The dynamics of Asad and Tanveer's relationship

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OK, so am really curious..Why is it so difficult for Indian soap writers to portray a platonic relationship between two individuals without any of them ever developing romantic feelings for the other? Every time a long lost friend or new character is introduced,it is a given that he/she will be turned into a love interest in a few weeks' time..Cant we have pure unadulterated friendship portrayed between the lead and another character belonging to the opposite sex? Now lets take QH for instance..Wouldn't it be awesome if Tanveer and Asad remain childhood friends who share a very close bond and understand eachother really well? Am sure Asad has no feelings for Tanveer but you cant really be sure about Tanveer atm..I for one would love to see Tanveer remain positive and serve as a catalyst for Asad and Zoya..The purpose of this track can actually be achieved even if they resort to this non-cliched route..Asad's uptight nature and denial combined with Zoya's jealousy, insecurity and inability to deal with her new found feelings is more than enough for her to misconstrue their relationship-which of course will jolt her out of her total obliviousness to her feelings for Asad..Is it really necessary to make Tanveer negative or force a romantic angle between the two? Its always weird that leads in most soaps are shown without friends..They are either busy bickering with their love interest or immersed in solving family problems..i for one am glad that they have introduced a friend for Asad cos however brooding and lonely you are, its almost impossible for a person not to have friends..Now it would be a refreshing change if they keep it at that and just let Zoya misinterpret things..This would actually make it a lil non-cliched and at the same time, purpose of the track would be served as well..

Btw, as i mentioned earlier, it would be far more impactful if Asad seeks Zoya and comes out of his denial on his own without making Tanveer negative..Now if Tanveer were to be made negative and subsequently Asad learns his lesson, wouldn't it seem like Asad chose Zoya merely because he saw Tanveer's true colours?Wouldn't that make Zoya look like a second choice and his love conditional?Don get me wrong, i firmly believe Asad is totally in love with Zoya and irrespective of what happens in the future, will never develop feelings for Tanveer or any other girl for that matter..But Asad is someone who thinks of marriage as a mere formality and doesn't belive that love is a necessity..So it is very much possible for the guy to marry Tanveer without having even an inkling of interest in her..Now what i don what is their marriage getting stopped at the last moment merely because Asad realised Tanveer is not what she seems to be..This would mean that if she was indeed the sweet girl, he would have gone ahead and married her and ruined his and Zoya's life in one stroke..So what i'd love to see is Asad realizing Zoya' worth on his own independent of Tanveer's character and understand that his stuck up ideologies are so not worth holding on to when faced with the prospect of losing Zoya..This would add so much more depth to his character and feelings for Zoya..😳
Am not sure whether am making sense here but i'd love to hear your views😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: rogerrocks

OK, so am really curious..Why is it so difficult for Indian soap writers to portray a platonic relationship between two individuals without any of them ever developing romantic feelings for the other? Every time a long lost friend or new character is introduced,it is a given that he/she will be turned into a love interest in a few weeks' time..Cant we have pure unadulterated friendship portrayed between the lead and another character belonging to the opposite sex? Now lets take QH for instance..Wouldn't it be awesome if Tanveer and Asad remain childhood friends who share a very close bond and understand eachother really well? Am sure Asad has no feelings for Tanveer but you cant really be sure about Tanveer atm..I for one would love to see Tanveer remain positive and serve as a catalyst for Asad and Zoya..The purpose of this track can actually be achieved even if they resort to this non-cliched route..Asad's uptight nature and denial combined with Zoya's jealousy, insecurity and inability to deal with her new found feelings is more than enough for her to misconstrue their relationship-which of course will jolt her out of her total obliviousness to her feelings for Asad..Is it really necessary to make Tanveer negative or force a romantic angle between the two? Its always weird that leads in most soaps are shown without friends..They are either busy bickering with their love interest or immersed in solving family problems..i for one am glad that they have introduced a friend for Asad cos however brooding and lonely you are, its almost impossible for a person not to have friends..Now it would be a refreshing change if they keep it at that and just let Zoya misinterpret things..This would actually make it a lil non-cliched and at the same time, purpose of the track would be served as well..


