Sorry state of affairs

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Okay am still not over yesterday's epi and don even intend to discuss this crap..But i really am curious about a few things😆 Why is there so much regressiveness shown on Indian Telly? Its not just about this show to be honest..There is another show which i shall not name where the female lead is beaten up by her hubby and he also forces alcohol down her throat..Yet, instead of dumping his ass, she gives lectures about reforming the guy and having poora bharosa on her ability to do so😆 Is this the right thing to show to the society? I understand we like drama but drama at what cost? Does regressiveness and commodification of women sell on TV? Are we underestimating the intelligence of the TRP audience? Or is Gul spot on when she says high class realism doesn't sell? Would people reject a female lead who has the ability to stand up for herself? Would people reject a male lead who does not sacrifice for all and sundry? What stops them giving us a strong female lead with self-respect? Aren't people bored of seeing self-sacrificing leads in every show?😆 The worse part is its women like Gul and Ekta who dish out such regressive crap to sell their show..I really am curious to know if people actually enjoy watching such stuff😕 Am not gonna blame them here cos shows like Rishta.com which deserve to do well fail to grab eyeballs but the ones which thrive on kitchen politics and regressive drama do well😆 Do we like watching the female lead cry 24/7 and have no sense of self-preservation?😕 Do we get cheat thrills out of watching the male lead be all abusive and violent with the female lead? Recently, this movie called Grand Masti which is an adult comedy surprised everyone by doing exceedingly well and i realized that sex sells and there are no two ways about it..And am not gonna be judgmental about that here😆 So i do wanna know if regressive drama sells and Gul or Ekta for that matter are just giving what people want to see..Or do they just assume that it sells and keep dishing out such crap? Are they just trying to be on the safer side and refuse to experiment?😆 I really am confused here..You have shows which just stick to showing normal day to day problems with a tinge of saas-bahu drama and they actually do exceedingly well..It seems boring and inconsequential but its obvious people love that show..So why resort to such crass melodrama to gain TRPs?😕 The last time i was this disgusted with a TV show was when the male lead dropped the female lead off the first floor and even worse made her sleep outside on their first night & that was actually supposed to be angsty and romantic😕 Am sorry but its impossible for me to tolerate so much regressiveness in the name of drama..Such blatant commodification of women? How low can you stoop for TRPs? Please don make this an argument about ZoYaan or Asad cos its not about them..Am not talking about the story or whether they were in character..Its a silly fictional show at the end of the day..But am appalled that they think its ok to show such stuff..Barter system and loaning of a woman for a month's time? Really? You gotta be kidding me🥱 This is such a sick way to glorify your leads man..But yeah, am not really interested in discussing the show here..I just wanna know whether the TRP audience in reality enjoy such crass drama..And trust me, no amount of good acting can cover up for such outrageous drama..They can have Leo and Kate play the leads for all i care and it'l still be impossible for me to digest this crap😆
Oh and most of these shows make it seem like marriage is the be all and end all of life.Why is it that none of the female leads work after marriage? All they do is sacrifice and be the Agony aunt to all and sundry..And not to mention, they are treated like a doormat and they just shut up & swallow it all..After so much talk about feminism and women's rights, we enjoy watching such stuff? I don expect Gul or Ekta to give me a Suits or Grey's Anatomy😆 But am just appalled that they resort to such sick glorification of the women in their show😆

Am not sure if am making sense here but its just that am still so disgusted with what was shown yesterday..Please don make this into a debate on ZoYaan..I don care now cos all the characters are idiots and i don feel sorry for anyone..AT ALL😆

P.S.There was a crossover epi of QH with another show where the male lead just randomly decided to get the female lead married to a guy he met in that marriage around five minutes back😆 That day, i was proud of QH cos despite all the humbistar crap, there was still some sanity in the show and the female lead was still treated as a woman and not a commodity..But after yesterday's epi, i realized that it was just a classic case of pot calling the kettle black cos all the soaps are the same at the end of the day😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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brilliant post ranji and much needed 👏
no one from general audience give two hoots about acting...😆they even don't know the real names of actors..😆. if actors are experienced they will call them from their old famous onscreen name max.😆
people love drama thats true but i feel makers should provide some decent drama so that audience can have option to see and compare what is disgusting drama and whats is decent drama...

