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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: -KSGsmitten-

Great analysis!


I think you're right about AsYa's scene although I actually liked it.

IMO, what is missing in that scene is Zoya's empathy for Asad and her understanding of his childhood troubles.

When the teacher mentioned that Asad dressed as a school boy for a fancy dress, even his expressions suggested the reason. The comic element of this scene ended for me there.

I started to dislike the teacher for mocking him like that and judging him for his actions. Asad's behavior was more a result of the circumstances he was in rather than his inherent nature.

Asad didn't wear a fancy dress because his mother couldn't afford one. He was being akdu because of what he was going through. He didn't have any friends, he was that socially awkward. He had a frog for a pet because of his obsessive compulsive disorder.

No child would be like that unless there's a problem.

We could see that and even Asad's expressions showed that. Zoya however, displayed no empathy or understanding of Little Asad's behavior. Her expressions portray just that she found it weird. And then, she smiled.

It was reestablished that Zoya is yet to mature as a person which is exactly why Ghafoor and Zainab's revelation is important.

I think that their conversation after this scene (if they have any) can make up for what we found missing.

P.S. I can now understand why Asad had that blind faith in Tanveer.


Absolutely true. I have a neighbor who lost her mother to 10 and without a father at 14. Relatives good care of her, they loved, nurtured, nothing missing, but ...
When she comes to visit, I asked wanted to eat lunch, the answer is "do not care", when you ask if she wants to walk, the answer is "I do not care", if you like, this, that, the answer is always the same, the pronounced tone that can to kill.
I remember the scene when Assad drove past the orphanage. He was suffering, he was tired, he was "I do not care", but only for a moment, looked back, realized that the crowd gathered around the girl and was ready to go, until he saw Zoya. Then he got out of the car.Then I wondered why not he impulsively rushed to help. I understand why a long time ago :)))
He understands Zoya :))

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Hey Kausar

Great to read a post from u after so long ... u should make them more often😃

ASYA - I love how Asad tries to revert back to his old arku ...woh actually ways but Zoya does not let him do so - remember earlier Asad has thought Zoya was a drug junkie and had told Dilshad to talk to her appi and take her to a psychiatrist and today again he mentioned if she was on drugs today 🤣and Zoya as usual jumping to her own conclusions - Loved her new name CHUPE RASTAM AHMED KHAN for Asad and then calling him cute while he blushed ...

As for the teacher scene I loved it when Asad is scared to disturb the teacher but Zoya does not let him back out, how he automatically holds Zoyas hands - showing her off and when the teacher hugs him he is not comfortable and looks at Zoya and she smiles reassuringly LOVE IT all -

But the best thing for me was how the CVs tried to give us a glimpse of Asad and his childhood. We see that Asad always believed in doing the right thing (he went and tattle-tailed on all his classmates at the cost of not having friends). His only friend was a frog - small animal and no maintenance for all the frog eats is flies and do not leave a mess or shed. He probably choose to dress as a school boy for he knew his mother could not afford to buy him clothes for fancy dress. My heart went out to the serious, lonely 10 yr old Asad who had seen more than his share of sorrows so early in life and felt the emotions soo deeply that he was mistaken as arku even as a boy - he deserves someone bubbly and who with her craziness can make him smile despite himself - i seriously hope for Asads sake that ASYA bond even if there is a separation does not break for he will not be able to bear it.

However saying the above i do get what you are trying to say - Zoya could have showed more empathy, love and support towards Asad and showed the teacher how proud she is of the jem of the person she is marrying and would not change a single thing about him rather than making him the butt of the joke as she knows the root cause of why Asad was the way he was and how deeply he actually feels - at the end of the scene we did not get the aww he now has Zoya forever feeling - the dialogue or actors did not emote that and IMO its cause judai is on its way - the next separation will make Zoya grow up (read fathers truth and her factory related nightmares) For Zoya the previous separation was the shock of betrayal of love and trust in Asad but the next one will make her realize Asads true worth the way Asad realized Zoyas significance in his life during their separation.

PS: a very belated Eid mubarak - sorry have not been able to reply to PMs
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Posted: 12 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: tvbug2011

Lovely post, Kaussar.😊 Enjoyed your review and analysis. The teacher scene reminded me a teensy bit of the island scene in An Affair to Remember. I wonder where the CVs are going with it.

