Who has a worse past, Seher or Sanam2? [DT-Pg7] - Page 3

Originally posted by: SurbhikiPankhi

Yeah, but that kind hate was less. Now it's too much. Seher isn't a villain because villains don't correct their mistakes, and from what I see, that's what Seher is trying to do, isn't she? Unless you disagree Ofcourse. Neither did she ever gloat about it, she was selfish, yes but that's what makes her human. Being selfish doesn't make you a villain.

I said two faced, like she is in front of Aahil. Still the sobbing mess she pretended to be or well, was. I don't actually see her as a villain in anyway, I don't have sympathy for her but I don't think she deserves mindless hate either. She's justified in her actions to the point she's not harming someone for it.

Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan

Since Sanam2's past is sketchy we know little of what she went through. People called her Manhoos, coz of her nail and possibly coz they knew of her witchly abilities. I think that women who spoke to Tannu said her parents died and that anyone who comes in contact with her has bad luck!

Obviously she knows witchcraft well from what we have seen to date, and knows how to use it against those she wants to revenge herself on. I dont know who had the worse past, but I believe that people do deserves a chance at redemption. Even Sanam2. Seher is trying to do this, but of course people on this forum don't want to let her past be forgotten! So I guess it's a tall order.

No one says Seher is a good person. But even if Seher is a terrible person, that dosent make Sanam 2 justified in her behavior nor does it make her more pitiable. Just like police was after Seher for her crimes, maybe people shunned Sanam2 coz she curses people? To date, we have not seen enough of what her past was like to decide if she had it worse than Seher. I dont know about Seher, but Sanam 2 DID go to school up to 10th, Coz the women who spoke to Tanveer said that she went to school up to the 10th standard. So she does have some education and appears to understand English as well.

I think Seher speaks English coz either she went to school, or coz she had an English speaking foster Mother. Also, she is from Mumbai. I think most people in Metro's know English. Correct me if I am wrong. I am not from India.

So we can infer what the kind of mental impact it must have had on Sanam2 when she was called 'manhoos' for her entire life. So frankly I don't see where the harm is in pitying her. In fact, Sanam2 is more pitiable than Seher purely due to her ambiguous past and her current circumstances. She was brought in by Tanveer to marry Aahil, she didn't marry Aahil on her own whim or seperate SaHil unlike Seher, so I'm not sure why she's getting all the hate directed to her. Ofc now she obviously wants to separate SaHil because she wants her husband for herself, so where is the harm in that? Until recently, she had no clue that he was previously married. So what exactly has she done wrong that she needs redeeming? Maybe she needs redeeming for cursing people and her black magic use, but how can we be sure that she hasn't done all that in retaliation or provocation as well? Just like we are not exactly sure of her past, we also don't know of the circumstances that lead to her becoming a witch. Therefore, I can only sympathise with her at this point.

As for Seher's redemption, the first step to redemption is acknowledgment of own misdeeds. Forget acknowledgment, Seher has decided to shift the entire blame to others' shoulders. So how exactly am I supposed to give her a chance at redemption, when she is so glib and fails to recognise her giant contribution to this entire mess?

Regarding the English, Seher's foster mother has a poor command on the English language herself, so I'm not sure how Seher can speak better English than her teacher (foster mother), if that's the case.
And most people living in Metro cities in India can speak satisfactory English, provided they don't hail from impoverished conditions, and I don't think Seher was that well off (considering what we have seen of her past in the show so far).

And she has been shown to be able to read and write, ergo that leaves one option, she must have been educated at least till primary school level.

Originally posted by: SurbhikiPankhi

I agree completely! Sanam2 deserves all the happiness she can get all she faced so much.
And since she went through so much, she should get no hate for actually harming people, and practicing black magic! Not only this! I think she deserves Aahil too! I mean if Seher, can get Rehan, she should get Aahil. Poor Sanam2. 😭

Of course. Since having a terrible past constitutes to having the power of doing wrong and getting away with it in the present, then why the heck not? 😛

So does this debate implicitly prove that the worse the past the higher the limit of allowable crimes...

Originally posted by: minnie2308

So does this debate implicitly proves that the worse the past the higher the limit of allowable crimes...

