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Posted: 11 years ago
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Great post. The way Aahil said Qubool Hai three times was so poignant and meaningful. He closed his eyes and you could see him with each Qubool Hai, how it becomes an acceptance from his heart. First time he says it more due to his Ammi's insistence, more how this is all happening. But by the third Qubool Hai you see how it's really a true acceptance from his heart despite (and perhaps because of) everything.
I am still not okay with the public humiliation. I am able to get a better understanding of what and why this happens. But one thing I definitely will not be okay with is him being physical with her. i truly hope that dance comes off better in the episode than how it came off in the segments.

As for the public humiliation, it bothers me. At first I thought maybe he got drunk after seeing Rehan-Sanam, and maybe with some Tanveer manipulations mixed in, and lashed out. it may have been more acceptable for me, may be. I don't know. But now, after today's episode, chances may be that he's truly sober.

I really, really need a proper remorseful, regretful and sorry Aahil. And I need him to be sorry for this act SPECIFICALLY! Not just everything all together all jumbled up...oh, he feels bad...that's it. And I need him to express his remorse and regret to Sanam.

And to be honest, I actually need him to express some regret and remorse to Sanam for this act specifically soon. I don't know if I will get it or not. But right now...the public humiliation doesn't sit well with me at all.

I am however willing to give it a chance and watch and see where and how this all plays out.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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OK I like your approach. You tried to throw light to what might be the scenario of those wretched clippings.
But no matter what, I don't think it justifies the behavior of ill treating your wife in public or private.

There has been so much debate on that subject already and I know we shared similar views on KK's thread. So I am not going to discuss that.

Just in my opinion- Aahil is no Othello. But I know what you are trying to imply too. Clouded the two characters are.

Othello worships Desdemona, Aahil is in blind madness from the start.
Although we do witness, rage, suspicion, jealousy and murder in the end with Othello. I pray hope we have a better end here.

PS - I can't wait for Aahil being possessive. Show me something like that, where he tells Rehan that he will take care of his wife and doesn't need Rehan's help.

Show us something some clue so that the poor girl knows, Aahil cares, is being serious and it is not a bloody drama.
Edited by Perfectionist2 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: KhatamKahani

Great post. The way Aahil said Qubool Hai three times was so poignant and meaningful. He closed his eyes and you could see him with each Qubool Hai, how it becomes an acceptance from his heart. First time he says it more due to his Ammi's insistence, more how this is all happening. But by the third Qubool Hai you see how it's really a true acceptance from his heart despite (and perhaps because of) everything.

I am still not okay with the public humiliation. I am able to get a better understanding of what and why this happens. But one thing I definitely will not be okay with is him being physical with her. i truly hope that dance comes off better in the episode than how it came off in the segments.

As for the public humiliation, it bothers me. At first I thought maybe he got drunk after seeing Rehan-Sanam, and maybe with some Tanveer manipulations mixed in, and lashed out. it may have been more acceptable for me, may be. I don't know. But now, after today's episode, chances may be that he's truly sober.

I really, really need a proper remorseful, regretful and sorry Aahil. And I need him to be sorry for this act SPECIFICALLY! Not just everything all together all jumbled up...oh, he feels bad...that's it. And I need him to express his remorse and regret to Sanam.

And to be honest, I actually need him to express some regret and remorse to Sanam for this act specifically soon. I don't know if I will get it or not. But right now...the public humiliation doesn't sit well with me at all.

I am however willing to give it a chance and watch and see where and how this all plays out.



Totally agree. When he said Qubool Hai, he meant it. It was done consciously and it was not to please his Mother. He was fulfilling his greatest wish. Claiming the women he loves as his. What he had been struggling to do. What circumstances and his misunderstanding of Rehan and Sanam's relationship had prevented him from doing. Declaring his feelings and staking a claim on her! Now that very same women he thought was someone he had to forget and move on from, was in front of him as his bride! SHE had already agreed to marry him. Now it was his turn and he could not back out!!


Their wedding night when Sanam asked him why he married her? Why did you say yes...?? It was for the money right? He vehemently said "of course not". The very words were proof that his inheritance had never come into it for him. That is why the thought that she married him for money hurt him this much. If it was anyone else, he would not have cared as much. Even Nida, though a friend of his, he still would have made peace with the fact that she was in it for the money and position. He wont like it, but it wouldn't kill him. But he is in love with Sanam. So he can't take this reality in relation to her with the same gumption he otherwise would have. He always came across as a realist. Emotional, but a realist none the less.


