Sacrifice... Really ?! - Page 2

Originally posted by: Janu808

@bold *spoiler for the precap* they have invited Mahadev to probably praise this “great sacrifice”

@underline #totaltruth I always heard Swastik messed up shows and this time it has been hammered into my brain so I never ever forget for a 100 years...

Still mad if they were gonna give this sacrifice fine whatever but as you said Radha should know how evil Ayan is geez. They shouldn’t even have had this wedding drama. We could have continued with Radha Krishn unmarried and maybe Krishn setting Ayan straight but nooooo. Ugh idk what is going to happen but whatever it is it ain’t gonna be good.

And i am telling you that if the next track is society vs love, they will show Radha supporting Krishna in situations and them meeting secretly. Now what will you call this???? They messed up big time!!! LOL because they are not indicating that this show is ending soon

Originally posted by: Janu808

@bold *spoiler for the precap* they have invited Mahadev to probably praise this “great sacrifice”

@underline #totaltruth I always heard Swastik messed up shows and this time it has been hammered into my brain so I never ever forget for a 100 years...

Still mad if they were gonna give this sacrifice fine whatever but as you said Radha should know how evil Ayan is geez. They shouldn’t even have had this wedding drama. We could have continued with Radha Krishn unmarried and maybe Krishn setting Ayan straight but nooooo. Ugh idk what is going to happen but whatever it is it ain’t gonna be good.

And i am telling you that if the next track is society vs love, they will show Radha supporting Krishna in situations and them meeting secretly. Now what will you call this in the current context???? They messed up big time!!! LOL because they are not indicating that this show is ending soon

Originally posted by: Janu808

@bold *spoiler for the precap* they have invited Mahadev to probably praise this “great sacrifice”

@underline #totaltruth I always heard Swastik messed up shows and this time it has been hammered into my brain so I never ever forget for a 100 years...

Still mad if they were gonna give this sacrifice fine whatever but as you said Radha should know how evil Ayan is geez. They shouldn’t even have had this wedding drama. We could have continued with Radha Krishn unmarried and maybe Krishn setting Ayan straight but nooooo. Ugh idk what is going to happen but whatever it is it ain’t gonna be good.

MahaDev is not coming to the wedding. Besides, he might ask Narayan what is this leela he's doing!

Already that I see MahaDev I wonder what he's doing there, so besides making him participate in all this... it's without comment!

This is the first Swatik series I've ever watched, I wanted to watch MahaKali, but I gave up!

Radha is just a puppet, she never knows anything, she just follows what she is told! I swear, I want to shake her so badly that she'll react.

I would also have preferred them to continue with RadhaKrishn single, we were already used to it, justice should have started to take place, the bad guys should have started paying and especially Radha should have started to know who Krishna is!

But they love drama, so they serve it to us tasteless!

Originally posted by: RainFire125

And i am telling you that if the next track is society vs love, they will show Radha supporting Krishna in situations and them meeting secretly. Now what will you call this???? They messed up big time!!! LOL because they are not indicating that this show is ending soon

I don't even want to think about it, otherwise you already know what's going to happen 😆

Originally posted by: ReadLo

I don't know the age range of people on this forum, I'd like to apologize in advance if my comments will sound harsh or you have the impression that I judge you, it's not the case, I just want to make understand some things that few people seem to have noticed.

Many say that RadhaKrishn should not be taken too seriously, it is only an entertainment, etc...

I am not contradicting that, yes, it is entertainment, but what no one dares or wants to point out is that in the name of entertainment several things are demonstrated negatively and that everyone finds this normal when we should make it clear that it is not normal.

Swastik came saying we're going to show you the true love, the love of RadhaKrishn, etc... They sold a story that would make any audience dream, but...

I think I don't have to repeat myself, many already know what I think, but I will talk about "SACRIFICE" and "GOD".

Here we see GOD crying for liters of tears for several days.

Here we see GOD manipulating for several days.

Here we see GOD planning for several days.

Here we see GOD lying for several days.

Here we see GOD letting evil win for several days.

And everyone mourns a separation in the name of the great sacrifice!

