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Posted: 9 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: Loveforlife



"Let me go Preet... Because if I die..I don't want you to get hurt"

"If you are to die... I'd rather be that dead dried rose left on your Grave..."



Raveena .. you just win my heart every single time with your beautiful words. Yes THIS. This that Preet will be a dried rose o his grave that rizwaan doesnt understand! And doesnt want .. he thinks he can avoid this.. but he can never .. Preet is too much in love with him ..
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Posted: 9 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: Fantasia.



Very very well said jhalak! He is injecting her with slow poison so she develops immunity to it! But why poison? Why not the truth . Bcz he was raised this way. Writers are making me consummed by this man more and more!



For giving truth he needs to have truth in him...but lies n destruction run in him as
His life blood so that's what he gives in the best possible way...one hates rizwan for
The devil in him yet u end up pitying him for he has clay feet like human


I had read once somewhere that even God sometimes makes mistakes
For he has clay feet n that moment hadn't understood it yet with life now u understand
Human failings n falacies
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I have another question in my mind. We always discussed that how Rizwan should come to know about truth which is hidden from him. The loss which changed everything for him was the starting point of lie making its footstep felt in his life. We so desperateky want him to know that what his soul 's true call is. It is said that we get what we seek. Does Rizwan seek truth at all in his life? Did he ever ask his God to show him the mirror through which he can see his real self? I gues thats a bigger question fir me now. What is he seeking ? Relief from pain? Peace of mind? Love? Revenge? Or a refkection showing him his true colors? Thats getting blurred day by day for him and thus every action comes across as detrimental.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#34
I have lot of posts to respond on this thread. Will do so asap. Thanks all fir these insightful posts.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#35
The day Rizwaan had Promised Preet of Beautiful Memories...that day it was Clear...It was not gonna go as He had Expected...

I am still angry on Divorce thing Payal...
Why is he doing all this...Life set karna chahata Preet ki...Aiise..??

He consummates and then hands over Divorce Papers...
Does he know He is insulting Preet and their Rishta...??

I perceived this LoveStory as always Tragic One...bt now It has totally Turned DARK .
His Nafrat Infuriated in him is really Strong...so Strong that LOve is not Conquering it ...

This Show is showing that how If Love does not win over Nafrat ...how that Nafrat destryos everything...
I feel the writers have taken that Route...

The Antagonist Rizwaan is coming to the Forefront...

Edit : I love the way your words Flow...Its like each Para injects some or the other Emotions..
Thank You..!!!
Edited by RollingStones - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: pinkeye

I have another question in my mind. We always discussed that how Rizwan should come to know about truth which is hidden from him. The loss which changed everything for him was the starting point of lie making its footstep felt in his life. We so desperateky want him to know that what his soul 's true call is. It is said that we get what we seek. Does Rizwan seek truth at all in his life? Did he ever ask his God to show him the mirror through which he can see his real self? I gues thats a bigger question fir me now. What is he seeking ? Relief from pain? Peace of mind? Love? Revenge? Or a refkection showing him his true colors? Thats getting blurred day by day for him and thus every action comes across as detrimental.


He doesn't realize that he is missing something when it comes to the truths of his life Payal.. The reason he is so detrimental in his ways is because he BELIEVES all the lies told to him and thus has never felt a doubt .. which in turn never let him ask his God to show him his real self. He believes his real self is to avenge and someone who loves the Hooda Family and Preet. All he is seeking is revenge and this peace of mind that he saved Preet from the pain of his reality. Thats it. He isnt seeking anything more than that .. we as viewers know what went wrong with him thus pray for a divine intervention. Rizwaan on the other hand has always been content with whatever he is told .. he is brainwashed.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Fantasia.



<font size="2">He doesn't realize that he is missing something when it comes to the truths of his life Payal.. The reason he is so detrimental in his ways is because he BELIEVES all the lies told to him and thus has never felt a doubt .. which in turn never let him ask his God to show him his real self. He believes his real self is to avenge and someone who loves the Hooda Family and Preet. All he is seeking is revenge and this peace of mind that he saved Preet from the pain of his reality. Thats it. He isnt seeking anything more than that .. we as viewers know what went wrong with him thus pray for a divine intervention. Rizwaan on the other hand has always been content with whatever he is told .. he is brainwashed.</font>



In other words brainwashing has wiped off his sense of structural thinking altigether. He is that monster in action who is now on rampage and kill every one on his path because he feels he is uncomfortable with all the happenings?isnt that selfish? If he was selfish always then whupy did he bother to make Hooda's life better? Does that mean Rizwan is nothing but a deal soul who is programmed to act like a robot?? If we admit this, then it makes him mindkess too having no individuality which us not true atkeast if we go by his character skectch. I know his maqsad is his revenge. Yes he never wanted to see his true self as he feels its too dark inside . But then why did he entwine another 's fate with him knowingly?? He went ahead with the marriage decision without his nurturer's permission. At that pointbof time he cheated his mission too, he forgot abput his mission when love and affection was showered on him? So if it is so, how is it possibke that he knws what he is seeking? Isnt that contradictiey? He is being disloyal to both the parties imo and that makes him dishonest to each and every person in his life. From Baba to Preet. This contradiction makes his character now look like a failure fir whom I have no pity also.he was not a kaabil sipahi, true terrorist but atleast was a kaabil pati. Now he is not even that. A man after sharing intimacy with a woman throws divorce paper on her face and indirectly accuses her look immoral . He is someone who does not know what he is upto and I do not like that a bit. I still have issues with him dragging shergill into this. 😡 all that I want for this troubled man is a closure which he desperately needs. His wounds are open fir too long, now it has started to decompose him.