Now with Rehan and Sanam, he just can't control his feelings. Sanam is HIS wife. She herself told him "Main Apki Biwi Hun Aahil". So this in itself is a confirmation that they have some rights over each other. Now to see her all cosy and lovey dovey with Rehan on the back of all that, was more than he could take. Therefore I think he is going to behave very badly to get Sanam's attention and hurt her, like he himself is hurting. I don't agree with the method, but I understand the forces driving him. Aahil is a very flawed individual. So it's a given that his methods would be flawed too. This is the very reason we are all so fascinated by him.
Edited by MrDarcyfan - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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^^ I think Aahil never had an issue with a compromise marriage with Nida. it's where his contradictions come into play. He would've lived up to the marriage and went on and respected the marriage, but he and Nida both knew that it was more a marriage of convenience, one where they would respect the marriage but still a convenience.
He could/would never haved agreed to that with Sanam, since he loves her.

Aahil behaving badly...it needs not to be brushed over. And also there can't be a constant imbalance. We shall see how it goes.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Perfectionist2

OK I like your approach. You tried to throw light to what might be the scenario of those wretched clippings.

But no matter what, I don't think it justifies the behavior of ill treating your wife in public or private.

There has been so much debate on that subject already and I know we shared similar views on KK's thread. So I am not going to discuss that.

Just in my opinion- Aahil is no Othello. But I know what you are trying to imply too. Clouded the two characters are.

Othello worships Desdemona, Aahil is in blind madness from the start.
Although we do witness, rage, suspicion, jealousy and murder in the end with Othello. I pray hope we have a better end here.

PS - I can't wait for Aahil being possessive. Show me something like that, where he tells Rehan that he will take care of his wife and doesn't need Rehan's help.

Show us something some clue so that the poor girl knows, Aahil cares, is being serious and it is not a bloody drama.



I took the example of Othello coz he is the poster boy for the destructive force of jealousy. The price you pay for taking the wrong counsel and misunderstanding the one you love. Also, the paranoia caused by jealousy that can prevent you from seeing the truth.


Aahil is in a similar boat here. He had taken the counsel of his poisonous mother that Sanam married him for money. He has misunderstood the extent of the relationship between Sanam and Rehan. He watches from afar and puts his own construction on what he thinks he is seeing. So all this would lead to his destructive behaviour.


I doubt that anything as dramatic as what happened in Othello will happen here. But considering the state of mind that Aahil is in, anyone can fill his ears and I think his Mummy dearest will most definitely try, and maybe even succeed to some extent. But I fully agree that humiliation is not needed. But this is a drama and I think all this will be done for full on dramatic effect. But I still find such displays unpalatable! But having said that, even in real life, people act like jerks when they are backed into a corner. Especially when they are jealous. It can make a villain out of the most even tempered person. And let's face it, Aahil is not one! :)
Edited by MrDarcyfan - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Love your well thought out post. 👏
Aahil has more layers that an onion !!😆... Also as tearjerking , Sanam's and ours 😭...

For once he is torn between the two people he is actually impressed with and genuinely cares for. He actually feels very close to Rehan, more than his sisters, because there is a returning brotherly affection, loyalty, concern and understanding. He actually gave Sanam up when he discovered Rehan loved her. That's the true Aahil, who would do anything for those close to his heart.

He loves Sanam, but because of Rehan, he doesn't want to reach out to claim her, although she is legally his. If he only knew that she didn't reciprocate Rehan's love...

I think, after last night's tentative olive branch from Sanam, Aahil will begin to hope. He does what she asks of him, after her claiming her right as a wife. But after hurting her feelings and finding her being consoled by Rehan, he's going to very very angry, and stake his claim as a husband.

Main aapki shauhar hoon...
Although it looks very unpleasant, I believe the unsavory dance is leading to a meltdown. Where feelings will be expressed.
I hope...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan

Oh!Darcyfan! What a post! Every time i see the O word around various forums,i scream "Nooo" .

I just saw the new SBS and SBB segments. It is very clear now that Aahil is burning in jealousy over the closeness shared by Sanam and Rehan. Let's not forget that Aahil is privy to a lot of information regarding their relationship. He witnessed their growing closeness from day dot. He noticed when Sanam and Rehan started to hang out and talk to each other and laugh. He noticed the change in Rehan. He knew something was going on with him. I have to give it to Aahil for noticing the change in Rehan, but Rehan has not seen the way Aahil has changed. Maybe his pre conceived notions regarding the Sanam-Aahil relationship prevented him from seeing Aahil's true feelings towards Sanam. But it appears he still remains oblivious to them just like Sanam. It will be interesting to see how long that lasts!
From the spoilers, seems it's not just Ahil who is burning in possessive jealously,Sanam is on the same road,just that Sanam's looks cute& romantic & Ahil's obsessive and destructive. Rehan is choosing to ignore what's going on right under his nose, just like his blind Mom.From KVB,SJ interviews,(appreciate these two for freely sharing upcoming tracks),seems,Ahil's jealous antics will open Sanam's eyes to Rehan's feelings & she'll distance herself & Rehan will realise his self proclaimed "dost" has become his Bhabhi.