Btw, as i mentioned earlier, it would be far more impactful if Asad seeks Zoya and comes out of his denial on his own without making Tanveer negative..Now if Tanveer were to be made negative and subsequently Asad learns his lesson, wouldn't it seem like Asad chose Zoya merely because he saw Tanveer's true colours?Wouldn't that make Zoya look like a second choice and his love conditional?Don get me wrong, i firmly believe Asad is totally in love with Zoya and irrespective of what happens in the future, will never develop feelings for Tanveer or any other girl for that matter..But Asad is someone who thinks of marriage as a mere formality and doesn't belive that love is a necessity..So it is very much possible for the guy to marry Tanveer without having even an inkling of interest in her..Now what i don what is their marriage getting stopped at the last moment merely because Asad realised Tanveer is not what she seems to be..This would mean that if she was indeed the sweet girl, he would have gone ahead and married her and ruined his and Zoya's life in one stroke..So what i'd love to see is Asad realizing Zoya' worth on his own independent of Tanveer's character and understand that his stuck up ideologies are so not worth holding on to when faced with the prospect of losing Zoya..This would add so much more depth to his character and feelings for Zoya..😳
Am not sure whether am making sense here but i'd love to hear your views😊


The bolded is exactly how i feel!! I want Asad to recognize Zoya's worth without being betrayed or deceived by Tanveer. I want it to be clear that if indeed Tanveer is deceitful, it would only be known to Asad after he has realized how much he loves Zoya and wants to be with her and hence chooses to be with her.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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well said fully agree👏
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Asad is in conflict with his emotions for Zoya. While we see that he cares he refutes that by being over the top nasty sometimes so that needs to change. Once he can come to respect Zoya then we might see that change blossom within him.

Liked your post too :)
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I totally agree with you

I want Asad to make a concious decision on his own that he loves Zoya without either Tanveer turning negative and if she does, Asad should realize his love and worth of Zoya in his life before discovering Tanveer turning negative

I don't want Zoya to be second choice...coz if Asad discovers Tanveer's true colors and after that decides that Zoya is the one for him, she will be the second choice !!!!!

At this point of time I feel that Asad doesn't love Zoya...yes he's attracted to her as he himself said and ofcourse he cares for her and feels responsible for her...he said so many times before that Zoya is their responsibility and if something happens to her, what will they tell her Jiju...

Cause if you love someone you will not hurt that person again and again as wht Asad is doing. And Asad doesn't respect Zoya fully...he doesn't respect her way of thinking , her way of dressing and as long as that respect is not there, there can never be love...
Also when love was there, he would have never told her she doesn't deserve a mom and the next morning say sorry as if nothing happened
When love was there, he would not tell her that she is a misfit...not fit to be a wife or DIL or whatever...
When love was there , he would not call her stupid infront of someone else...
It is clear that Asad has a problem in accepting Zoya the way she is and trying to change someone accoording to your taste or belittling someone all the time is not love
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@Axiom-Completely agree..Asad gets flustered by Zoya and to hide his emotions, gets nasty and says the meanest of things to her..If you observe, Asad is well behaved and polite to almost every other character.Its just Zoya who brings the worst out of him and thats mainly because of his preconceived notions and stuck up ideologies..
@eshasrk-Its gonna be a long time before Asad respects Zoya as a person and consciously acknowledges his love for her..Am hoping they do full justice to the transformation
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Same here! I want Tanveer to be the positive character. And if they have to make her a negative character, I want Asad to chose Zoya before finding out that Tanveer is a wrong person. But it would be GREAT to watch Tanveer a positive character and stay positive and Asad picking Zoya even when his supposed Miss perfect wife material is around him.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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What you describe is ideal rogerrocks , but I don't know if the Cv's have the guts to do it 😕 If Tanveer remains positive and still Asad chooses zoya that would create more of a impact than the ghissa pitta track of tanveer turns evil and then Asad realized his mistake . Maybe the CV's will surprise us !!
P.S-Love your username ,absolutely love roger federer
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: rogerrocks