WHAT SACRIFICE?

Because I'd like to understand?

Radha doesn't want her parents to go into exile for her happiness, so she "sacrifices" her happiness for them?

Until now it has been about love, Krishna has spoken that if the children are not happy the parents will not be happy and vice versa.

So they decided to make sure to manipulate and lie to their entourage to make it look like it was their decision to stop this wedding charade? For their love?

I don't mind that RK doesn't get married, I don't care.

On the other hand, I care what happens in the annex!

Vrishban made this promise because his ego could not accept "selfless" help from Ugrapat, so as a proud man he is, he promises him Mount and Wonder!

Ugrapat says who MahaProhit is learns that his son almost killed the girl he loves, and that he brought plenty of asore back to the village he serves. He makes it a family secret, because his image matters a lot. Then he thinks that his God has been insulted, so he comes to hate Krishna out of pure ignorance, but this man is no better than the rest of his family, he continues in his pride and will go and ask for his promise. He says he thought of Radha's happiness, but no, he thinks of himself. His son wants Radha as if it were a commodity and everyone stays calm and cries "oh no, RK is going to be separated because they are never married", but does that really matter?

RK begins their river of tears.

They decide not to marry for the happiness (love?) of Radha's parents, and in the name of the great sacrifice?

BUT WHAT A SACRIFICE, I'M STILL ASKING YOU!

On the one hand it is said that parents cannot be happy if the children are not happy, but mothers see that their children are making films, but they support them as if that were normal?

That Radha cannot be happy because her parents sacrifice themselves for her happiness I understand that, but not by granting the wishes of selfish and wicked people, that is NO!

Radha doesn't know anything, but Krishna does!

Until now we show human Krishna, then Narayan, etc.... We have to decide what he is! Because if someone takes me out, it's a Krishna Leela you have to wait to understand, sorry, but I don't want to understand anything! He is putting the one he loves in the balance of evil, yeah Radha has received a blessing saying in the house that she will make him well, the house of Jatila? Good luck to her! Above all, she never fights for herself, she'll just be eaten raw and Krishna will just be a viewer in all this, in the name of Radha's happy marriage life!

THAT HIS LOVE IS GREAT!

Evil cannot win over good and no matter what path is planned afterwards, I am not interested, it is the present that counts.

Because Ayan has not been bought back, he must be punished, and right now, he is just happy to have won the commodity he spent his life negotiating!

Sorry to put Radha on the list of a commodity, but at the point where she went to sell herself in the marketplace to be married, let's be honest and say what's going on.

Man (I am talking about CV's) has reduced the image of God to a puppet that lets itself be guided by fate. Yes Krishna can't undo what he did, but the rest is in his hands!

So even if he can't change the promise Vrishban made to Ugrapat, he can protect the one he loves, even if he can't marry her!

I don't understand why we outside this story sees several possible leads, but in the name of the drama the CV's didn't see it!

Justice attracts as much as drama! But let's put that aside.

Not every truth is good to say, but it must be said.

Making a sacrifice is something that changes a life, you don't do it to be "mahan", because it won't make you happy in life.

Doing good is good, but when it supports evil, we have also participated in it.

So indirectly Krishna validated everything Ayan and Jatila have done so far.

Ayan won Radha, but Jatila lost Barsana! But that doesn't mean she's going to sit back and do nothing, now that her son of theirs has what he wants, she's going to want what she's always wanted!

Many say that no evil did not win because it was RK who made the decision not to get married, really?

What is the final result?

Ayan marries Radha well, doesn't he?

So who wins?

As for Vrishban and Kritika, they lived their lives, Vrishban had to pay for what he did, he promised, he pays.

Radha said she accepted their sacrifice, because then yes it would have been a justified sacrifice, Vrishban couldn't ask Radha to pay for him, but in the end, she was just torn, and she played the turtle and refused to say things. She couldn't be happy because her parents are leaving for her, but she can be happy by leaving for them... Let someone explain to me the logic of this thought!

RadhaKrishn made no justifiable sacrifice in my eyes!