A point to note also is that Aahil was aware that Rehan was going to propose to Sanam. He also saw that scene where Rehan says "I love you Sanam". But Aahil didn't realise that Sanam had already left. So she is clueless regarding the fact that Rehan is in love with her. Sanam is just like her parents. Clueless in matters of the heart. So I didn't expect her to clue up anyway! :)


Aahil's jealousy is nothing new. It started long before the marriage. He was jealous when he saw them hug, when he saw how Sanam was always happy and relaxed around Rehan. He was struggling with his feelings and their closeness made it even harder for him. Then came the Nikah and Sanam ended up becoming his. I predicted that after the Nikah he will be possessive of Sanam. Especially around Rehan. My prediction has come true.
With you on this one, totally!
Ahil's is not the sacrificing kind of love.I won't forget that, Ahil is reared by pigs(Khala &Kalu) and a cat and he acted as true son of Billi. Billi pursued other women's lovers & husbands with single minded focus and that's what Ahil did,before his marriage.I don't think Tanveer would have ever left Asad,if she had succeeded in her first attempt,similarly Ahil is never going to let Sanam go,because he wants her and nobody stops him from getting what he wants.It's Karma biting Rehan thr' Mom's upbringing.

Whatever lies Aahil tells himself about his marriage to Sanam... The truth is that he only said "Qubool Hai" because he loved her. He had a chance to make her his and he took it. Maybe it was subconscious. But I think somewhere he also knows the real reason he said "qubool hai". One of the reasons he felt guilty around Rehan. He knows that he took Rehan's love. Inadvertently, because he himself wanted her! This is the truth that stalks Aahil day and night. To top that, he believes his wife married him for mercenary reasons, while clearly preferring another man to him! Even a man less intense and passionate than Aahil, would find such a truth unpalatable. But someone like Aahil will be barely able to control himself faced with such a reality!


Therefore, I think Aahil is currently like Othello. He has misunderstood what Sanam feels for Rehan. So whenever he seems her with Rehan, he puts his own interpretation on what he thinks he is seeing! He is fuelling the fire in him daily, just like Othello did. A jealous man is a destructive man. We can't expect any good behaviour from Aahil now. He is just going to keep acting out to get Sanam's attention, or hurt her like he is hurting!
Jealousy can also be a great motivator.May be Ahil will try to be like Rehan?
More than jealously,I'm interested in the trust factor.How much does Ahil trust Sanam now?IMO, enough to question Sanam on her reasons for the Nikkah & seek different answers than the ones that his Mom gave.We'll only come to know his reaction when he knows why she needed the money.May be he'll trust her more and feel more secure & less jealous?Ahil heard from the horse's mouth,"I AM your wife" and Rehan only heard it from the cat "she WILL be your wife".Am expecting some good behaviour from Ahil!😆


Remains to be seen if Tanveer plays Iago, and convinces an already paranoid and jealous Aahil that there IS in fact a relationship between Sanam and Rehan. This will serve her well, because she will try to make sure that Aahil mistrusts Sanam and maybe even divorces her due to this fact! Either ways... This space just got even more interesting and continues to become more and more intense daily! I absolutely love the pace and I hope they continue with this momentum! If they do, nothing can stop Qubool Hai from regaining top spot on Zee again!
Yes,how Tanveer plays SaHil is going to be interesting.If she wants to mislead Ahil into believing there is a relationship between R&S,what would she do?Remember,Billi's doctrine on relationship between a man& a woman?For her,it doesn't start from the hearts,it starts &ends at the hips.She taunted Zoya many times,before & after AsYA wedding.IMO, she might stage another humbistar between R&S,but fate/ Razia will intervene and it'll be the real deal between SaHil.And once that happens,there won't be any going back for Sanam. She will be the one who'll have the remote to their room & she won't let any stray kitten or cat to come into it.She's cleanliness freak Asad's daughter.😆
This is what is going on in my head,God knows what GK has in mind!😃

Edited by simran_singh_24 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Now I never thought of it that way, but yes, Aahil is like Othello. Now let me stalk this thread after which I might come back to put in my 2 cents :D

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