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Posted: 12 years ago
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It depends on the actual scenario.

If Asad was in fact totally out of it, and he was assualted then there wouldn't even be anything to forgive. It's not his fault. It's like asking a man if he would forgive his wife if she got raped, would he look at her the same, would he love her the same? Why not? What would she have done wrong? Of course there will be pain, a lot of pain, for both the assaulted person and their partner, but neither would be to blame, so I don't see why things should change in this scenario.

If however the person willingly slept with another person, that would be different. That would simply be cheating and I don't think anyone ever can say they'd be the same with the cheating partner. I think it would be impossible. You can still love the person, want to be with them, but feel exactly the same? I doubt it. There would be no trust.

It could also be the case that Asad was drugged but was conscious and was in control of his body, and he slept with Tanveer. In this case also, I would think of it as cheating as he would have control. This would be the same as the second scenario.

So I guess my basic point is it depends on whether the person was in control of their body or not, and if they wanted to do something or not. Depending on the circumstances the answers would be different.

Plus I don't think in relationships the words of someone like Tanveer should matter to anyone. If other people's thoughts and words are more important to you than the person you love, then you can't love them that much. But again, it could depend on the situation. If Asad cheated on Zoya, it would play on her mind, if Asad didn't then I don't think her words should hold any importance.

Anyway how is it possible for a man to be so drugged he falls unconscious by the looks of it, yet he can do the 'deed'? It's impossible. Anything that happens to him without his control, is an assault, and I hope they point this out.


Edited by butterfly15.. - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#12
I will slap him to begin with the fact that The dude was late for his own marriage...God, I have never seen/heard of someone who have done that...Only Guls male leads do that...First Arnav or now Asad...I mean What the...?? 😲

And then him coming with Tanu...why...?? I thought that groom has to come with someone from FAMILY...I would have prefered him coming alone then a female friend of his...Who is very chipku...hugging and closing the buttons of his sherwani...😲 and he should have understood from the start ke his Bechari choti si Tanu ki neeat neek nahi...God why men dont have this 6th sense that women have when they are anywhere near someone creep...??

And then after seeing That...I would have beaten Tanveer blue and black...Yes, yes I know I am very violent and aggressive...But that is more better then cry like a abla-nari...Not that something like that wont have hurt me and make me cry...But I think hurt would have trasformed in pure rage when I would have seen someone like Tanveeer smirk at me...also Zoya should do that...And I dont think Asad was in conditions to stop her from beating Tanveer...😆


If I like Zoya would have thought that they have done "IT":-

I have a very bad habit that I cant forget and I cant forgive...So I dont know about forgiving part...Maybe this is because I have never been in love or maybe because I am not in one of those person who can bear everything for the sake of their love for someone...I think when I am hurt I cant see pass that...And I dont want to be one of those people who say that the have forgiven But whenever there is a fight the first thing they say is "you are who have done that...and this and that" or someone who in some way or other they make that person feel bad about what happened...even after years and years and all the time they spent together they still cant forgive nor forget what heppened but they are still together...There are not logic in hurting yourself and that person if you say you have forgiven then why make that person feel bad for what happened...??


As everytime Zoya have to prove her that she didnt do something wrong...this time Zoya will ask him the samething...

And about Tanveer...and her saying "you are going to have My leftovers"...God, If Zoya beats her like I would have done, she wont even able to talk/stand/sit/live for months...let alone smirk and say something like that...lol


As we know that Asad was drugged, so there is no way Zoya or any of us can blame him...his only blame was that he believed that Tanveer was his friend and he was not able to see evilness of that Bili...

So even when Zoya will get to know the fact that he was dragged and sexually abused, she will not let That bili see the light of a new day...Who said only a man can fight and kill to someone who did that kind of deed...If a woman sexually abuse a man also A woman can fight and kill her for doing that to her man...

Edited by A.Hajnal - 12 years ago
BlahBytes thumbnail
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Posted: 12 years ago
#13
Nice post.
While I agree with you on a generic level, my response would be different 😃. I am far too practical a person. And that is maybe because a sense of logic has been foremost in all my decisions from when I started making my decisions which was a long long time ago and I have had to make quite a few life-altering decisions! I always take a step back before reacting to issues so I would question everything. I would not overlook it, I would rather question the situation. Would I still believe in Asad? Yes. Would I be able to let go of it later? Yes. Would I want to throttle him for not believing Zoya's concerns regarding Tanveer? Absolutely!
I know a majority of people would be in favor of what you have put forth because most people have immediate impulsive reactions and are emotional in nature which is perfectly fine!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Nice discussion post 😊

If I was Zoya, I would definitely be confused and my first reaction would definitely be anger ... the way Tanveer has set it up makes it look like Asad actually cheated. I would probably run away and would want to be left alone for a few days.

I would be able to overlook the fact that Asad got raped/sexually assaulted, the poor guy got victimized, you can't blame him for that ... it could happen to anyone.

But if I was Zoya, I think it would be hard for me to forgive Asad for blindly trusting Tanveer despite the multiple times Zoya tried to expose her. I get Tanveer is his "childhood friend" but it baffles me how they lost touch for so many years yet Asad still cares so much for that inhumane bitch 🤢
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: honey672

If I was zoya and knowing what I know about Tanveer I would walk in slap her twice and tell her sorry bitch your cheap trick is not going to work.