Waiting for the confrontation betn the Khan parivars. Already feel sorry for the sisters, but not for Imran, as I expect Imran won't get either girl just yet. It'll be good to see him sweat a bit.

thanks Dear.. i haven't seen An affair to remember.. Is it good?
I wish imran doesn't get either of them .. he needs to realize his mistakes and at least ask forgivness from Nikhat.. i feel he kind of led Nikhat all these days by his silence.. so yea it will be good to see him sweat first.😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: starsinmyeyes


Now it's not her comic side...they are setting it up for a separation...there might come a time when she may hurt Asad so bad that it will be irreparable...and that is when she will realize in the true sense as to what he means to her...these days Zoya leaves a lot to be desired in all AsYa scenes...if u have noticed..the CVs are deliberately doing this

i guess you are right.. These days the way Zoya's feelings are portrayed is very different from when Tanveer was around and she declared her love at the cliff and vowed to get him back.. Zoya herself hides her emotions behind smiles and laughter and jokes.. thats her nature.. but in emotional scenes when both of them are alone and Asad is portraying his emotions and Zoya jokes it becomes awkward at times.It should be mutual.. So probably like you said they are heading for a separation and Zo will realize his worth then.. could be because Zo realized her love also much later than Asad.😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: KhanJi11

Good and informative article.
Now it is time to Ayan prove his love for Humeira, and must first be serious
Zoya pulls out all the unpleasant experiences of Asad life and turns them into positive, of solid Asada turns it into a laid back.
Hmm Haseen spilled her poison ... I think that, in the end it will be poisoned herself from him.😈

thanks.😃
Yea its time for Ayaan to prove his love.. lets see what he does.. Haseena is a greedy person for whom money and how much she can squeeze from others is the most important thing.. but i don't think she is evil like tanveer and Raziya and can go to that extent..lets see.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: -KSGsmitten-

Great analysis!


I think you're right about AsYa's scene although I actually liked it.

IMO, what is missing in that scene is Zoya's empathy for Asad and her understanding of his childhood troubles.

Yea as others have also pointed out Zoya's empathy was lacking and perhaps that was what was missing from the scene.Zoya appeared too full of herself because only her self praise part was shown.. that was cute to an extent but if it was shown along with her empathy scene would have been more emotional and well executed and her antics in between could have been appreciated more as well.

When the teacher mentioned that Asad dressed as a school boy for a fancy dress, even his expressions suggested the reason. The comic element of this scene ended for me there. Agree

I started to dislike the teacher for mocking him like that and judging him for his actions. Asad's behavior was more a result of the circumstances he was in rather than his inherent nature. Teacher had misunderstood his behaviour because she didn't know the reason behind it.

Asad didn't wear a fancy dress because his mother couldn't afford one. He was being akdu because of what he was going through. He didn't have any friends, he was that socially awkward. He had a frog for a pet because of his obsessive compulsive disorder.

No child would be like that unless there's a problem.

exactly.. And this part should have been highlighted better with some words from Zoya telling how Asad is now and that she understands why he must have been like that earlier and the teacher also would have understood it at least now and the audience also would have perceived it better.

We could see that and even Asad's expressions showed that. Zoya however, displayed no empathy or understanding of Little Asad's behavior. Her expressions portray just that she found it weird. And then, she smiled.. exactly.. that indeed spoilt a beautiful scene.

It was reestablished that Zoya is yet to mature as a person which is exactly why Ghafoor and Zainab's revelation is important.
Zoya is actually a very impulsive person and doesn't take things too seriously but at the same time i have always found her being able to connect with peoples emotions and act mature also when needed.. remember how easily she used to percept dilshad's moods.. thats why i find it strange when she takes Asads emotions so lightly.. i hope Cvs doesn't butcher her character for the sake of future tracks.

I think that their conversation after this scene (if they have any) can make up for what we found missing.