It's not a matter of sacrificing their love for the love of the parents. Nothing can make me believe that what came out of this story is good.

Because the rest, even without seeing it, we already see the struggle between society and love. And the way Radha will be portrayed will not be glorious!

When you sacrifice something, you must be happy with your sacrifice and not cry for your decision.

Radha makes this "sacrifice" for her parents, so she should have been strong, lifted her head and gone all the way and not always looked at Krishna for support and agreement!

Krishna makes this "sacrifice" so that Radha will be happy in her life, because for Radha to be happy her parents must be in her life, then he should have made sure to put only good in her way!

Except they're just crying over them, so please don't use the word "sacrifice" just to mark something that seems to be "good"!

And at the end of today's episode we had a Krishna Vani that lasted longer than usual because Krishna had to justify why he did what he did, as if that were normal.

We support actors because they only play what they are asked to play, but we cannot support a production company that seems to be in the name of entertainment - everything is justifiable!

VERY WELL SAID.

Vrishban made this promise because his ego could not accept "selfless" help from Ugrapat, so as a proud man he is, he promises him Mount and Wonder! --> nice observation.

I am curious about one thing. The 'MANY' you are talking about, seriously who are they ? Pretty sure they are Swastiks' PR people. But if they are not, I want the patent to experiment on their brains. If they can find sense in this track, I want to find out the point what my incapable brain is missing.

I have left watching it since Krishna decided to 'sacrifice'. I know the storyline from my mom and fast-forwarding hotstar. My mom still watches hoping that the truth will be revealed by Krishna just after the wedding. But she doesn't find any sensibility in the current track either.

Originally posted by: stormborn

VERY WELL SAID.

Vrishban made this promise because his ego could not accept "selfless" help from Ugrapat, so as a proud man he is, he promises him Mount and Wonder! --> nice observation.

I am curious about one thing. The 'MANY' you are talking about, seriously who are they ? Pretty sure they are Swastiks' PR people. But if they are not, I want the patent to experiment on their brains. If they can find sense in this track, I want to find out the point what my incapable brain is missing.

I have left watching it since Krishna decided to 'sacrifice'. I know the storyline from my mom and fast-forwarding hotstar. My mom still watches hoping that the truth will be revealed by Krishna just after the wedding. But she doesn't find any sensibility in the current track either.

I'm talking about some people on the forum who already know what I think of the plot.

But I also wrote to Swatik, to the scriptwriter.

I needed to know how the idea came to them to make Radha (a Goddess who doesn't know who she is, but Krishna knows who she is) end up marrying evil in person who is Ayan.

I watched the episodes with a great detachment. Even their moment was tasteless for me, because the next scene we have tears and tears and tears and tears.

Then we see the smile of Ayan and Jatila, it is beyond our understanding.

I don't know how long the show will last, but I'm not sure the truths will be told!

Ugrapat will remain silent, the only solution is for Radha to discover things and post her in-laws on the market square, maybe it could buy the scene where she sells herself to evil on the same square!

I wish your mother's wish would come true, but Swatik is not the type to wake her audience from a nightmare, he loves to prolong it, so she has to be patient.

Originally posted by: ReadLo

I'm talking about some people on the forum who already know what I think of the plot.

But I also wrote to Swatik, to the scriptwriter.

I needed to know how the idea came to them to make Radha (a Goddess who doesn't know who she is, but Krishna knows who she is) end up marrying evil in person who is Ayan.

I watched the episodes with a great detachment. Even their moment was tasteless for me, because the next scene we have tears and tears and tears and tears.

Then we see the smile of Ayan and Jatila, it is beyond our understanding.

I don't know how long the show will last, but I'm not sure the truths will be told!

Ugrapat will remain silent, the only solution is for Radha to discover things and post her in-laws on the market square, maybe it could buy the scene where she sells herself to evil on the same square!

I wish your mother's wish would come true, but Swatik is not the type to wake her audience from a nightmare, he loves to prolong it, so she has to be patient.

