Boli.....Boli...aaj Pseudo feminist boli - Page 8

Originally posted by: rendezvousvin

Truly said...

Originally posted by: sheilasandhu

Ok darlings ...listen up..

Aap ka koi be kaam muqqamal nahi hosakta without a MANNN.🤣

Please don'start a debate before heman is onboard ok Meanwhile have fun...😉

Originally posted by: starsinmyeyes

Heya Anu🤗...Zoya maybe did the right thing...but her dialogues were a total off for me...see...whatever Mohabbat ki jeet was shoved down our throat, sabse awwal baat, RaDil or AsYa ka case bahut alag hai...17 saal aur 17 din mein zameen aasman ka fark hota hai...she may not know what happened but she sure as hell is aware that the 17 odd years were a bad time for Khan family...secondly...Asad jab Zoe ko lene aaya toh even Ayaan wanted that...Asad did not do something that destroyed lives...it saved them...4 lives were back to normal again...

And u know I am ancient...I think marriage is very overrated but once u get into it you should try to maintain it's sanctity even if u cannot uphold the bond...Rashid chahe toh Shireen ko chhod de...but he has no right to insult both these women by putting them through all this...

She had to give a decent farewell...I was loving their conversation until she spouted..kya hua agar aap married nahi ho unse...I lost the conversation right there...it is adultery...I know the shot was put in so that the no divorce reveal can happen at both places...but that dialogue wiped out the entire conversation for me...someone would argue that AsYa stay together too...but Zoe has not moved in with Asad in the capacity of his other half...and they never considered ZoYaan...not even Ayaan did that..

But here...Dilshaad talks about moving in with her shauhar...who until she told the truth was assumed to be a paraya mard...and still it was being encouraged despite knowing that she will be razing the home of another woman..who is Rashid's wife...

Originally posted by: nautanki_anu

Main aagayi 😆. Sorry was low on battery. I liked ur reply n then started typing after liking Rivs post and then blackout ho gaya 😆.

Agreed that the 2 cases of Radil and AsYa are different and I'm not even comparing 17 days of pain and separation to 17 years. And what Rashid did was totally different from what Asad and Ayaan did. Zoya does understand the pain that Khan family went thru very well in these 17 years n I said that in my earlier post.

I'm just talking abt yesterday's scene and Dilshad already having made her decision. She dint ask anybody as to what she shd do. She just met Rashid a couple of times and decided that she will stay with him. Bas. Aage ka peechhe ka kuchh nahin socha. Love is truly blind in her case where she decided to leave her 17 saal ka gharaunda made with her just like that even though she feels bad abt it. She dint ask Asad and Zoe what decision she shd take or if it's the right decision. She dint even think of Shireen and the kids and the pain she herself and her kids went thru. Rashid wants me, I'm gonna go is the policy she followed.

@ bold. This dialogue also threw me a lil off balance as I was under the impression that it is very clear to all and the audience that Radil were not divorced and Rashid merely left Dilshad and got married to Shireen.

Maybe the ta umra dialogue is only for Zoya, Shru. "Nikaah mere liye ta umra ka vaada hai. Saasumaa, aap aur aapke shauhar aur unki doosri biwi chahe kuchh bhi kare" 😆.

We can't really get into so many details of characterisation and if a particular dialogue goes with the character and it's beliefs in Hindi serials sometimes Shru 😆. The situation was so beautifully portrayed even though that dialogue coming out of Zoe's mouth was a lil off, that I ruled it out and it dint ruin the moment for me at all.

Originally posted by: VashH

@ starsinmyeyes
Good points .
I have a feeling it's going to be a heavy debate
Can't join in now . It's 1.30 am I will say goodnight and u all enjoy the rest of your day !! 😉

Originally posted by: Oldestfan

Phew, what an unholy mess!

Just as I suspected and claimed many times in the past, Rashid and Dilshad are not divorced. Razia continues to get love letters! The botoxed and comatose visage of Badi Bi hides a busy mind working out the menu for Dilus rasoi ka Rrasm revisited!