OK, so am really curious..Why is it so difficult for Indian soap writers to portray a platonic relationship between two individuals without any of them ever developing romantic feelings for the other? Every time a long lost friend or new character is introduced,it is a given that he/she will be turned into a love interest in a few weeks' time..Cant we have pure unadulterated friendship portrayed between the lead and another character belonging to the opposite sex? Now lets take QH for instance..Wouldn't it be awesome if Tanveer and Asad remain childhood friends who share a very close bond and understand eachother really well? Am sure Asad has no feelings for Tanveer but you cant really be sure about Tanveer atm..I for one would love to see Tanveer remain positive and serve as a catalyst for Asad and Zoya..The purpose of this track can actually be achieved even if they resort to this non-cliched route..Asad's uptight nature and denial combined with Zoya's jealousy, insecurity and inability to deal with her new found feelings is more than enough for her to misconstrue their relationship-which of course will jolt her out of her total obliviousness to her feelings for Asad..Is it really necessary to make Tanveer negative or force a romantic angle between the two? Its always weird that leads in most soaps are shown without friends..They are either busy bickering with their love interest or immersed in solving family problems..i for one am glad that they have introduced a friend for Asad cos however brooding and lonely you are, its almost impossible for a person not to have friends..Now it would be a refreshing change if they keep it at that and just let Zoya misinterpret things..This would actually make it a lil non-cliched and at the same time, purpose of the track would be served as well..


Btw, as i mentioned earlier, it would be far more impactful if Asad seeks Zoya and comes out of his denial on his own without making Tanveer negative..Now if Tanveer were to be made negative and subsequently Asad learns his lesson, wouldn't it seem like Asad chose Zoya merely because he saw Tanveer's true colours?Wouldn't that make Zoya look like a second choice and his love conditional?Don get me wrong, i firmly believe Asad is totally in love with Zoya and irrespective of what happens in the future, will never develop feelings for Tanveer or any other girl for that matter..But Asad is someone who thinks of marriage as a mere formality and doesn't belive that love is a necessity..So it is very much possible for the guy to marry Tanveer without having even an inkling of interest in her..Now what i don what is their marriage getting stopped at the last moment merely because Asad realised Tanveer is not what she seems to be..This would mean that if she was indeed the sweet girl, he would have gone ahead and married her and ruined his and Zoya's life in one stroke..So what i'd love to see is Asad realizing Zoya' worth on his own independent of Tanveer's character and understand that his stuck up ideologies are so not worth holding on to when faced with the prospect of losing Zoya..This would add so much more depth to his character and feelings for Zoya..😳
Am not sure whether am making sense here but i'd love to hear your views😊


Yes.
Would that the CVs and the PH wake up and smell this rose!

Alas, based on the premise on ZeeTv, it does not seem likely that it (@bold) will happen.
This would then paint Mr. Khan as shallow, narrow-minded, and indecisive... as in, he goes 'with the flow' of the world and does not think for himself.
So far he is prescribing to general society-held notions of the 'perfect' wife and DIL. He needs to break that mold and think for himself about what kind of woman would actually suit him.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: rogerrocks


Btw, as i mentioned earlier, it would be far more impactful if Asad seeks Zoya and comes out of his denial on his own without making Tanveer negative..Now if Tanveer were to be made negative and subsequently Asad learns his lesson, wouldn't it seem like Asad chose Zoya merely because he saw Tanveer's true colours?Wouldn't that make Zoya look like a second choice and his love conditional?Don get me wrong, i firmly believe Asad is totally in love with Zoya and irrespective of what happens in the future, will never develop feelings for Tanveer or any other girl for that matter..But Asad is someone who thinks of marriage as a mere formality and doesn't belive that love is a necessity..So it is very much possible for the guy to marry Tanveer without having even an inkling of interest in her..Now what i don what is their marriage getting stopped at the last moment merely because Asad realised Tanveer is not what she seems to be..This would mean that if she was indeed the sweet girl, he would have gone ahead and married her and ruined his and Zoya's life in one stroke..So what i'd love to see is Asad realizing Zoya' worth on his own independent of Tanveer's character and understand that his stuck up ideologies are so not worth holding on to when faced with the prospect of losing Zoya..This would add so much more depth to his character and feelings for Zoya..😳
Am not sure whether am making sense here but i'd love to hear your views😊


That's one of the main reasons I don't like this track, If Tanveer is supposed to be a catalyst to their love story and she really is going to turn negative making Asad realise that outer appearance don't represent your character then him choosing Zoya won't be as impactful as it could be if he were to realise it all on his own. And that's what I really want, I want him to realise without someone else pushing him that 'Tehzeeb' aur 'Tameez' are in your heart and not the clothes you wear but I don't think we are going to get that, Asad Ahmed Khan is the most judgemental person in the earth and he literally has to make a mistake before he realises that he was wrong, so yet again he is going to make a mistake by trusting Tanveer and when she back stabs him then he's going to realise that even though Zoya is modern minded, wears modern clothes and is outspoken, she has more tehzeeb and tameez than Miss Salwar Kameez.

Argh! I'm so frustrated!!!!


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