senapati, who is very seriously injured.
Ram - Who is responsible for this condition of yours?
Senapati - Hanuman ji
Ram - Then Hanuman will not escape from me. The one who has killed Ayodhya's army cannot be forgiven. I will punish both Kashi naresh and Hanuman. Where are they?
Senapati - They went that side.


Ram goes in that direction and sees Hanuman.
Ram screams - Hanuman
Hanuman is ready with his gada.

Precap - Same as the precap, which we have been seeing in the last few episodes: Ram and Hanuman are facing each other.


Edited by akhl - 16 years ago


DO NOT COPY THIS POST AS THIS IS EXCLUSIVE TO INDIA FORUMS


Created

Last reply

Replies

16

Views

10k

Users

8

Likes

1

Frequent Posters

Vr15h thumbnail
16th Anniversary Thumbnail IPL 2024 Participants Thumbnail + 6
Posted: 16 years ago
#2
I too found it strange that Rama and Hanuman communicated by telepathy. Also, why would Rama ask Hanuman to keep this instruction of his a secret? How difficult would it be for the Vishy-meister to divine that Rama was the one who ordered Hanuman to obey his mother and oppose him, making his task impossible? And what's the point in keeping it secret from other people?

I didn't like Hanuman accuse Kashi-raj of not respecting rishis, since, as Khalrika pointed out, he didn't see the Vishy-meister, not that he deliberately snubbed him.

Also, raj-dharm, which in this stretch of the serial seems next only to Vidhi ka Vidhan, having forced Rama to be cruel to Sita, is now forcing him to turn on Hanuman. But in this case, Rama's subjects weren't the ones demanding that Kashi-naresh be killed, and the promise that Rama gave Vishwamitra was the one he could have given in any capacity, like the promise he gave Sugriv on Vali. So how is his fulfillment of his vow an issue of Raj-dharm? It seems more like a fulfillment of his personal dharm.

One thing I didn't get - why does Sumantra take the news of this to Kaushalya, and not to Lakshman, who is governing Ayodhya at the moment, and in whose territory, Hanuman is making a monkey out of his troops? And then he goes to Vashistha and the evil Vishy meister. Incidentally, sucks that Lavanasura didn't take out the Vishy meister when he was busy persecuting rishis - he should have simply used Shiva's trishul against the Vishy-meister and Durvasa 😈 And I agree - Vishy meister had no business expressing concern at a Rama vs Hanuman fight when he had caused it.

I didn't like how when Hanuman is praised by Kashi-naresh, he retorted angrily. Also, did Hanuman kill the troops, or just injure them? If they were killed, the responsibility for that was solely the Vishy meister's,not Hanuman and the former deserved to be sent to Yamalok. Also, why is Rama unable to believe that Hanuman defeated his troops, since he is fully aware of what Hanuman had achieved in Lanka, and since he himself ordered Hanuman to obey his mother's wishes?

P.S. On the question of what I had suggested, I had suggested a sadistic solution from Rama's POV - that Rama destroy the power of Raam-naam by indulging in a whole series of sinful acts, so that his name can no longer protect Kashi-raj. I'd have liked killing the Vishy meister to be on this list. Only problem - Rama only had 3 days in which to do this, and who knows how much time has so far elapsed.


Same108 thumbnail
16th Anniversary Thumbnail Explorer Thumbnail
Posted: 16 years ago
#3
Hmm. I really don't like Ramji's outfit. In the length of one episode it looks different.
I think staff was in hurry or something.
No, really:
before


and after:


They forgot to finish it in the first place. I couldn't look at unfinished one yesterday. What a blooper!
desichica thumbnail
17th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail Commentator Level 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 16 years ago
#4
Awww...gr8 update Akhl....today's epi was good...i love how Hanuman ji shows his naughtiness to his mom in convincing her to forgive him!!!!
@ Same108: I actually like that outfit on him....it gives him that hot warrior look...i remember the first time he had that on was when he was in Vishnu roop during Sita swayamvar...and how gaga i go over it....and i still drool over it by watching Rupali's upload on youtube!!!!!! Thanks Rupali for that..it def is a treat!!!
desichica thumbnail
17th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail Commentator Level 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 16 years ago
#5
I agree with Chandra...i thought it was def wierd how Ramji and Hanumanji communicated via telepathy.....guess those things work with divine power ;)
desichica thumbnail
17th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail Commentator Level 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 16 years ago
#6
lol....one more thing i noticed...so is Vishy meister the new name for vishwamitra now...i agree completely with everything mentioned by chandra...and with wut avi had said bout vishy meister being thse cause of this problem so farr.....i was getting updates from my sis bout the show...and i too was saying how this anger was totally un-justified...i mean c'mon seriously...go get a life!!!!!! Glad i wasn't the only one thinking that way..otherwise i wud have felt bad....but then again this is Kalyug genre vs. Treta yug generation!!!
RamKiSeeta thumbnail
17th Anniversary Thumbnail Achiever Thumbnail + 6
Posted: 16 years ago
#7
Woooooow, what an episode. Heehee, this looks like more of "Vidhi ka Vidhaan" than Uttar Kand once again. Oh well, we'll just have to enjoy this serial as entertainment and not something to learn life lessons out of.
I really don't like how they're twisting Vishvamitra's character.🤢 But then, when they already twisted Lord Shiva's and Hanuman's, is it any surprise if they twist Vishvamitra's character? And Anjana seems like a short-tempered lady in this serial.
Thanks for the update of 'Kahaani Humaaray Ramayan Ki' Avinash.👍🏼
RamKiSeeta thumbnail
17th Anniversary Thumbnail Achiever Thumbnail + 6
Posted: 16 years ago
#8

Originally posted by: desichica

lol....one more thing i noticed...so is Vishy meister the new name for vishwamitra now...i agree completely with everything mentioned by chandra...and with wut avi had said bout vishy meister being thse cause of this problem so farr.....i was getting updates from my sis bout the show...and i too was saying how this anger was totally un-justified...i mean c'mon seriously...go get a life!!!!!! Glad i wasn't the only one thinking that way..otherwise i wud have felt bad....but then again this is Kalyug genre vs. Treta yug generation!!!

But this isn't how it happened in the story Khalrika posted Suniti. In the story Khalrika posted, Vishvamitra was at least justified in his anger, but in this serial, it is such a silly trivial reason.😕🤔
desichica thumbnail
17th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail Commentator Level 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 16 years ago
#9

Originally posted by: _LalithaJanaki_

But this isn't how it happened in the story Khalrika posted Suniti. In the story Khalrika posted, Vishvamitra was at least justified in his anger, but in this serial, it is such a silly trivial reason.😕🤔

ahhhh....lalitha...i think i messed up in my meaning..but i was referring more to the "kahani humarey ramayan ki" as you said😆😆....i know sagar's have been making ramayan turn into something more that is for TRP's vs. Facts for the audience (& i honestly think it is in large due to NDTV pressure).....i was actually being sarcastic in my statement against Vishwamitra!!!!! JSK, which is by Sagars (i believe) is probably the number one show on colors...b/c it shows majority of Lord Krishna and HIS Leela in truth!!!! Whereas in Ramayan they are def twisting the truth and making it more like a saas-bahu serial😕
But i apologize for the confusion!!!!!😳
chatterbox thumbnail
Posted: 16 years ago
#10
hehhe the one thing i enjoyed was kalyug vs tretayug
ram and hanuman used MMS service
instead of SMS
mental message service
hahahahaaa
i was actually laughin at that and told rupali last nite ah MMS at its best
wish we had that in recent times
we cud do all we want
ah vidhi ka vidhaan
but still the character twisting i didnt like at all
rondhu hanuman i dont like
i like jovial naughty hanuman
but gurmeet as ram again excellent
thanks for update avi

Related Topics

Top

Stay Connected with IndiaForums!

Be the first to know about the latest news, updates, and exclusive content.

Add to Home Screen!

Install this web app on your iPhone for the best experience. It's easy, just tap and then "Add to Home Screen".