Drag Asad out of there and tell him , we are not talking about this and it is between me and that bitch and he should stay out of it.
Since I am Zoya farooqui and I can do anything I will have all the proof I need but will not share it.
instead I will be a dramabaaz and go to that place everyone is talking about, yeah that holy place.
just so that both Asad and Tanu the bitch can sweat it for a couple of days wondering what the hell I am up to.
Theni will expose that smelly cat for the skunk she is!
Violla!
thank you! thank You!

how i wish you were part of the CV's 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: butterfly15..

It depends on the actual scenario.

If Asad was in fact totally out of it, and he was assualted then there wouldn't even be anything to forgive. It's not his fault. It's like asking a man if he would forgive his wife if she got raped, would he look at her the same, would he love her the same? Why not? What would she have done wrong? Of course there will be pain, a lot of pain, for both the assaulted person and their partner, but neither would be to blame, so I don't see why things should change in this scenario.
If however the person willingly slept with another person, that would be different. That would simply be cheating and I don't think anyone ever can say they'd be the same with the cheating partner. I think it would be impossible. You can still love the person, want to be with them, but feel exactly the same? I doubt it. There would be no trust.

It could also be the case that Asad was drugged but was conscious and was in control of his body, and he slept with Tanveer. In this case also, I would think of it as cheating as he would have control. This would be the same as the second scenario.

So I guess my basic point is it depends on whether the person was in control of their body or not, and if they wanted to do something or not. Depending on the circumstances the answers would be different.

Plus I don't think in relationships the words of someone like Tanveer should matter to anyone. If other people's thoughts and words are more important to you than the person you love, then you can't love them that much. But again, it could depend on the situation. If Asad cheated on Zoya, it would play on her mind, if Asad didn't then I don't think her words should hold any importance.

Anyway how is it possible for a man to be so drugged he falls unconscious by the looks of it, yet he can do the 'deed'? It's impossible. Anything that happens to him without his control, is an assault, and I hope they point this out.

Yes absoulutley. I think the word 'forgive' I used wasn't the right one if Asad didn't have control over his body since he was drugged. We don't know what exactly happened yet so I'm just going by what was shown today.
Somehow I feel that Asad kind of let go of his self control because when Tanveer was talking to him and told him that they (Zoya and Asad) were already married. He was thinking that he was hearing/talking to Zoya and therefore didn't react as he normally would had he seen Tanveer's face. Is it still sexual assault (as per what we've seen) yes absoulutely as Asad was cheated.
I think at the initial stage of what Zoya will see tomorrow, Tanveer's words will probably impact Zoya but that doesn't mean that she doesn't love him. I think once she takes a breather and thinks about it then the logic will kick in.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: BlahBytes

Nice post.

While I agree with you on a generic level, my response would be different 😃. I am far too practical a person. And that is maybe because a sense of logic has been foremost in all my decisions from when I started making my decisions which was a long long time ago and I have had to make quite a few life-altering decisions! I always take a step back before reacting to issues so I would question everything. I would not overlook it, I would rather question the situation. Would I still believe in Asad? Yes. Would I be able to let go of it later? Yes. Would I want to throttle him for not believing Zoya's concerns regarding Tanveer? Absolutely!
I know a majority of people would be in favor of what you have put forth because most people have immediate impulsive reactions and are emotional in nature which is perfectly fine!

I think Zoya's reaction is an accumulation of Asad not beleving her, insulting/disprespecting her, and this will be the last straw and she'll explode since she's been quite for a long time so this just threw her over the edge
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Hi I'm new to this forum and thought would like to share my 2 cents worth.
If i were Zoya I'd probably think - you b+++++++!, you and the b**** deserve each other and storm out of their like a drama queen!
Thankfully, Zoya is a whole lot smarter.
I would like to believe she has the presence of mind to remember Tanveer's (can't bring myself to call her Tanu, which sounds too sickly cute) extent of evilness and her threat, as well as how much Asad has shown his love (with his intense eyes) & compassion first with her scar then with her burnt hands and her heartfelt confession of resolve on the balcony and above it all how much she loves and respects Dilshad to allow her to fulfill her vow.
I truly hope, Zoya gets Asad out of there and back to the wedding hall, completes the Nikah so Dilshad can stand proud and not to forget Zoya's sister, then turns to Asad and says we need to sort this out once and for all, let's go seek blessings in Ajmer then you can tell me what actually happened and whilst we're sorting that out it may be best to also deal with your trust in me and your inability to tell me simply how you feel about me.
I can only hope...
Edited by shanry - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: MannieXO

Nice discussion post 😊


If I was Zoya, I would definitely be confused and my first reaction would definitely be anger ... the way Tanveer has set it up makes it look like Asad actually cheated. I would probably run away and would want to be left alone for a few days.

I would be able to overlook the fact that Asad got raped/sexually assaulted, the poor guy got victimized, you can't blame him for that ... it could happen to anyone.

But if I was Zoya, I think it would be hard for me to forgive Asad for blindly trusting Tanveer despite the multiple times Zoya tried to expose her. I get Tanveer is his "childhood friend" but it baffles me how they lost touch for so many years yet Asad still cares so much for that inhumane bitch 🤢

I think Zoya's reaction is an accumulation of Asad not beleving her, his constant insulting nad dispespecting and lack of trust in her, and this will be the last straw for her since she's been quite for a long time
Somehow I feel that Asad kind of let go of himself because he thought Zoya was infront of him, not realizing it was Tanveer. Is it still sexual assault? Yes absoulutely
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I think I could give him the benefit of doubt...but I would probably rub in the fact that he didn't believe zoya when she warned him about billo...😉

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