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Posted: 4 years ago

As per promo I saw suddenly jambavathi itni radha ko besathi karna looks wierd and no sync at all..On top of it why hell it's shown Krishna looks each time only at radha and not anybody.


Now they r going to spoil wonderful track udhva... final rk days of how radha krishna goes to golok.


I am still looking at are they following any book it's looks not to me..


About Radha yes mentioned in bhrama vivarta purana , Padma purana and yes jayadev.


But none shown in this show have this..I am still confused what krishna trying to show on prem here

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Posted: 4 years ago

Mor Pankh is Krishna, something he liked and wore. Maybe only thing that was personal choice.


Original Vishnu iconography doesnt have mor pankh.

Peacock is associated with Karthikeya. Vishnu has Garuda.


Also Krishna started actually claiming he is Vishnu. Its there in Harivansh when he takes Garuda namesake to Rukmini Swayamvar.


And IMO Bhishma is simply being sarcastic or mocking Krishna as Vishnu in Rajasuya. He wasnt praising Krishna there.


Krishna had narada proclaiming every where he is Vishnu. Parashuram also joined in. Remember Parshurama in peace mission openly called him Narayana.


If he had no intention to be Vishnu Avatar why wasnt he telling Narada etc to Shut up.


Infact what was Vishwarupa in Hastinapur sabha. What was the point of that magical show if not to present himself as Vishnu.


What was the need to call his bow Sharanga. If he didnt want to be called Vishnu. Agni gave it to him, he could have refused or called it something else.


Remember Rama refused Sharanga bow and always used his Kodanda Bow.


Why was he roaming around with Srivatsa tattoo and why was Garuda on the flag of his chariot.


He didnt have to proclaim directly, he had a full fledged PR team for the purpose.


When his step brother paundraka tried the same thing, he killed him.


Mbh was Bharatvansh's story Harivansh is his. Harivansh has the relevant propanganda events of him being Vishnu. Mbh does not have as much, but he still has some like Vishwarupa.

I will not mention Gita here. That was definetly added later

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Chiillii

Mor Pankh is Krishna, something he liked and wore. Maybe only thing that was personal choice.


Original Vishnu iconography doesnt have mor pankh.

Peacock is associated with Karthikeya. Vishnu has Garuda.


Also Krishna started actually claiming he is Vishnu. Its there in Harivansh when he takes Garuda namesake to Rukmini Swayamvar.


And IMO Bhishma is simply being sarcastic or mocking Krishna as Vishnu in Rajasuya. He wasnt praising Krishna there.


Krishna had narada proclaiming every where he is Vishnu. Parashuram also joined in. Remember Parshurama in peace mission openly called him Narayana.


If he had no intention to be Vishnu Avatar why wasnt he telling Narada etc to Shut up.


Infact what was Vishwarupa in Hastinapur sabha. What was the point of that magical show if not to present himself as Vishnu.


What was the need to call his bow Sharanga. If he didnt want to be called Vishnu. Agni gave it to him, he could have refused or called it something else.


Remember Rama refused Sharanga bow and always used his Kodanda Bow.


Why was he roaming around with Srivatsa tattoo and why was Garuda on the flag of his chariot.


He didnt have to proclaim directly, he had a full fledged PR team for the purpose.


When his step brother paundraka tried the same thing, he killed him.


Mbh was Bharatvansh's story Harivansh is his. Harivansh has the relevant propanganda events of him being Vishnu. Mbh does not have as much, but he still has some like Vishwarupa.

I will not mention Gita here. That was definetly added later

@bold do you think it was an actual happening and not a poetic stanza or hyped storytelling by Vyasa


IMO that is not possible to happen in reality.

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Posted: 4 years ago

I finally decided against my better judgement and watched the latest episode......I had stopped in Vraja when the MIL came


I regret it. It has destroyed Krishna and Radha completely.


There was so much content available in the puranas for their lovestory.


Why did Sid T had to butcher them like this.


All for the sake of money. Its unforgivable. I am never watching this serial ever..

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

@bold do you think it was an actual happening and not a poetic stanza or hyped storytelling by Vyasa


IMO that is not possible to happen in reality.


A magical illusion, with smoke and sound, Basically a sound/smoke bomb causing enough diversion for him to break his chains and get Armed Kritaverma and Satyaki inside to his rescue.


Pradyumna uses this in an earlier war. A smoke / sound bomb that momentarily stuns and disorients the opponents.


Apparently there was also a smoke bomb that made people unconscious, Agarparna Gandharva taught Arjuna how to use it when he met the Pandavas on the way to Draupadi Swayamvar. Arjun uses that in Virat Parva (Sammohanastra)

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Chiillii


A magical illusion, with smoke and sound, Basically a sound/smoke bomb causing enough diversion for him to break his chains and get Armed Kritaverma and Satyaki inside to his rescue.


