9/5/ Dragon Club: Missing the Point

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tarantulla_p

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Posted: 13 years ago

#91

Originally posted by: Kshiti_Kunal

and i think that is what is pushing Palak to go meaner and witchier! so when she had him punished by someone else, she was scot free. Then she pulled the pee trick in school and all she got was Ansh making a face at her. no real warning by Dad or anyone she holds in high regards. When they laughed at Ansh the other day when G3 was shouting at him, G3 smiled back as if that was funny.
and now if Aarti sides with the kids, they will go for more and Ansh will be scared all the time.

I want Yash to sit down with his daughters and lecture them instead of lecturing Aarti all the time.
He should tell them in no uncertain terms that Ansh IS part of their family now and should be cared for and that any harm done to him, physical or mental will not be tolerated.
I want him to push his daughters in front of everyone to say sorry for their behavior just the way Aarti did with Ansh. They should be made aware of what the consequences of their actions could be.

want to see G3's face. So the other day she said she would have punished PayPal similarly. I want a proof 😉

See the act in bold was what was missing all along. Yash being the man into whose house and life Aarti and Ansh came into did not introduce them to his kids at all. Never has he said to his kids that this is your brother, show him around, share all your things with him. Or, this is your new mom, listen to her , dont trouble her. He has expected the kids to figure these out while he could pretend this was not happening to him. He is not aware how cruel his family is to Aarti. He is a Scindhia, he is looking at her , not back at his family. Now he will.

Even when Gayatri locked Ansh up in the room, Gayatri blatantly lied to his face that Ansh deserved the punishment, not that she hounded him over what he did to Yash. No body has been honest with Yash and he does not know any of them well enough to know they have been lying all along. This incident happened when no one could lie about and thats why its a huge eye opener for the entire family.

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Mallika113

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Posted: 13 years ago

#92

I think Ansh will be perfectly safe 😊 This is to shake up Yash and bring him to see Aarti's side too. When that boy was traumatized by the mean girls, especially Palak, Yash turns a blind eye ! He does not even talk to the girls about being nice to their brother. Palak must take after that bua ji , she is so vindictive and manipulative ! All the truth would come out about the girls too when Ansh returns.

Samanalyse and Skanda, great analysis from you ladies 👏 Agree with all you said !

Krats looks magnificent in majenta and Gurmeet looked royal in red 😃 Krats was brilliant in the final scene when she falls to the floor , her expressions were totally heart breaking ! Kudos to the best mumma , papa Yash and beta Ansh for a fabulous job 👏

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tarantulla_p

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Posted: 13 years ago

#93

Originally posted by: Allbut1
@Aparna: I am really loving the scenario you have conjured up! I am sure this whole fiasco is not going to last very long, because past experience have shown us that the CVs have the talent to cover miles in one episode (especially in the episodes ending the week) without giving it a cluttered feeling! Just last week we got two episodes that left us all reeling at how much ground they covered in 20-22 minutes, so I am sure this matter will reach it's resolution by Friday! The Mittals are good with ending a track the very week that they started it and I really, really hope that this is no exception because I really can't swallow the idea of Ansh being kidnapped! This situation was meant to be an eye opener for Yash and Aarti and just a few hours of him missing will do the trick no need to make a full fledged angst track out of this!

Yep, no point in stretching the drama out. I think Aarti will prove finally to the entire family what a consummate MOM she is - no matter who the child and all her protectiveness of Ansh was brought on by the unfairness of the Scindhia household. If no one else, Yash needs to see the latter and Gayatri the former.

When Aarti sees Yash fighting for Ansh, she will finally find another person who she can trust with Ansh. All will be well soon 😊

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Mansi

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Posted: 13 years ago

#94

@Samana: I've made sure I give you full marks in my take today - for your prophetic words yesterday about how Yash is going to rue his high-handedness very soon.

In fact it looks like it was all too soon?

But Samana, as you've also mentioned in your take, I am appalled at the way this Payal and Palak are getting away with such malicious nonsense? They seem at first to be just two little girls, but on closer examination it looks like they've lived in a household ironically so full of people that there was no one really to watch them closely.

They've developed into two little sneaks getting their grandmother's atention through carrying tales. They've got bad chits from the school principal on their anti-social behaviour. And now all this?

Yash needs to be at least half as attentive to them as Aarti is over Ansh if he is to spot the evil streak growing slowly but surely in his daughters. They sorely need some straightening!

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jikky_84

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Posted: 13 years ago

#95

@Samana, wonderful analysis.

Don't beat me, but I would like to take a middle stand today.