I don't have experiences about Swastic. So I take your word for it. I always wanted a good show on RadhaKrishna. So this one was kind of a wish fulfillment for me. I absolutely loved it until they started the marriage track. All the Rash, the holi, the shiva-parvati-krishna encounters--all were so beautiful. So I am glad they made this. I just wish instead of showing the marriage track like this and ruining it, they could have just showed the forest wedding under Brahma (like it's in some mythos), and then after some good moments, Ayan Jatila getting revealed and punished, then ending it with Krishna going to Mathura killing Kans and Radha never getting married again.

Originally posted by: stormborn

I don't have experiences about Swastic. So I take your word for it. I always wanted a good show on RadhaKrishna. So this one was kind of a wish fulfillment for me. I absolutely loved it until they started the marriage track. All the Rash, the holi, the shiva-parvati-krishna encounters--all were so beautiful. So I am glad they made this. I just wish instead of showing the marriage track like this and ruining it, they could have just showed the forest wedding under Brahma (like it's in some mythos), and then after some good moments, Ayan Jatila getting revealed and punished, then ending it with Krishna going to Mathura killing Kans and Radha never getting married again.

It's what we all wanted. But the drama is what they love. So they served us.

Anyway, the next track will start between tomorrow or Saturday. So we'll see what temperature it will give.

I bet the show will end in September. Let's see if I win my bet.

I also liked a lot of things, especially the krodh part with GopaDevi and BelDevi, it's the most successful for me. I'm not going to reject all of them because of what's going on right now. Even though they ended up ruining things, they showed us beautiful things too.

Originally posted by: ReadLo

It's what we all wanted. But the drama is what they love. So they served us.

Anyway, the next track will start between tomorrow or Saturday. So we'll see what temperature it will give.

I bet the show will end in September. Let's see if I win my bet.

I also liked a lot of things, especially the krodh part with GopaDevi and BelDevi, it's the most successful for me. I'm not going to reject all of them because of what's going on right now. Even though they ended up ruining things, they showed us beautiful things too.

I loved everything until the moment Krishna overheard Radha about the promise and decided to 'sacrifice' . I loved all the Vikar tracks. I loved how it was the 2019 era appropriate. ( Like how the flute was like a cellphone when Radha called Krishna all the time like teen girls often do.) Those tracks were actually capable of teaching love to youngsters. And that's why it hurts more after this massive disappointment.

Here is the message I sent last night to Utkarsh Naithani, who is dealing with Radhakrishn in Swastik.

Dear Utkarsh,

I am quitting your Radhakrishn because I can no longer stand pure evil being rewarded in the name of a so-called sacrifice by your lead pair.

It is not just the girl getting married to someone else, Utkarsh. It is that Krishna has got her married to.a purely evil Ayan. It is not as though only Jatila is evil and Ayan is an innocent. He is every bit as wicked as she is. So what is this but promoting evil?

One more, and vital point. Krishna KNOWS what Ayan has been and is. Radha does not. This makes what Krishna does far worse.

Because I cannot stand a God who alternates between being divine and being human. Who is sarvantaryami but doesn't seem to know what is going to happen tomorrow.

A Radha who seems to have no independent thought process at all, but is just a puppet to do whatever Krishna tells her to do. And he has, in effect, handed her over to a couple of devils. Next will be Radha being tortured by.Jatila. Ugh..

Can no longer stand these buckets of tears, a whole week of it!! Swastik must have gone in for bulk purchases of glycerine!

Utkarsh, you know how fond I am of you and how much I love your writing. But NOT this stuff. No longer.

It is like a 1960s Gemini melodrama. Kya tha aur kya ho gaya hai! It is enough to make one weep.

Warmest regards.

Shyamala Cowsik

He replied that things would get back on track in a couple of episodes, whatever that means, and that I would have no more complaints.

Let us see how things develop. Right now, I agree with everything that has been said in this and other recent threads in this forum - including the very valid point that Vrishban has NO right to.hand over Radha to anyone as if, in that delightful phrase, she were a sack of wheat, and that such a promise is invalid per se.

After enduring the last.few episodes of a show I had come to love, bad patches and all, right now, I feel sick.

Shyamala Cowsik