Pradyumna uses this in an earlier war. A smoke / sound bomb that momentarily stuns and disorients the opponents.


Apparently there was also a smoke bomb that made people unconscious, Agarparna Gandharva taught Arjuna how to use it when he met the Pandavas on the way to Draupadi Swayamvar. Arjun uses that in Virat Parva (Sammohanastra)

Or maybe something like hypnosis

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Chiillii

I finally decided against my better judgement and watched the latest episode......I had stopped in Vraja when the MIL came


I regret it. It has destroyed Krishna and Radha completely.


There was so much content available in the puranas for their lovestory.


Why did Sid T had to butcher them like this.


All for the sake of money. Its unforgivable. I am never watching this serial ever..


Yes.


But Krishna can handle some distortion. His image is too ingrained in the Indian psyche for this show to cause any lasting damage.


Radha is fan fiction.


What I find unforgivable:


1) the justification Swastik always gives to be a sex assaulter like Karna.


2) the damage done to Panchali by presenting her like a man crazy idiot rather than shrewd politician and pillar of ethics she was. The victim blaming done with the swaymavara statements and Andre ka putr statement and in THIS show, the deliberate placement of herself in danger ONLY to justify Pandavas (not to get rid of a problem as it actually was).


3) the damage done to Kunti who was an equally shrewd politician.


4) the justification of Yudhishtira and his poor judgement.


5) the despicable characterization of Lakshmana. No justice for the poor girl even in fiction.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Re: mythmaking


A few things we can all agree on.


1. Vyasa composed MBh. It was narrated by others AFTER the deaths of all main characters.


2. Harivamsa, whether or not omposed by Vyasa, was done after Krishna's death.


3. SB is a much later text.


Therefore, Krishna had no part in the myth making done via HV and SB.


Let's take MBh. More facts we can agree on.


4. Panchali was the one without a childhood, with a magical birth.


Pandavas had magical tales, too.


Both of those events had purposes. The men's being throne of Hastinapuri. Hers being eventual empress. Vyasa was involved in both myths.


5. Krishna's magical origin is not present in MBh. Even if someone did include it, there would be no point at this point in time because Krishna had no official role.


6. Krishna's weapons were named so by Varuna. Not by Krishna. In fact, Krishna and Arjuna were reluctant even to take part in the whole Khandava thing and agreed after persuasion by "grandfather."


7. Panchali was present in Khandava.


8. Indra's aim in Khandava was to kill Krishna.


Speculation: If Krishna actually died, how difficult would it have been to transfer what he did to the female Krishna? More mythmaking.


9. Until now, Krishna had no myth in Mbh


10. Shishupala vadh happened. Bheeshma, whether mockery or not, said Krishna was god.


Krishna didn't respond to it.


Here, it was BHEESHMA acting against Vyasa's mythmaking.


11. Dice hall happened. Panchali myth was shattered in public. Vyasa's attempt at portraying her as a magical woman was gone.


12. Vyasa wanted war. He said so to Yudhishtira.


13. Narada and Vyasa worked in conjunction.


14. Exile ended and Krishna magic started.


Extrapolation: with Panchali myth destroyed, Vyasa needed another myth for people to follow. Pandavas couldn't be it because their myth was also gone. Krishna was it.


15. After all main characters died, Vajra and Janmejaya took up the stories for their political purposes.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Or maybe something like hypnosis


Hypnosis won't work without audience cooperation.


Agree with Chili it was smoke bombs.


Another possibility is that smoke bombs contained a hallucinogen.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar


Yes.


But Krishna can handle some distortion. His image is too ingrained in the Indian psyche for this show to cause any lasting damage.


Radha is fan fiction.


What I find unforgivable:


1) the justification Swastik always gives to be a sex assaulter like Karna.


2) the damage done to Panchali by presenting her like a man crazy idiot rather than shrewd politician and pillar of ethics she was. The victim blaming done with the swaymavara statements and Andre ka putr statement and in THIS show, the deliberate placement of herself in danger ONLY to justify Pandavas (not to get rid of a problem as it actually was).


3) the damage done to Kunti who was an equally shrewd politician.


4) the justification of Yudhishtira and his poor judgement.


5) the despicable characterization of Lakshmana. No justice for the poor girl even in fiction.

I fully agree with all your views on this disoriented serial on the Divine romantic couple.

In this serial, their's was neither Spiritual association nor worldly love with romantic bonding! They presented it like a vagabonds' various misdeeds! Confused Radha and bewildered Krishna without any trace of love on their behavior but intermittently putting their heads on each other's shoulder in front of Krishna's wives and kids, to project them as eternal lovers!! Complete destruction of mythological stories. Surprisingly they've picked up all the negative and repulsive stories to move forward the serial in their own disoriented way!

Great harm is done by these people, which is irreversible!

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