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Samanalyse thumbnail
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Posted: 13 years ago
The chorus of this song has become such a cliche that I tend to forget how beautiful the verse lyrics are, and how very true. I think they suit AarYa to a tee at this moment, "the dhuaa before the aag..."😳

Do dil mil rahe hai, magar chupke chupke
Sab ko ho rahi hai, haan sab ko ho rahi hai
Khabar chupke chupke, ho

Saanson mein badi beqaraari
Aankhon mein kayi rat jage
Kabhi kahin lag jaaye dil to
Kahin phir dil naa lage
Apna dil main zara thaam loon
Jadoo ka main isse naam doon
(that's us viewers talking! 😆)
Jadoo kar raha hai, jadoo kar raha hai
Asar chupke chupke
Do dil mil rahe hai, magar chupke chupke

Aise bhole bankar hai baithe
Jaise koi baat nahin
Sab kuch nazar aa raha hai
Din hai yeh raat nahin
Kya hai kuch bhi nahin hai agar
Honton pe hai khamoshi magar
Baatein kar rahi hai, baatein kar rahi hai
Nazar chupke chupke
Do dil mil rahe hai, magar chupke chupke

Kahin aag lagne se pehle
Uthtaa hai aisa dhuaan
Jaisa hai idhar ka nazaara, oh
Vaisa hi udhar ka samaa
Dil mein kaisi kasak si jagi
Dono jaanib barabar lagi
Dekho to idhar se, dekho to idhar se
Udhar chupke chupke
Do dil mil rahe hai, magar chupke chupke
Edited by Samanalyse - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
@Kirthi & Samana: Nod, nod to your thoughts!!! Both Yash and Palak never had their closure. If today Aarti seems so carefree and ready to take on the devil itself if it appeared, it's because she has had hers. Her heart is no more burdened. She has no reasons to look back anymore. On the contrary, Yash and Palak need a distraction badly...an incentive that'll absolve them off their respective guilts and bring to a conclusion this tug of war with the past. I feel they are ready to let go...but for some reasons they are hanging on for each other. Palak is not letting go because she sees Yash pining for her mother...and Yash can't let go because he thinks only Arpita was a good mother and no one else can take her place howsoevermuch they try. Palak needs to have her mother walk back in with the cake...and once Palak accepts Aarti, Yash will realize that there is no need anymore to wish for Arpita to come back. With his kids safe and secure under Aarti's love and care, he will breathe easy...cause somewhere there's that additional guilt that he separated Palak/Payal from their mother. Now, I think I went tangent...Did I make sense?😕
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Posted: 13 years ago
Punar VivaahAccording to Shobhaji, Aarti has taken a wrong decision to change herself to Arpita. Do you feel the same?
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Posted: 13 years ago
@Indu: Not at all a tangent! You make perfect sense. In many ways Yash and Palak are both holding on to Arpita for each other, when they are both ready to let go for each other too. I think part of the reason Palak keeps her mother alive is because it brings her close to her father. He is never so demonstrative as when Arpita is in the question. She needs to understand that he is happy when she is happy and Yash needs to understand that Palak's happiness lies squarely in his hands. He needs to communicate to her that they will be no less close, emotionally, if Palak lets Arpita become a memory and lives her life in the present, not waiting for the mother that will never come. I think letting go will be a lot easier when both of them come to the realisation that they are not hurting the other by doing it...

Additionally, they can help each other let go by being the reason for it. I mean to say, Yash can try to let go for Palak's happiness in the present and Palak can let go so Yash can be happy with Aaarti. It is often easier to sacrifice for others than let something go yourself. Maybe that is how Aarti is trying to set it up...
Edited by Samanalyse - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
@Indu :I feel Yash uses this theory of "Only Arpita is best mom for PayPal" as a safe excuse to forcibly hold onto Arpita's memories out of his guilt ...He does know Aarti can b an equally good mother ..he did tell Pankaj that Aarti can b a good mother as Aarti only and need not become Arpita ..remember 😉...so when he tells Arpita's photo that only u can handle PayPal . I feel its his inner guilt speaking
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Posted: 13 years ago
@samana
oyee yaar... itz my wish ki they use this song on them...
any one who is good at making a VM plzzz itz a big req to u guys make a vm 4 me on this song... pretty plzzz
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: jyoti06

@Indu :I feel Yash uses this theory of "Only Arpita is best mom for PayPal" as a safe excuse to forcibly hold onto Arpita's memories out of his guilt ...He does know Aarti can b an equally good mother ..he did tell Pankaj that Aarti can b a good mother as Aarti only and need not become Arpita ..remember 😉...so when he tells Arpita's photo that only u can handle PayPal . I feel its his inner guilt speaking


I think Yash's thought that Arpita can only handle PayPal comes when they are hurt

He told that when the room decor was changed and that too by Arati, he know that Arati did that with good intention but what he don't know is how to console PayPal when they are sad, so what he does is he will also join with them in the mourning than bringing them out.