Toh kya hua ki aap ka aur unka kaanooni rishta nahi hain? Dil ki raah kabhi buri nahi hoti! Ek baar aap unke biwi the!

And folks, there is loads more where that came from!

In science and engineering, where a lot of you ladies excel I am sure, there is a phenomenon called force fit. Where you force fit everything you see and observe to suit your main trend, or theory. That is what Zoya does in life. The outlier of Rashid having a second wife? Ignore it! The outlier of him living with the siddiquis? Ignore it! You must have thought about that na, phuphti? Just do it. I will manage Mr. Khan. Your heart is the surefire, tamper proof, rock solid, flawless decision maker phuphi! Judt like mine! Rashid loves you phuphi! Just las Mr. Khan does me! Dont worry about Shireen! Mr. Khan has escaped Phuphi, because he does not understand your pain, not because he will not be able to see you cry as you go, and he would rather disappear for a while while you garner your strength to stand by your current chioce. What was that you said Phuphi? That final telltale remark about Rashid needing you now more than the rest? I will ignore that. Phuphi, because that does not fit in with my beautiful theory and experience of my heart. I will also ignore that in the short span of ten days and eleven nights, I had forgotten my way and purpose in life as dadi bent me over a barrel and manipulated me completely. I am going to ignore the fact that I had become as complicit and as delusional as the other inmates, until your son came and with his words toeveryone cleared the mists from my head Rashid did the same phuphi, he came for you, amd said you are his biwi, see, he did not divorce you so he must be right! Lets ignore the fact that he was sick.

Dilshads grief and zoyas compassion were beautifully portrayed today as was Shireens helplessness and Ayaans desperation. The sordidness of the whole mess was revealed by the utter stupidity of the dialogues. Plays in contrast! Hmm!

Originally posted by: starsinmyeyes

One of her first dialogues on the show was...'Sab restrictions ladkiyon pe hi kyun hote hain...she did not claim...she projected herself as a feminist at each step...Mariam's marriage and Naj's eve teasing are examples, but of course they were constructive incidents. ...when it came to her, she became passive aggressive. .totally...so that's where the pseudo part comes in...she projects what she is not...

And yes..Asad should have stayed by to face it...but he has a weak moment too...the way Dilshaad did when she said yes to Rashid...their reactions are perfectly in line with how a human should react...IMO...

Also...Zoya of all people must understand that how the other woman feels...and the other woman has kids too...I cannot expect Shireen to be the better woman here at all...Zoya spoke so highly about marriage and now she suddenly says how does it matter if u are not married now? I mean good that they aren't divorced...but had they been..RaDil would have been committing adultery...the same or maybe worse than what AsYa were accused of committing...Mohabbat ki jeet does not mean that they forget the basic roots...and here the writers are to blame...this situation is about the test of Dilshaad's character..not Asad's or anybody else's...it's her moment of examination and no one else can make it easy for her...if u ask me should she stay looking at the fact that Ayaan too walked out...hell no...she should come back knowing she has destroyed two families...something similar to what Shireen did...Dilshaad is the selfish one...rest everyone...Zoe included are only reacting to her...

My only point here is that when a man commits a mistake..it is as forgivable as when a woman commits it...so if Asad walking away is a sign of weak character...Dilshaad giving in to a man like Rashid is even worse than weak...and saying that they never had self respect does not make them a victim...it is her and Rashid's fault...and Asad and Zoya and Ayaan are their children..not their parents...when such a situation arises...it's more on the parents than on the child to rise upto it...isliye woh maa-baap hote hain...aur tajurbe mein bahut bade hote hain...badappan badon ko hi dikhana padta hai...

P.S: Always a pleasure debating with u guys..me will be a little on and off today..so excuse my delayed replies please😳

Originally posted by: sheilasandhu

How did you get so smart darling.😉😉

And being the older generation is rather a huge responsibility. We set the examples, we lay the path and we create the unity. Unfortunately on QH right not it is being shown that even grown ups can be stupid, selfish, idiotic and are capable of making worse mistakes than the younger generation. Believe me there are adults of such nature that exist on this earth ...