Once he said yeh mission hume Aaonon ki aur aapne ki qurbani dena sikhata hai. He sacruficed his real aapna Preet by torturing her soul and now its ttime he sacrifices himself too and fullfill the oath taken fir the mission. That will make him kaabil sipahi atleast.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: RollingStones

The day Rizwaan had Promised Preet of Beautiful Memories...that day it was Clear...It was not gonna go as He had Expected...


I am still angry on Divorce thing Payal...
Why is he doing all this...Life set karna chahata Preet ki...Aiise..??

He consummates and then hands over Divorce Papers...
Does he know He is insulting Preet and their Rishta...??

I perceived this LoveStory as always Tragic One...bt now It has totally Turned DARK .
His Nafrat Infuriated in him is really Strong...so Strong that LOve is not Conquering it ...

This Show is showing that how If Love does not win over Nafrat ...how that Nafrat destryos everything...
I feel the writers have taken that Route...

The Antagonist Rizwaan is coming to the Forefront...

Edit : I love the way your words Flow...Its like each Para injects some or the other Emotions..
Thank You..!!!



First of all thank you. 😛

More than the divorce thing which got me angry -his effort to dictate Preet when he has already decided he wants freedom from her. If this is his way to set her future then I want Preet to hit back and make one thing very clear to him that the moment he gave those papers he has lost all the rights of a spouse. It should not be his concern how she should restart. His story in her journey ends there. I cant imagine the woman' s trauma who is being told that intimate moments were biggest mistake, who gets divorce papers as birthday gift and who gets refused by her husband as he is incapable of loving her after giving it all. I dont know what is woth Rizwan's mind and what the hell is he thinking or he is eventhinking or not! 💔 I dont know for whom should I pray! I want both of them to get rid of this agony and pain.

Coming to your ladt line, you think the writer has changed the basic theme altogether now? How hatred destroys everything dies not need a Balaji soap imo , its every where around us. The current state of the world is burning example o that. So why would they want to reflect that all of a sudden? Even if that is being shown then I hope it also shows harshest punishment being served to the guilty too. Then it will be meaningful.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: pinkeye



In other words brainwashing has wiped off his sense of structural thinking altigether. He is that monster in action who is now on rampage and kill every one on his path because he feels he is uncomfortable with all the happenings?isnt that selfish? If he was selfish always then whupy did he bother to make Hooda's life better? Does that mean Rizwan is nothing but a deal soul who is programmed to act like a robot?? If we admit this, then it makes him mindkess too having no individuality which us not true atkeast if we go by his character skectch. I know his maqsad is his revenge. Yes he never wanted to see his true self as he feels its too dark inside . But then why did he entwine another 's fate with him knowingly?? He went ahead with the marriage decision without his nurturer's permission. At that pointbof time he cheated his mission too, he forgot abput his mission when love and affection was showered on him? So if it is so, how is it possibke that he knws what he is seeking? Isnt that contradictiey? He is being disloyal to both the parties imo and that makes him dishonest to each and every person in his life. From Baba to Preet. This contradiction makes his character now look like a failure fir whom I have no pity also.he was not a kaabil sipahi, true terrorist but atleast was a kaabil pati. Now he is not even that. A man after sharing intimacy with a woman throws divorce paper on her face and indirectly accuses her look immoral . He is someone who does not know what he is upto and I do not like that a bit. I still have issues with him dragging shergill into this. 😡 all that I want for this troubled man is a closure which he desperately needs. His wounds are open fir too long, now it has started to decompose him.

Once he said yeh mission hume Aaonon ki aur aapne ki qurbani dena sikhata hai. He sacruficed his real aapna Preet by torturing her soul and now its ttime he sacrifices himself too and fullfill the oath taken fir the mission. That will make him kaabil sipahi atleast.


Yes. Yes payal. He cheated his mission. He cheated Preet. He cheated EVERY single person who trusted on him .. he wasnt made to avenge, but always believed that he was due to his brain washing, so marrying Preet, being the ideal father, tht was where his sub conscious took over. That free easy time where there was no pressure, he let his sub conscious take over .. which in itself is failure. and now when his super ego is back in control, all those mistakes committed in trance have started to haunt him and he is quickly closing every thing.

That IS his gooddamn tragic flaw payal .. he could never be true to anything in his life. He was a terrorist. He isnt suppose to feel for Preet. why is he even CONSIDERING her pain? why is he taking so many measures, right or wrong thats another debate, but he is taking measures for Preet, which are keeping him distracted .. why is he doing it? Because of a tragic flaw that doesnt let him be completely Rizwaan Ahmed Khan the terrorist, or Ishaan Hooda the perfect husband/son/father.

And one more thing, he thinks no pain is enough. A man living all his life in pain is kind of ALRIGHT by distributing pain. Have you ever noticed, he says, ye dard de dn , wo dard de dn .. dard diya hai .. its like .. all his conversations are based on pain. He justifies pain. Giving and enduring. He feels enduring pain is alright .. to the extent that even if he is protecting someone from pain, then the substitute offered is also pain.

Rizwaan Ahmed Khan remained a failure payal .. he wanted to love and be nurtured but no one allowed him to .. he never wanted to avenge but was pushed too .. he never wanted to betray but he had too .. and now .. he didnt want to leave but he has too .. and he will do whatever his dark pain enduring mind tells him to do .. he isn't thinking. He needs to leave.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Great discussions guys!! 👏

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