Sleet of Emotional Quivers on RadhaKrishn Eternal Love CC # 9 - Page 103

Originally posted by: Sweetypie34

Better krishna reveal to all Radha is only wife..

This is going intolerable.

Kudos to you if you're still watching this nonsense.🤪 How are you still stable and not in a mental hospital ?

Originally posted by: Krishnpriya

So what is the crap swastik cicrus cooked this time ?

As per video shared jambavathi cursing krishna and saying radha ll be reason for dwarka vinas I think..not sure

Originally posted by: Krishnpriya

Kudos to you if you're still watching this nonsense.🤪 How are you still stable and not in a mental hospital ?

In Lockdown..working from home..so I tried to watch weekly once..not all..in weekends..I just tuned to hotstar and saw Friday epi only

Originally posted by: Krishnpriya

Too late now dear. Paani sar ke upar jaa chuka hai already. No amount of fact checking can reverse the damages done by these sinners. 😭

Forget the teenage lunatics, even we are unaware of many facts regarding Krishna's life. I was shocked to learn many truths thanks to our very knowledgeable ladies. 👏

Agreed. My point was not towards only this serial, but all mytho shows.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

I saw the the Insta post and was 😆.

Do the makers hate Krishna?

Seriously, my sympathies are not exactly with Samba at this time, but he seems to have justification for what he does. Also, Jambavati.

Daddy is roaming around with a woman married to someone else, and her word becomes law even in Jambavati's household. To the point that Samba gets no positive attention from Krishna even when he is a mere child. Things escalate, and instead of examining what is going wrong, all blame is heaped on Samba who gets cursed with what is an incurable disease at the time. Any woman in Jambavati's position would've done more than curse.

Why didn't they simply show the actual story? Samba in Krishna texts is a privileged, entitled brat all by himself, not because of Radha. He rapes Lakshmana. Krishna refuses to save him from Kauravas in spite of Jambavati begging. Balram saves Samba. Then, Samba proceeds to sleep with Krishna's wives and gets cursed. Eventually, he mocks the rishis until he gets his entire clan cursed.

(all this is still keeping with the supernatural; I don't believe Swastik will bother looking for rational explanations)

Presented as is, the story would've actually shown why Samba was a villain. Here, in spite of the production house's efforts, Radha and Krishna are coming across as immensely dislikable characters.

Argh. What am I saying? There was no Radha! Swastik's efforts to take Jayadeva's fan fiction and inject her into the entire Krishna story has turned the tale into an Ekta Kapoor soap opera.

Exactly!! Why coukd not the makers stick to the story when its completely possible and the right thing to do!!!! Unnecessarily pulling radha in everything is so illogical. I stopped watching just after draupadi swayamvar. How the heavens makers think that folks are liking this s***?????

@FP

https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03229.htm

"Skanda replied, 'So long as children of the human kind do not attain the youthful state in the sixteenth year of their age, ye shall afflict them with your various forms, and I too shall confer on you a fierce inexhaustible spirit. And with that ye shall live happily, worshipped by all.'"

"Markandeya continued, 'And then a fiery powerful being came out of the body of Skanda for the purpose of devouring the progeny of mortal beings. He fell down upon the ground, senseless and hungry. And bidden by Skanda, that genius of evil assumed a terrific form. Skandapasmara is the name by which it is known among good Brahmanas. Vinata is called the terrific Sakuni graha (spirit of evil). She who is known as Putana Rakshasi by the learned is the graha called Putana; that fierce and terrible looking Rakshasa of a hideous appearance is also called the pisacha, Sita Putana. That fierce-looking spirit is the cause of abortion in women. Aditi is also known by the name of Revati; her evil spirit is called Raivata, and that terrible graha also afflicts children. Diti, the mother of the Daityas (Asuras), is also called Muhkamandika, and that terrible creature is very fond of the flesh of little children. Those male and female children, O Kaurava, who are said to have been begotten by Skanda, are spirit of evil and they destroy the foetus in the womb. They (the Kumaras) are known as the husbands of those very ladies, and children are seized unawares by these cruel spirits. And, O king, Surabhi who is called the mother of bovine kind by the wise is best ridden by the evil spirit Sakuni, who in company with her, devours children on this earth. And Sarama, the mother of dogs, also habitually kills human beings while still in the womb. She who is the mother of all trees has her abode in a karanja tree. She grants boons and has a placid countenance and is always favourably disposed towards all creatures. Those persons who desire to have children, bow down to her, who is seated in a karanja tree. These eighteen evil spirits fond of meat and wine, and others of the same kind, invariably take up their abode in the lying-in-room for ten days. Kadru introduces herself in a subtle form into the body of a pregnant woman and there she causes the destruction of the foetus, and the

