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Posted: 12 years ago
@piu : exactly anger coupled with shock...

neil just nailed it


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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: arti07




ROFL how did i miss these 🤣

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: arti07


well lakshmana story and urmila story isnt present in completely in any of the versions or folklore it is acutally scatterd into pieces just like pieces of puzzle if someone read the various version and folklore one would find a greatlovestory hidden beneath the epic...

for example...
lakshmana refusal to marry and remain celibate is present in gondi ramayana and rajasthani folklore...u may find the stories in the library or bookstores

here is gond ramayani

here in one chapii u may find lord rama contemplating on lakshmana bachelorhood he want him to get married as he dont want him to dedicate his entire life on his service


hereit is said laskhman observed celibacy throughout his life...its not given in the main article but if u read a book on it u will find a conversation between lord rama and lakshmana something that is shown in the show where urmila heard them talking...it happened something like that lord rama asked lakshmana to get married as soon he returned to ayodhya but lakshmana refused saying he is not meant for love and marriage for him lord rama is everything...

in central india folk tale which could be found in the library the book name is "RAMAYANA IN THE TRIBES OF INDIA..the book is in hindi..." there are certain passages containing beautiful conversation between lakshmana and urmila where he refused to marry and urmila didnt said a siingle word but went to goddess sita and asked her to grant her wishes...sita knew the misfortune of urmila and asked her to forget lakshmana and urmila said she will be ready to bear everything in the name of thy love...clearly urmila was in love as its shown here and in NDTV ramayan and then lord rama understood urmila dilemma he went to laskhmana and explained him the meaning of love and marriage and how it is the way to attain the god (something we saw wen lord rama was explaining love to his brother and then the grand wedding took place)

there is paper work by guhyre which tells that laskhmana was somewht a tragic hero he was heroic among htem he knew his deeds may lead to bad consequences still he acted according to the wish of lord rama here also the writer has depicted the reluctance of lakshmana to marry urmila which was seen him throughout the epi...he was also guilty of leaving sitamaa and cutting supernakha nose ...

the post relationship between urmila and laskhmana is hinted in ramayana in the tribes of india
it is depicted urmila and lakshmana were perfect husband and wife and they lead a very happy life some of the tales are vocal usually popular in parts of ayodhya lucknow and chitrakoot...

there is passage in uttar ramayana where sitamaa teases laskhmana to recognize his young bride among the poster lakshmana was so shy tht he quickly change off the topic he did recognized his bride if u read uttar ramayana u will get to know its in google book too wait i will give the link

so one can deduce tht they had a strong relationship afterwards

sadly there is no clue about their separation in any versions and we have to seek the help of reowned writers the protrayal of urmila's pain and suffering is given in urmila a epi poem written by maithalisharan gupt there is a novel called URMILA in telgu i guess concentrating on urmila then the urmila sleep is very famous poem depicting their love and dedication towards each other http://www.manushi-india.org/pdfs_issues/PDF%20Files%20153/Urmila%20pg.pdf this is the link i know u must have read it

the satavik character of urmila is the one I read in Ramakatha Rasa Vahini of Sri Sathya Sai Baba. Kindly clarify your source if you read(such variations are possible, . she never left her room or changed clothes. For, in the RKR Vahini, Baba says she never slept for the 14 years in sympathy with her husband on self imposed exile. Indeed Prince Lakshman did not sleep (hence called 'Urangavili' in Tamil or the unslept one) for 14 years and qualified to kill the valiant Indrajith who could be killed only by one who had not slept for 12 years or so and celibate.

the celibacy that lakshmana observed is given in krittivassi ramayana

there is one popular folktale where naradji some where it is written nidra devi asked her for boon and she asked to nidra devi to make laskhmana forget her it given in the google article too plz google it

then some more element can be found here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1y-nXMK268


these videos are based on the story given in central india.folklore...the same book ramayana in tribes of india

so in short we can deduce lakshmana was hesitant to marry but once he married he was a devoted husband and urmila and lakshmana went through hardship and remain loyal pious to each other and in the end they were united...

do u know that urmila got the fruit of her sacrifice lord rama blessed her and she was born as vimala devi...here is the link http://www.shreekhetra.com/mahaprasad.html😳

thats all i know i f u have any other knowledge plz do share with us coz its lakshmana AT and we are actually interested in this side character

As for Sati and Parvathi, their stories are written in Shiva Purana, Devi Bhagwatham, Skanda Purana, etc so we know those stories in detail and why they broke the strictures of society. By not giving us a basis for Lakshman's rudeness and Urmila's forwardness in this show, we are left to think it's fiction (which it very well may be since SP is famous for that) and I'd rather see no love story between them than something that is total fiction.