P.S. I can now understand why Asad had that blind faith in Tanveer.😊

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Nice analysis.
I expected more of the teacher scene as well - although I enjoyed it very much - somehow it felt like a filler, something the CVs threw in to keep AsYa fans happy.
Whilst i am looking forward to the drama unfold in Battle of the Brothers, I'm actually more excited about AyRa. Loved that Ayaan at last accepted how he felt about Humeira - can't wait to watch how he convinces Humeira of it!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Marija40


Great post

The teacher is strict person, her name is Ms. Rodriguez and she is a Catholic. Even when she wakes up carefully watching (not only because of poor vision) and frowns it. The prototype of the old-time lecturers. Hence the lack of emotion in the beginning.
As for the latter part of the conversation, maybe missing Zoya's support like "he is change", a little long look, but as the starsinmyeyes said, Zoya still do not realize how is happy. She loves him, respected, have a family what she wanted, but just because she always want to forget the bad, is not aware that Asad not only her protector, but the best thing that happened to her in life. Only one is talking about the deeper reasons why love him, and that's when she found out that Tanveer pregnant and while she thought it was Assad father.
And do not forget Assad teased her. Just back him :))) And forced Assad to remember their "trauma" :))
Personally I liked the scene, but of course I respect your attitude on that is incomplete.



yea Zoya perhaps needs a reality check.. she perhaps does not yet realize how much she has come to mean to Asad and needs to understand him better.. that reality check perhaps will happen if they get separated once again..😃
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: CanadianChik

Hey Kausar


Great to read a post from u after so long ... u should make them more often😃

Hi Cara.. great to hear from you.

ASYA - I love how Asad tries to revert back to his old arku ...woh actually ways but Zoya does not let him do so - remember earlier Asad has thought Zoya was a drug junkie and had told Dilshad to talk to her appi and take her to a psychiatrist and today again he mentioned if she was on drugs today 🤣and Zoya as usual jumping to her own conclusions - Loved her new name CHUPE RASTAM AHMED KHAN for Asad and then calling him cute while he blushed ... yea those parts were cute and they were in their element.. i also enjoyed it

As for the teacher scene I loved it when Asad is scared to disturb the teacher but Zoya does not let him back out, how he automatically holds Zoyas hands - showing her off and when the teacher hugs him he is not comfortable and looks at Zoya and she smiles reassuringly LOVE IT all - Agree these little touches were nice

But the best thing for me was how the CVs tried to give us a glimpse of Asad and his childhood. We see that Asad always believed in doing the right thing (he went and tattle-tailed on all his classmates at the cost of not having friends). His only friend was a frog - small animal and no maintenance for all the frog eats is flies and do not leave a mess or shed. He probably choose to dress as a school boy for he knew his mother could not afford to buy him clothes for fancy dress. My heart went out to the serious, lonely 10 yr old Asad who had seen more than his share of sorrows so early in life and felt the emotions soo deeply that he was mistaken as arku even as a boy - yea this is exactly the reasons why Asad must have behaved that way.. love how you have analyzed why he must have had a frog as a friend and pet.. i don't mind Zo's initial teasing when teacher said she used to call him Akdu as well. but later perhaps when they were holding hands Zo could have said a few words like how she appreciates the kind of person Asad is today..just a few few extra words and emotions in between would have taken the scene to a new level.
he deserves someone bubbly and who with her craziness can make him smile despite himself - i seriously hope for Asads sake that ASYA bond even if there is a separation does not break for he will not be able to bear it. yea it will definitely shatter him.. he resisted it so much earlier but Zoya has come to mean to him so much now.

However saying the above i do get what you are trying to say - Zoya could have showed more empathy, love and support towards Asad and showed the teacher how proud she is of the jem of the person she is marrying and would not change a single thing about him rather than making him the butt of the joke as she knows the root cause of why Asad was the way he was and how deeply he actually feels - at the end of the scene we did not get the aww he now has Zoya forever feeling - exactly..his was missing..the dialogue or actors did not emote that and IMO its cause judai is on its way - the next separation will make Zoya grow up (read fathers truth and her factory related nightmares) For Zoya the previous separation was the shock of betrayal of love and trust in Asad but the next one will make her realize Asads true worth the way Asad realized Zoyas significance in his life during their separation..Agree. this maybe the reason..although i don't like the idea of another separation, its perhaps on the way as you all are saying and very much needed as well.

PS: a very belated Eid mubarak - sorry have not been able to reply to PMs..no worries.. EID Mubarik once again.😊

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Posted: 12 years ago
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thanks Dear.😃

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