Even with a worse past, Sanam2 is fighting only for her own husband ...the same husband who was deserted at alter by first wife .

Well the first wife came back and saidshe is OK for the husband to do all the related husband's duties . It is another matter that she did not mean it.

ahil isn't his husband on the first place
their marriage is invalid
n how dare she call sanam a servant when their divorce has not happened

What is sanam 2 getting in return for helping the sisters...common she saved their lives despite being the sautan

and this seher during that blue moon sequence hurt sanam 2 even more ...i mean when someone is hurt and crying you sympathize with them sanam 1 still did at most of the times but seher spoke to s2 about who has more control over ahil...okay sahil lov each other but where is s2 's fault she had made a deal with tanu fr a better life and who will not for a man like ahil 😆 ofcourse anyone wood.

so i think seher instead of showing s2 attitude can make a humble request to her for not spoiling her sister sanam's life and shud promise sanam 2 that they will support her and let her stay in mansion if she agrees to this deal so that s2 does nt hav to go back to where she came from...but yes they shud also tell her that once our truth is out than sanam 2 shudnt b ahil wife...in this way all would b happy

And yes it is 100% true that seher has done many mistakes and being sanam sister she is not helping the way she is required to...and yes being asya's daughter has been a boon to her as all her past crimes hav easily been frgotten and forgiven and i dont feel she has guilt for what she did in the past...cime is crime she cheated so many but got easily away with it but for S2 it would b really toughi 😆

Originally posted by: additilicious

What is sanam 2 getting in return for helping the sisters...common she saved their lives despite being the sautan

and this seher during that blue moon sequence hurt sanam 2 even more ...i mean when someone is hurt and crying you sympathize with them sanam 1 still did at most of the times but seher spoke to s2 about who has more control over ahil...okay sahil lov each other but where is s2 's fault she had made a deal with tanu fr a better life and who will not for a man like ahil 😆 ofcourse anyone wood.

so i think seher instead of showing s2 attitude can make a humble request to her for not spoiling her sister sanam's life and shud promise sanam 2 that they will support her and let her stay in mansion if she agrees to this deal so that s2 does nt hav to go back to where she came from...but yes they shud also tell her that once our truth is out than sanam 2 shudnt b ahil wife...in this way all would b happy

And yes it is 100% true that seher has done many mistakes and being sanam sister she is not helping the way she is required to...and yes being asya's daughter has been a boon to her as all her past crimes hav easily been frgotten and forgiven and i dont feel she has guilt for what she did in the past...cime is crime she cheated so many but got easily away with it but for S2 it would b really toughi 😆

oh come on do u have any proof that sanam 2 was actually a duniya ki satai hui besahara abla nari before koi black magic DO din me nahi sikh leta usne bachpan se seekha hoga n dusro pe apne fayde k liye use bhi kiya hoga

Sanam 2 is no Abala Nari that we need to cry over. Seher isnt either. However, I will not agree that she is "Fighting for her right". No she is not. She very well knows Tanveer is just trying to spoil Aahil and Sanam's life, but that is not her concern!

Originally posted by: ankiecool

oh come on do u have any proof that sanam 2 was actually a duniya ki satai hui besahara abla nari beforekoi black magic DO din me nahi sikh letausne bachpan se seekha hoga n dusro pe apne fayde k liye use bhi kiya hoga

when did i say that she learnt black magic in 2 days

YES SHE IS A BECHARI and she hasnt used black magic before i cant say surely becoz her past was not shown in detail but from what was shown we infer that yes she was called manhoos becoz of toenail and if she had used black magic then...she would hav been all pwerful and would hav used it to against sanam from start in order to gain ahil but she didnt instead she helped the sisters but they did not help s 2 in realising that the marriage was a mistake...everyone made her feel that its ok to b a second wife...when all knew that in that way both sahil and s2 will b hurt none would b happy but sry to say it didnt happen so for sanam 2 this nikaah is valid and ahil is her husband and in order to make a happy living now she is trying to get his love...firstly she tried to b a gud wife but he did not respond so she is using her knwledge on black magic coz this is what she knws ( frget the validity of nikah ...coz no one in the family not even ahil and sase are trying to figure that out which they in my opinion shud do asap)

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