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mother is made to give birth to a Naga (serpent). And that mother of the Gandharvas takes away the foetus, and for this reason, conception in woman turns out to be abortive. The mother of the Apsaras removes the foetus from the womb, and for this reason such conceptions are said to be stationary by the learned. The daughter of the Divinity of the Red Sea is said to have nursed Skanda,--she is worshipped under the name of Lohitayani on Kadamva trees. Arya acts the same part among female beings, as Rudra does among male ones. She is the mother of all children and is distinctly worshipped for their welfare. These that I have described are the evil spirits presiding over the destinies of young children, and until children attain their sixteenth year, these spirits exercise their influence for evil, and after that, for good. The whole

Al childhood diseases; seizures, miscarriages, disease of flesh of little children (pox), bovine pox (cowpox is actually a thing, transferred from the udder of cows to humans).

Notice where it says worship the karanja tree. Oil extract from it is used to treat skin disorders.

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So Krishna either survived one of the poxes, or Kamsa deliberately sent a wet nurse with pox to Krishna. She died; the baby survived.

Krishna deffo had some kind of pox because there were marks on his hands and feet. Small pox virus and chicken pox can cause scars, but they're not limited to hands and feet. I'd say cow pox caused it or hand/foot/mouth disease, neither of which is fatal.

Perhaps Kamsa couldn't tell the diff between small pox and the nonfatal cowpox and sent a milkmaid with cowpox.

As to how Putana died... I bet parents were not happy to see a woman with pox feeding their son. Given the infection, they wouldn't have bothered to imprison her. She would've been straightaway killed.

No matter how it came about, Putana was actually childhood disease.

Originally posted by: Krishnpriya

Krishnasur lol 🤣

So true Dear, humans have the natural tendency of painting the nemesis of their favourite hero/heroin in absolute villainy.

What are your views on the technology used in kurukshetra war ? Was it really nuclear warfare ?

Salt petre I think. Arthashastra mentions it as a weapon of war. Steel was also starting around the time - lightweight weapons which were sharper.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

@FP

https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03229.htm

"Skanda replied, 'So long as children of the human kind do not attain the youthful state in the sixteenth year of their age, ye shall afflict them with your various forms, and I too shall confer on you a fierce inexhaustible spirit. And with that ye shall live happily, worshipped by all.'"

"Markandeya continued, 'And then a fiery powerful being came out of the body of Skanda for the purpose of devouring the progeny of mortal beings. He fell down upon the ground, senseless and hungry. And bidden by Skanda, that genius of evil assumed a terrific form. Skandapasmara is the name by which it is known among good Brahmanas. Vinata is called the terrific Sakuni graha (spirit of evil). She who is known as Putana Rakshasi by the learned is the graha called Putana; that fierce and terrible looking Rakshasa of a hideous appearance is also called the pisacha, Sita Putana. That fierce-looking spirit is the cause of abortion in women. Aditi is also known by the name of Revati; her evil spirit is called Raivata, and that terrible graha also afflicts children. Diti, the mother of the Daityas (Asuras), is also called Muhkamandika, and that terrible creature is very fond of the flesh of little children. Those male and female children, O Kaurava, who are said to have been begotten by Skanda, are spirit of evil and they destroy the foetus in the womb. They (the Kumaras) are known as the husbands of those very ladies, and children are seized unawares by these cruel spirits. And, O king, Surabhi who is called the mother of bovine kind by the wise is best ridden by the evil spirit Sakuni, who in company with her, devours children on this earth. And Sarama, the mother of dogs, also habitually kills human beings while still in the womb. She who is the mother of all trees has her abode in a karanja tree. She grants boons and has a placid countenance and is always favourably disposed towards all creatures. Those persons who desire to have children, bow down to her, who is seated in a karanja tree. These eighteen evil spirits fond of meat and wine, and others of the same kind, invariably take up their abode in the lying-in-room for ten days. Kadru introduces herself in a subtle form into the body of a pregnant woman and there she causes the destruction of the foetus, and the