What Yash did may not be correct but was not entirely wrong. He genuinely wanted the wellbeing and better future of Ansh. I don't thing he did wrong by not telling PayPal to not tease Ansh, if he did, payPal would have been more angry with Ansh that their father took his side. Yash was never witness of how PayPal manipulate like G3. No one told him.

I am not saying that PayPal are right, they are entirely wrong today and should definitely get an earful from Yash. But I don't think they might have understood the outcome of their action. They wanted to scare Ansh as they don't like him, but wouldn't have that thought that he will go missing. This was almost like the pin fiasco where Ansh wanted to hurt Yash intentionally but didn't know about the outcome.

Here when PayPal did whatever had more worse outcome because, they played it on a kid and not an adult.

Aati's concern and protectiveness for Ansh is good. But somewhere what Yash told is true, may be not completely. He she will keep Ansh to herself, he will never become a Scindiya and will always remain as Dubeys.

Today, both yash and Arati were wrong. They didn't properly ask Ansh why he didn't want to go to school. If asked, I think he would have told them the real reason because when asked yesterday, he gave the right reason to Yash.

I know you are really angry at Yash, but if this one act of Yash will be misinterpreted and made to feel much more guilty than needed by Arati, there is a chance that he may back off from being the father of Ansh and hat will do no good.

Today by the end of episode, we could see enough guilt and remorse on Yash. And when they will get Ansh back, they should tactically deal with him and not to scare him more and also I don't want Arati to yell at Yash after this in front of ansh but she can very much shout at him when they are alone.

I want this incidence, by seeing Arati break down like this should make Yash to come more closer to them emotionally and care, protect and support them more. If he is made feel that the decision he took for Ansh was completely wrong, then he will not be able to do the role of father properly. he should be made aware of things properly by Arati.

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Mansi

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Posted: 13 years ago

#96

@Jyoti: I agree with your take that this whole crisis over Ansh is a wake up call for Yash and Aarti.

But Jyoti, it is also a good wakeup call for the whole Scindia clan. They have all been pushing Aarti and Ansh so hard and so mercilessly to integrate into their ways and their family, that they have now all landed in a royal mess!

I hope that this aissue reduces Gayatri's "ghamandi" behaviour with Aarti,and today I saw in the Casanova a slight sympathy for Aarti!

The family needed this jolt to show them that they are not right all the time, and Aarti's feelings and instincts also have to be considered. Not just about Ansh but even about PayPal?

At least after this crisis I hope Aarti will be able to speak up and insist on having her way, and that Gayatri at least will stop taunting Aarti about her obsession for Ansh. Everybody in this family needs to tone down their behaviours ... less pride, less obsession, less ego, less fault-finding ...

Edited by skanda12 - 13 years ago

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Gagori Chatterjee

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Posted: 13 years ago

#97

@Samana :Absolutely fabulous take 👏 and yup u were right , Yash is in for a grt showdown and also a reality chk from Aarti now 😆.,..he was flying high in the air with his ego and so called set of rules ...finally he falls flat 😆...I feel even in this incident ,if PayPal r responsible ,then he should try to self-analyse whats actually going wrong with his parenting methods 🤔..he forcefully sends Ansh to school which results in Ansh missing now ...he completely ignores the way PayPal makes faces to other kids which results in both getting involved in plotting and scheaming at such young age ...so something is definitely wrong with his parenting methods then 🤔..so like I said Yash finally got a wake up call here ,.,

From here on Yash should not change his ways completely because he was not totally wrong in asking Aarti to leave Ansh's hand and let him walk on his own ...what he needs is to strike a proper balance among all 3 kids and take joint decisions with his wife 😳

@Mansi :Lovely suggestions and valid questions 👏👏...I feel major problem with Yash-Aarti is that when one is talking ,other is only listening and vice-versa ...they need to hv a balanced communication ..both needs to talk and listen together and not just do one thing at a time ..like today only Yash went on talking and Aarti kept listening , yesterday Aarti kept on talking about motherly love and Yash was listening ...they need to communicate together ...and this is the time ,communication as husband-wife on equal grounds is needed ..