actually it isnt total fiction plz refer above 😳
Could some of you ask which source they're following for this story please? yes plz i wanna know more and more about them i m so crazy for them😆





i missed this too 😲
tell me who is doing PhD 😆..thanks for the links yaar...
and some of the stories you mentioned , i too had stumbled upon them when i was googling abt LU...but this much details is really impressive



Edited by nneeiill - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
a beautiful poem on Urmila and lakshman..few lines of lakshman from it...
by Krishnarasa Seshadri

full poem link : The Other Raghava


lakshman :

Yet, you must, Love,
You must bear it all- and
You will!
My shoulders are bruised,
This bow-string unkindly cuts into them;
Oh, this is no Ayodhya;
This way side rill that impeded my path
Is not my Sarayu;
Mother Nature is no Mother Sumitra!
And not one object here can ever replace
You to me, my Urmila!
These forest floors are not
Your soft lap to rest my head;
These winds bring me none
Of your warmth.
Yet for Ram,
I would weather the Underworld!
For me, Love, weather
Time's slow-footed lameness!
Honour me, Urmila,
With your patience!
Could not I have
Borne you across this perilous wild?
Do not mine arms
Possess that strength?
But I grant that your heart,
Your meekest, tenderest heart,
Were stronger than mine arms-even me!
[For I remember,
And will always do,
It won me, my pride and all]
I know it can bear
Undauntedly, a bereavement of a lifetime,
And fourteen summers?
Tell me, Love, am I not worth the wait??


Edited by nneeiill - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: arti07


hi five bluey yeah waala step kaise hai kindly judge us 😆

btw where is ur partner in res...



right here 😳
main tho kabse dance partner banne ke liye ready hu😎
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: nneeiill

a beautiful poem on Urmila and lakshman..few lines of lakshman from it...
by Krishnarasa Seshadri

full poem link : http://poetfreak.com/text/19492/1.the-other-raghava-lakshman-and-urmila.html


lakshman :

Yet, you must, Love,
You must bear it all- and
You will!
My shoulders are bruised,
This bow-string unkindly cuts into them;
Oh, this is no Ayodhya;
This way side rill that impeded my path
Is not my Sarayu;
Mother Nature is no Mother Sumitra!
And not one object here can ever replace
You to me, my Urmila!
These forest floors are not
Your soft lap to rest my head;
These winds bring me none
Of your warmth.
Yet for Ram,
I would weather the Underworld!
For me, Love, weather
Time's slow-footed lameness!
Honour me, Urmila,
With your patience!
Could not I have
Borne you across this perilous wild?
Do not mine arms
Possess that strength?
But I grant that your heart,
Your meekest, tenderest heart,
Were stronger than mine arms-even me!
[For I remember,
And will always do,
It won me, my pride and all]
I know it can bear
Undauntedly, a bereavement of a lifetime,
And fourteen summers?
Tell me, Love, am I not worth the wait??




neilu its freakingly awesome thanks for posting it ⭐️...its really fantastic i m short of adjectives...wht a poet hats off dude

@ red wow cant be beautiful ...am I not worth the wait??? maar daala lakhanji☺️...

oh yes we understand the worth and we understand the pain of separation... right neilu we too waited for one year naa😳
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Posted: 12 years ago
Honour me, Urmila,
With your patience!
Could not I have
Borne you across this perilous wild?
Do not mine arms
Possess that strength?
But I grant that your heart,
Your meekest, tenderest heart,
Were stronger than mine arms-even me!
[For I remember,
And will always do,
It won me, my pride and all]

guyz did u read these lines...for i remember...it won my pride and all (pride 😲 what that means) where is our Miss english minizz and our Poetry lover piu...someone explain wht poet meant ...
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: nneeiill



yaar i dont make vm thesedays...its either piu or geesh...geesh is gayab today..dint even see her in FB


Hey Arti, plz stop crying 😒 ...I'll try to make a VM on Lakshman



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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: arti07

Honour me, Urmila,
With your patience!
Could not I have
Borne you across this perilous wild?
Do not mine arms
Possess that strength?
But I grant that your heart,
Your meekest, tenderest heart,
Were stronger than mine arms-even me!
[For I remember,
And will always do,
It won me, my pride and all]


guyz did u read these lines...for i remember...it won my pride and all (pride 😲 what that means) where is our Miss english minizz and our Poetry lover piu...someone explain wht poet meant ...



@red : exactly those lines caught my attention too...especially the word "Pride"
..the whole poetry is just amazing..

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Geeshu


Hey Arti, plz stop crying 😒 ...I'll try to make a VM on Lakshman




tu kaha chod ke chali gayi thi hume 😭
Edited by nneeiill - 12 years ago

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