some years back when ekta was ruling all channels with her shows ...all were almost same...multiple marriages,plastic surgeries,double roles,super powerful vamps,man who just come onscreen for dinning and standing in living room.,leads and even maids decked up in designer sareee and jwels 😆

people watched it and loved it because for them it was new thing to watch after some simple and sober serials like bhai dekh,ham log,chhoti si aasha,koshish ek aasha,chudiya etc...

and one of the reason was every channel was serving same kind of shows so audience had no option and they needed something for entertainment

but time changed...new era came where theme was saas bahu but show were with sanity...atleast lil bit...
right now when we see top shows..they might be regressive they might feel lil boring but yet with some sanity...it DABH,TKMUC,PKD,YRKKH...where there is no such strong plot line not such great actors ...but still they are far better than rest of shows and thats the reason they are doing well...

i am not saying these shows are not regressive or perfect...they have also lots of flaws...but i mean to say when you serve good and sane storyline let it be weak along with drama..audience accept it...audience got over multiple marriages and loved how one marriage works against all odds...
though i understand that makers do everything on safer side as they are the ones who are putting their money and efforts in show and they don't want to experiment ...but you will not serve good things to your audience how audience will come to know what is good...

people got over ekta's shows because some other shows served something better...so audience needs to have option to compare and understand whats good drama and whats disgusting...

and audience also needs to be clear on their front ... and i feel satisfied when audience reject cheapness in the name of drama..audience rejected PV..
tell makers that you want some progressive ness in your shows be it about female lead,or anything else,,,,tell them drama at the cost of cheapness is not acceptable...

and if its acceptable to audience then i can not help it ...because i am sure in the name of drama these family audience do not go to c grade or d grade or adult movies with all...so if they can not see something cheap just for 3 hours why they watch it for years
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Posted: 11 years ago
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can i tell the name?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Are you talking about Kumud Sundari by any chance? 😆

I don't watch that show but I have seen her giving lectures while switching channels 😆

#Saraswatichandra Rocks! 😆

But I still can't watch it 😆
Edited by pinkflamingo - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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TRP audience has already shown what they are capable of...Gul Khan has read the market wrong...
Twists help the serial stay in the safe zone...neither at the top..nor hitting rock bottom...cheap shit can sell only for a while and then everyone realizes that it is cheap...Violence is romanticized...and it is very very low to do that...there is no pushing and pulling waala love and pinning to the walls and arm twisting in real life...

I am worried that violence gives a kick to this generation of viewers...

Rest..u said it all babes👏
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nope you cant😡😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: pinkflamingo


Are you talking about Kumud Sundari by any chance? 😆

I don't watch that show but I have seen her giving lectures while switching channels 😆

#Saraswatichandra Rocks! 😆

But I still can't watch it 😆

Dude don get my post closed😡😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Great post! And your questions make complete sense. I am wondering the same. Is showing such nonsense on the name of drama acceptable? Why can't we move forward and show something practical and good for a change. I strongly believe that people a large amount of people are influenced in some way by what they watch on tv. Isn't it the responsibility of these makers to send a good social message across?
Although I am not a TRP contributor, I am disgusted to see the regressive nature of these shows. Sick is an understatement. They start off well and then go back to Tulsi Parvati mode

I will add that i am glad that TRP's have shown what the audience wants. Despite the makers wanting to gain attention and TRP's they did not get them. Goes to show where the makers should draw the line.
Edited by niki_12 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Beautiful post. Hats off to you.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rogerrocks

Dude don get my post closed😡😆


Haha, I don't intend to 😆

But on a serious note, you are absolutely right. The regressiveness shown on Indian Telly hits a new low every month. Gone are the days when EK used to serve extra marital affairs with a topping of divorce, multiple kids from multiple wives and people coming back from death. GUL has taken Indian telly a step ahead and has redefined Sadism. She has mocked Marriage, destiny, karma, God and everything possible on this show...

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