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mother is made to give birth to a Naga (serpent). And that mother of the Gandharvas takes away the foetus, and for this reason, conception in woman turns out to be abortive. The mother of the Apsaras removes the foetus from the womb, and for this reason such conceptions are said to be stationary by the learned. The daughter of the Divinity of the Red Sea is said to have nursed Skanda,--she is worshipped under the name of Lohitayani on Kadamva trees. Arya acts the same part among female beings, as Rudra does among male ones. She is the mother of all children and is distinctly worshipped for their welfare. These that I have described are the evil spirits presiding over the destinies of young children, and until children attain their sixteenth year, these spirits exercise their influence for evil, and after that, for good. The whole

Al childhood diseases; seizures, miscarriages, disease of flesh of little children (pox), bovine pox (cowpox is actually a thing, transferred from the udder of cows to humans).

Notice where it says worship the karanja tree. Oil extract from it is used to treat skin disorders.

____________

So Krishna either survived one of the poxes, or Kamsa deliberately sent a wet nurse with pox to Krishna. She died; the baby survived.

Krishna deffo had some kind of pox because there were marks on his hands and feet. Small pox virus and chicken pox can cause scars, but they're not limited to hands and feet. I'd say cow pox caused it or hand/foot/mouth disease, neither of which is fatal.

Perhaps Kamsa couldn't tell the diff between small pox and the nonfatal cowpox and sent a milkmaid with cowpox.

As to how Putana died... I bet parents were not happy to see a woman with pox feeding their son. Given the infection, they wouldn't have bothered to imprison her. She would've been straightaway killed.

No matter how it came about, Putana was actually childhood disease.

Thanks dear. That clears it. I don't think it would have been a wet nurse, probably it was some pox that infant kanha got. Parents are very attentive for infants and it wouldn't have been possible for that girl to reach the infant. Plus children don't start taking feeds from outsiders easily.

In North India we call that family of deseases as Maata. Like a person affected with chicken pox will be said isko majhti maati aayi hai, measles as chhoti maata aayi hai. Households take it like some big pooja in house. No non veg prepared (I remember in my college hostel once 2 girls got it and the college ordered mess to cancel any non veg preparation)

Probably that maata n feeding thing came from this tradition itself

I think Krishnasur is a different person not the same as the Krishna of Mahabharat.

Rig Ved is a very old text, as per my study the RigVedic books were completely finalized by the time of Mahabharat this Krishna couldn't have been added into the Vedic texts.

On the contrary I think some characteristics of Krishnasur like his 16000 wives and his stay over a naag got added into Krishna of Mahabharat era to give him more divine and great attitude

Vyasa has left info for reader to interpret. You can take it as magical, or you can take it as metaphor.

The ONLY info I haven't been able to find is Panchali's origins.

Yes, I'm sure she was an Angirasa. Also sure Vyasa meant for her to be some kind of avatar. A 3rd thing I'm sure of is she was married before (Maudgalya) and therefore was probably older than usual at her swayamvara. Beautiful enough to pass off younger, though.

I'm almost sure she knew Krishna before swayamvara.

But that's it for any certainty on my part. The rest is extrapolation.

Anything else which is questionable, Vyasa has clues in other parts. Not her origins. Krishna, Yadavas, Arjuna, Yudhishtira, anyone of them... there are answers in text.