Only a third person can help them out, like Yash did see things differently in case of Arati - Ansh case, Arati is seeing thigs diffrently in Yash- Palak case.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: jyoti06

@Indu :I feel Yash uses this theory of "Only Arpita is best mom for PayPal" as a safe excuse to forcibly hold onto Arpita's memories out of his guilt ...He does know Aarti can b an equally good mother ..he did tell Pankaj that Aarti can b a good mother as Aarti only and need not become Arpita ..remember 😉...so when he tells Arpita's photo that only u can handle PayPal . I feel its his inner guilt speaking


boecuse in a way getting attracted to her...😊. it may be because of her taking care of his children or may be he is attracted physically...😉😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
@Samana: Exactly...you put it much better. Each has to realize that Aarti is good for the other and that the other is safe and happy with her. Both are scared that if they let go off each other's hand in sadness, then the other will be left alone in an emotional vacuum. They are holding on to Arpita by holding on to each other, because that is when they feel closest to each other. Palak doesn't seem to have any problem with Aarti, the wife...she never objected to her occupying the room and even asked Yash that once (before Ansh's pin trick) whether he would kiss her. She only objects to calling Aarti as her mother...and Yash only notices that without dwelling into the reason.


@Jyo: For some reason Yash is not fully able to hand over the complete baton of motherhood to Aarti. He trusts Aarti as mother but doesn't trust her to have those genuine feelings that only a real mother can have...like she herself has for Ansh. He is fine with Mom Aarti, the caregiver, but he can't see Aarti as having any emotional connect with his daughters...that's why he made that remark. Just as Aarti was sure that when the time comes, only she as Ansh's mother will be willing to trade her life with his (during the rescue)...and Yash proved her wrong. It's the same case in reverse now. He can't imagine Aarti going the whole way as a mother. Once Yash sees the extent to which Aarti can go to get the smile back on Palak's face, he'll realize that Aarti has done what only Arpita could do.
Edited by InduG64 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
Thank you all for such wonderful analyses and insights into situations.
I agree with most points.
But I believe that when Yash says Palak does not want to celebrate her birthday, he is taking the easy way out for himself. He is actually being selfish. He is trying to to have the easiest life he can, where he can be left all alone to wallow in in his Arpitatata land. Because if he comes out of Arpita land to real life, he will have to accept that Palak is very unhappy. I still say bad Yash. He, in his selfishness, is not letting his daughter heal. Nor is he seeing how deep her hurt and pain goes, and how it affects her life, at home, at school, etc. Because if he sees how badly damaged his daughter is he would have to actually go out and find solutions. And on this journey of a solution to heal his daughter, he would have to deal with his feelings of losing Arpita too.
When he says Palak herself does not want to celebrate her birthday, he refuses to see that he himself is perpetuating his daughter's pain by how he acts at this time of year. Actually the whole year through, as he is constantly talking to Arpi's pictures I front of the girls. And Palak hears that "I lost you" mantra, and feels guilt and anger. The anger is directed at herself, so of course she doesn't want to celebrate her birthday.
So i still say, bad Yash.
And its true, Yash has never sat down with his girls and told them that Arti is their new mother, not mum, or that they should listen to her, etc, the way it has been mentioned on this board often that Art did with Ansh. So he has never gone out of his way to make the lives of his daughters and Arti easier at all. Without such a huge tragedy as Palak losing her own mum on her birthday being a factor to cope with.
Yash goes around with his blinkers on seeing what he wants to see. It has often been said on this thread how conscious he is of Arti's feelings. I can understand the inital shock blinding him to Palak's feelings. But as time has gone on, he has not moved on from the feelings of early days, and will not see or does not want to see Palak's feeling change either.
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