Discuss Ramanand Sagar’s RAMAYAN - Page 19

Originally posted by: KrishnaPriyaa

I don't think it is written about much, but if we see Ramayana, the political views of that time are there.
It toes exactly at that peak of ethical principles and the right political decision.

Dasaratha Rajya, Bharata Rajya and Rama Rajya showed that. Bharata Rajya itself is Rama Rajya only, but you know what I mean.

Even Ravan was an excellent administrator; so much so that even Rama respected him for that and sent Lakshman to learn from him when Ravan was at his deathbed!

Also, I think Ramayan was the first document that focused on the "Indian politics" of its time. With Ayodhya capturing North India, Kishkindha, the central part and Lanka the Southern parts of India. I actually love to analyze the geo-political scenarios and find out under what exact conditions did those characters took the decisions that they did!

At Ramayan time, society was in an evolving stage. Instead of playing politics, they waded through morals and ethics which were already set there to follow. No one tried to experiment with ideals, with new ideas, they just followed the set rules!

But at the time of Mahabharath, it was a fully developed society with set definitions of rules and a few amendments added to wade through those difficult times if necessary!

Royals were all-powerful, Brahmins were a bit arrogant lot with cursing this one or that one whenever they wanted to .... a boon here to please a muse, a curse there to cure the arrogance of a king, but everywhere a bit of confusion. People started to prefer to stray from morality, yielded to gain power, suppressed the deprived and lower strata of society.

To uplift the lives of mankind, the Lord Himself descended to earth, to play, to teach to preach and consequently, if humans denied following his divine messages, he realized that the time has come to make some hard decisions, realised that a few arrogant kings and their kingdoms have to be eliminated, a few generations vanished in that human Yagna, only the morally right persons with divine blessings survived to move forward, to make good future for the mankind.

Originally posted by: KrishnaPriyaa

Mahabharata was much more politics than anything else Mahi :p

Now that depends on how are you defining politics 😆

I'm talking of politics where equals fight to achieve power within in a community. But with the preset of establishment of dharma, everything was so moulded in both Ramayana and Mahabharata and prefixed, anything hardly looks political to me nowadays 😆

Hey guys check out the other threads in the forum too!

You can also create more threads to discuss other aspects of the show in the forum, there is no need to restrict ourselves in one thread only! 😃

Does anyone have the short promo video of Ramayan which usually is played these days on DD National & mostly DD Bharati....It has a few glimpses from ramayan along with the title song...Very pleasing to see

The same was also played on the Kapil Sharma Show...I want it please..

Originally posted by: Viswasruti

At Ramayan time, society was in an evolving stage. Instead of playing politics, they waded through morals and ethics which were already set there to follow. No one tried to experiment with ideals, with new ideas, they just followed the set rules!

But at the time of Mahabharath, it was a fully developed society with set definitions of rules and a few amendments added to wade through those difficult times if necessary!

Royals were all-powerful, Brahmins were a bit arrogant lot with cursing this one or that one whenever they wanted to .... a boon here to please a muse, a curse there to cure the arrogance of a king, but everywhere a bit of confusion. People started to prefer to stray from morality, yielded to gain power, suppressed the deprived and lower strata of society.

To uplift the lives of mankind, the Lord Himself descended to earth, to play, to teach to preach and consequently, if humans denied following his divine messages, he realized that the time has come to make some hard decisions, realised that a few arrogant kings and their kingdoms have to be eliminated, a few generations vanished in that human Yagna, only the morally right persons with divine blessings survived to move forward, to make good future for the mankind.

Super analysis ...I actually find Mahabharata more interesting

The sakha saki relationship btw draupadi and Lord Krishna

The guru shishya and friendship btw Krishna and Arjuna

The interplay btw the brothers...

Originally posted by: proteeti

Even Ravan was an excellent administrator; so much so that even Rama respected him for that and sent Lakshman to learn from him when Ravan was at his deathbed!

Also, I think Ramayan was the first document that focused on the "Indian politics" of its time. With Ayodhya capturing North India, Kishkindha, the central part and Lanka the Southern parts of India. I actually love to analyze the geo-political scenarios and find out under what exact conditions did those characters took the decisions that they did!

@Bold: I don't exactly follow that. Ravana might have been a very good administrator, but the prominent scriptures do not follow Lakshmana going to Ravana's deathbed to learn politics.

Both were already well versed in politics due to how beautifully Maharaja Dasaratha handled Ayodhya's administration.

Ramayana, again, is more ideal with regards to politics. Ideal politics is under Rama Rajya. Of course, the others might not have had ideal politics, but even these were not as much political based as they were mind based or revenge based.

Originally posted by: Viswasruti

At Ramayan time, society was in an evolving stage. Instead of playing politics, they waded through morals and ethics which were already set there to follow. No one tried to experiment with ideals, with new ideas, they just followed the set rules!

But at the time of Mahabharath, it was a fully developed society with set definitions of rules and a few amendments added to wade through those difficult times if necessary!

Royals were all-powerful, Brahmins were a bit arrogant lot with cursing this one or that one whenever they wanted to .... a boon here to please a muse, a curse there to cure the arrogance of a king, but everywhere a bit of confusion. People started to prefer to stray from morality, yielded to gain power, suppressed the deprived and lower strata of society.

To uplift the lives of mankind, the Lord Himself descended to earth, to play, to teach to preach and consequently, if humans denied following his divine messages, he realized that the time has come to make some hard decisions, realised that a few arrogant kings and their kingdoms have to be eliminated, a few generations vanished in that human Yagna, only the morally right persons with divine blessings survived to move forward, to make good future for the mankind.

Well said.

The Lord had to come down, as you rightly said, for Dharmastaphna.

He alone was all-powerful, He, His brother, their respective wives. He did what He had to do.

When a society is full developed, people try to assert their power. When a society is ideal, that will not happen.

I cannot fully agree with the phrase that society was in an evolving stage then. Society was fully evolved then too.

Originally posted by: Mannmohanaa

Now that depends on how are you defining politics 😆

I'm talking of politics where equals fight to achieve power within in a community. But with the preset of establishment of dharma, everything was so moulded in both Ramayana and Mahabharata and prefixed, anything hardly looks political to me nowadays 😆

Mahabharata still has that tinge of politics that Ramayana does not.

While Mahabharata is, of course, foremost a Hari Leela and for the establishment of Dharma, what happened for that was political despite it being for Dharma.

See for me both Ramayan and Mahabharat defined the culture and principles of the times they were written. In Ramayan Lord lived the life of a human undergoing trials and tribulations like a human does and used only human power to evolve as a great king.

In Mahabharata Lord taught a man how to live. Infact he not only lived but also taught. Arjun's journey can be taken by any human if they have the surrender of Arjun.