Coming to your question about whether Scindia family wants to achieve too many things too son ..I feel yes ...today also Yash was like when Ansh will grow up ,he will thank us 😕...for god sake he is just a 6-7 yrs old kid , and here Yash is thinking of what he will do after 15-20 yrs ?? 😕😆..so basically Scindia family r snatching away the innocence and liveliness of a kid in the process of achieving too much too soon ..PayPal lost the innocence already and we can see the girls plotting like their grandma and Ansh is slowly loosing his kid wala charm by going in depression out of fear ...Hopefully after this incident Yash will realise this main problem 🤔

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Kshiti

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Posted: 13 years ago

#98

Originally posted by: tarantulla_p

See the act in bold was what was missing all along. Yash being the man into whose house and life Aarti and Ansh came into did not introduce them to his kids at all. Never has he said to his kids that this is your brother, show him around, share all your things with him. Or, this is your new mom, listen to her , dont trouble her. He has expected the kids to figure these out while he could pretend this was not happening to him. He is not aware how cruel his family is to Aarti. He is a Scindhia, he is looking at her , not back at his family. Now he will.

Even when Gayatri locked Ansh up in the room, Gayatri blatantly lied to his face that Ansh deserved the punishment, not that she hounded him over what he did to Yash. No body has been honest with Yash and he does not know any of them well enough to know they have been lying all along. This incident happened when no one could lie about and thats why its a huge eye opener for the entire family.

and thats what my fear is! that it should be an eye opener for entire family.

For both Yash and Aarti should realise the influence that elders have on the kids. Whether its Bua telling girls how a step mom will always be a step mom or G3 encouraging their rude behavior with Ansh.

They should realise that its not just Yash and PayPal who need to accept Ansh as their own BUT the entire family. G3 should not be partial to her own granddaughters and Pa scindiya should not say that Yash needs a son to cope the old age. he already has one. ofcourse all this can happen so soon and pigs might fly 😉

but i want them to figure out the expanse of the problem. Its not an individual, its the entire family that needs an earful from Yash that Ansh is HIS son and should be treated like one. 😊

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Gagori Chatterjee

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Posted: 13 years ago

#99

Originally posted by: DMKJ_VB
jyoti.i absolutely agree with everything u said. I pretty much said the same.
But one thing, i don't think we can say that yash is overlooking Palak's faults becoz he really has no idea what she is planning or what she did to ansh. all he knew was she teased ansh.and he told ansh to tease her back which proved he did not approve of her behaviour, and even palak got that. I feel, his real fault is he is not paying attention to what his girls feel about this wedding and ansh...or i should say, he knows they don't like him, but he doesn't realize the graveness of the situation.I think he is fine with Ansh.he isn't doing all this becoz he thinks ansh needs manners.he is doing it for his good future.i don't think he sent ansh to another school so that he got better manners, he wanted him to get the same facilities as his own daughters, so regarding ansh- he is fine. But he is not paying enough attention to his daughters, esp palak...he needs to see how conniving she has become, and he can only do it when he spends enough time with her and observes her...becoz no matter how hard he tries for ansh, his neglect towards his own daughter's feelings is ultimately harming Ansh!

So thats the fault i find with yash.

Also, aarti needs to stop behaving like she is the only one who loves ansh.

and both need to do this soon.

In that whole teasing game what really happened was Palak and Payal felt their father is fine with this whole teasing thing ...So the problem is when it comes to Ansh ,we see he is quick to teach him what is right and what is wrong like the table manners and many such things but when it comes to PayPal , he easily ignores these issues like their teasing habbits

He feels PayPal got perfect parenting from his family but Ansh lacks the perfection ...this is his big misconception which might get cleared after this Ansh incident if at all they find out PayPal r responsible for it 🤔

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jikky_84

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Posted: 13 years ago

#100

Originally posted by: skanda12

What I feel is, if Aarti was not generally so overfussy and preoccupied so much about Ansh, the family - and especially Yash - would take her seriously when she does make one or two critical points about Ansh. But because Aarti is constantly fussing over Ansh, the family - and Yash - are tending to take her sentiments and opinions as "typical"... as the same thing she does all the time! It's like nobody took seriously the boy who was crying "Wolf" all the time, when a real wolf did come!

@ Manasi, awesome analysis...absolutely loved it.

The lines in bold are absolutely right.

Yes, Arati's over protectiveness and obsession all the time has made its value less. Today, when Ansh was really scared, no one understood that because, that is the way she behave every time.

I am only scared of Arati's reaction, after they find Ansh. She should not tell something harsh to Yash which will make him back off from being the father of Ansh. Today for the first time he asked Arti to let him be the father of Ansh and acknowledged her as PayPal's mother vocally.

They both need to sit and talk properly, more Arati now as Yash is talking too much now a days.

Today I noticed one more thing that Yash want to keep the things between them with in themselves and not like any one's interference, some thing Arati till now haven't noticed but should at the earliest.

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